G27 Release Date ?
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Yep, if anyone who has picked up both wheels would like to write up something fairly comprehensive, I'd love to make an article out of it for the News blog on the front page of the site. If you're interested, let me know!We're dying for a GTPer's review of the G27 here! Would be awesome if any of you could write one up.
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First thing I don't like about G27 is that there is no way to override the H-Shifter in Prologue.
No matter what you do, there is no way you can use sequential-paddles.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong, or there is some magic button-assign combination I haven't tried, but I just can't manage to override the H.
And it pretty much makes me angry about G27.
However, everything works just fine in Shift, so it is obviusely just a software-issue.
However, lack of touring-sequential shift is a big down for me personaly because I like to drive that way in 99% of my driving.
On the other hand, H-Shifter unit is now more precise, the gears actually click on their positions and it is far more improved than one on G25.
New dual-motors in the wheel are almost silent, actuall smoothness of steering is far greater than on G25, overall build quaility is second-to-none and it is a great wheel for everyone who can live without touring-sequential shifter.
Sadly I'm not the one.
I will stick to my G25 for GT5 because there is no way I will get rid of my touring-shifter. Ever.
Also notice that difference between pedals are almost non-existant in terms of feel of force. However, heel-toe drivers will certanly appriciate the new wider position of accleration-brake pedals.
Does this count as a review?
No matter what you do, there is no way you can use sequential-paddles.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong, or there is some magic button-assign combination I haven't tried, but I just can't manage to override the H.
And it pretty much makes me angry about G27.
However, everything works just fine in Shift, so it is obviusely just a software-issue.
However, lack of touring-sequential shift is a big down for me personaly because I like to drive that way in 99% of my driving.
On the other hand, H-Shifter unit is now more precise, the gears actually click on their positions and it is far more improved than one on G25.
New dual-motors in the wheel are almost silent, actuall smoothness of steering is far greater than on G25, overall build quaility is second-to-none and it is a great wheel for everyone who can live without touring-sequential shifter.
Sadly I'm not the one.
I will stick to my G25 for GT5 because there is no way I will get rid of my touring-shifter. Ever.
Also notice that difference between pedals are almost non-existant in terms of feel of force. However, heel-toe drivers will certanly appriciate the new wider position of accleration-brake pedals.
Does this count as a review?
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I have had a few days to get used to driving with a wheel. Truthfully, its all Ive done besides work and sleep since Monday around 6. While I cant write up a comparison between the two wheels, I can offer some insight into the G27.
When I originally made the decision to get a Logitech wheel, I was concerned about 1 part; the h-pattern shifter. I don't know what Im comparing this to but I can say that the shifter is one of the best parts of the G27. It centers well and as Amar said above, it shifts IN to gear.
The motors inside the wheel are quiet. I'd say almost silent. The gears are smooth and also near-silent. All of the components are of high quality. If NFS:Shift allowed button reassignment, I would be using the extra buttons on the wheel (well, I'd like to think I would use the buttons but Im concentrating on the road, so I don't know about that one
When I originally made the decision to get a Logitech wheel, I was concerned about 1 part; the h-pattern shifter. I don't know what Im comparing this to but I can say that the shifter is one of the best parts of the G27. It centers well and as Amar said above, it shifts IN to gear.
The motors inside the wheel are quiet. I'd say almost silent. The gears are smooth and also near-silent. All of the components are of high quality. If NFS:Shift allowed button reassignment, I would be using the extra buttons on the wheel (well, I'd like to think I would use the buttons but Im concentrating on the road, so I don't know about that one
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Would it be possible to hook up the G25 shifter to the G27 wheel to use the sequential?First thing I don't like about G27 is that there is no way to override the H-Shifter in Prologue.
No matter what you do, there is no way you can use sequential-paddles.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong, or there is some magic button-assign combination I haven't tried, but I just can't manage to override the H.
And it pretty much makes me angry about G27.
However, everything works just fine in Shift, so it is obviusely just a software-issue.
However, lack of touring-sequential shift is a big down for me personaly because I like to drive that way in 99% of my driving.
On the other hand, H-Shifter unit is now more precise, the gears actually click on their positions and it is far more improved than one on G25.
New dual-motors in the wheel are almost silent, actuall smoothness of steering is far greater than on G25, overall build quaility is second-to-none and it is a great wheel for everyone who can live without touring-sequential shifter.
Sadly I'm not the one.
I will stick to my G25 for GT5 because there is no way I will get rid of my touring-shifter. Ever.
Also notice that difference between pedals are almost non-existant in terms of feel of force. However, heel-toe drivers will certanly appriciate the new wider position of accleration-brake pedals.
Does this count as a review?
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I watched the video review of the G27 this morning posted here on GTP. What a terrible review 👎 (The reviewers, not the product)
They must mention 5 times that the wheel has "more buttons" on it now. No mention of what they do ? Are they programable like L2 and R2 are on the G25 ? Are they just decoration ? Does one of them have the capability to act as the PS button ? Most existing games would not be programed for including them in button assignments, so what good are they ?
They also don't mention the lack of available sequential shifter as a drawback, but only that it's elimination makes possible the improvement for the self centering in the gated H pattern shifter. Just not a very inclusive review if you ask me. I'm with amar on the importance of having the sequential shifter. The issue with H pattern shifting in Prologue is a HUGE compromise 👎
The wheel does look like it is a bit thicker than the G25. The reviewer did say that he thought it was softer and the other reviewer commented that he preferred the firmness of the G25 wheel.
The RPM indicating lights on the wheel are so far below your field of view that they are almost useless as well, as described by one of the reviewers.
So it seems, the only upgrade over the G25 would be the helical gears which naturally are quieter and the ability to space the pedal plates a bit to either side.
It certainly doesn't justify the huge increase in cost to me. Maybe I'll pick up one of the discounted G25's as a back up spare, should my existing 2 1/2 year old G25 fail someday
They must mention 5 times that the wheel has "more buttons" on it now. No mention of what they do ? Are they programable like L2 and R2 are on the G25 ? Are they just decoration ? Does one of them have the capability to act as the PS button ? Most existing games would not be programed for including them in button assignments, so what good are they ?
They also don't mention the lack of available sequential shifter as a drawback, but only that it's elimination makes possible the improvement for the self centering in the gated H pattern shifter. Just not a very inclusive review if you ask me. I'm with amar on the importance of having the sequential shifter. The issue with H pattern shifting in Prologue is a HUGE compromise 👎
The wheel does look like it is a bit thicker than the G25. The reviewer did say that he thought it was softer and the other reviewer commented that he preferred the firmness of the G25 wheel.
The RPM indicating lights on the wheel are so far below your field of view that they are almost useless as well, as described by one of the reviewers.
So it seems, the only upgrade over the G25 would be the helical gears which naturally are quieter and the ability to space the pedal plates a bit to either side.
It certainly doesn't justify the huge increase in cost to me. Maybe I'll pick up one of the discounted G25's as a back up spare, should my existing 2 1/2 year old G25 fail someday
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The funny thing about all this, is that all this is being compared against the G25, which I must say it still is the best choice. Yes the G27 has more buttons, cheap quality I might add, the LED light indicator, horrible and they remove the sequential shifter?!? Whattaaa???? Still charging $300 dollars?? That's stupid and if you guys look at some videos, the noise the wheel makes is even louder than before. Logitech has a lot to catch up now, if only Fanatec would ship their stuff quicker. I have a G25 as of now but soon I will be getting the new Turbo S wheel compatible with PC/Xbox360/PS3 and all for the same price and better quality and much much cooler features. Oh may I add, they make their stuff compatible too with Logitech stuff, now talk about confidence my friend.
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That's OK, there are some good reviews out there already which I do believe cover everything - but the interest just doesn't seem to be there and I can understand why (the sequential shifter is a deal-breaker for me too, Amar). Don't worry about it.
If someone does have both wheels could you see if the shifter for the G25 will work on the G27 for both the PS3 and a PC. If the shifter does:idea:
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Some of the reviews, and IIRC Logitech have already said it isn't compatible.
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I have a question to those who have seen reviews or even has the G27 (does anybody yet?)... Is the sequential shift on the G25 really seem that important? Do most people use it a lot? I have never owned a wheel and have no idea if it would make a difference.
Also, I care about the noise. Is the G27's less noise worth paying the extra money? I could care less about the LEDs and I'm sure I could always use more buttons. Tell me what you think.
I probably won't be getting a wheel until AFTER GT5 comes out, or if I can find a really good sale I'll get one before. I hope the answers to these questions will help me pick the best one.
Also, I care about the noise. Is the G27's less noise worth paying the extra money? I could care less about the LEDs and I'm sure I could always use more buttons. Tell me what you think.
I probably won't be getting a wheel until AFTER GT5 comes out, or if I can find a really good sale I'll get one before. I hope the answers to these questions will help me pick the best one.
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I have owned every Logitech wheel they've ever made. While I consider them to be the best in the market, most have "worn out" in about 2 years of above average use. (micro switches in the paddle shifters and power supply internal connections). However, the G25 is built much more robustly and has served me well for over 2.5 years without so much as a hint of an issue. I love it and wouldn't hesitate to buy another, especially at the reduced price.
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Thank you very much for that. I think if I get a wheel I'll get the g25 as it seems like a better deal for the money... As long as it goes down substantially as I expect it to. To me $300 is far too much just to add a little realism, as I don't get too into my games.
Edit: I noticed in your post that you were speaking of the paddle shifters as the sequential shifters... The g27 has paddle shifters still (even better ones). The sequential I'm speaking of is where it transforms the h-pattern to sequential up-and-down shifting. The g27 does not have this feature and I was wondering if people thought it was important.
Edit: I noticed in your post that you were speaking of the paddle shifters as the sequential shifters... The g27 has paddle shifters still (even better ones). The sequential I'm speaking of is where it transforms the h-pattern to sequential up-and-down shifting. The g27 does not have this feature and I was wondering if people thought it was important.
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I guess you may have mis-understood me
I was not speaking of the paddle shifters as the sequential shifter. I said that I use the paddle shifters, which are identical on the G25 as they are on the G27 by the way, for driving cars that have paddle shifters in real life. There is NO IMPROVEMENT in the paddle shifters of the G27 over the G25.I use the sequential shifter (as you described) for driving most racing sedans since that is the type of shift mechanism they use. It is true that the G27 does not have this function and it is an important function as far as I am concerned.
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Thank you for answering my question. I guess I misunderstood you about misunderstanding me about misunder... you know what I'll just stop right there. I probably will not get the G27, it does not seem like a better buy for the extra money assuming the price for G25 drops. Thanks again.
I guess I misunderstood you about misunderstanding me about misunder... you know what I'll just stop right there. I probably will not get the G27, it does not seem like a better buy for the extra money assuming the price for G25 drops. Thanks again.- 114
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i had a Fanatec Turbo wheel and it only lasted about 2-3 months. they have reliability issues, and customer service issues as well. i hate to talk bad about them but my experience with them was not a good one.
i now have a G27 and so far i am liking it. yea it does make some noise, but it does not affect anything, it's just noise. i wrote up a full comparison between the Fanatec wheel and the G27. it will be up for everybody to read shortly. but in short, there are quite a bit of reasons that i so far prefer the Logitech over the Fanatec.
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