General Fighting Games Thread

[AOS-]

Bet you didn't know you could do beat Ibuki's Ultra 1, Darren...

I also beat Balrog's U2 before, though I'm still unsure if he wasn't in grab range...

 

[nk4e]

Bet you didn't know you could do that...

I also beat Balrog's U2 before, though I'm still unsure if he wasn't in grab range...

Most likely..its kind of like Geif's U1 but has less range..

The start up on this move is 1 frame. It will punish anything that is -1 assuming you are in range.

 

[AOS-]

I was almost certain Balrog and Honda's U2 were 1 frame startup, because I can see the camera zip back to default camera view for a brief moment. If it was 0-frame, I shouldn't see a thing.... someone told me it was a 0-frame move.

 

[nk4e]

Dirty bull has 3 active frames and 1+1 start up. Like I have quoted, if anything with a -1 attacks and within range. U2 will get them. U2 has a 1 frame invincibility than U1 with has 1 to 10 frames of invincibility.

EX rush upper/ Straight > U1 ( best thing ever!)

 

[AOS-]

You can jump out of that, can't you?

 

[nk4e]

Yep, if you can predict it. I think you can also backdash.

 

[AOS-]

You can't backdash out of that because Balrog moves towards you during the ultra...wait, if you predict it? Does the blockstun last that long or is it supposed to be a whiffed punch up close so that you can input the ultra right after (like a dash ultra)?

 

[nk4e]

IMO, since U2 is a throw with a 1+1 Frame, most characters have invincible frames during a back dash. Just working with Chun vs Rog, it has to be timed ( a little bit before he finishes his words you back dash). But to actually get U2 in, you have to setup them up for it. Either it be FADC> U2 or Rush upper > U2.
Setups:

The reason I said, Ex.Rush upper> U1 because the EX could be cancelled into a Ultra
http://youtu.be/jGSewCf8q30?t=1m45s


Though these are just merely tricks, Rog is either really offensive or defensive. You can poke and wait till the time is over.

 

[AOS-]

OH Ultra 2... you see, you wrote Dash Punch to Ultra ONE before.

Didn't know you can cancel it though... does it only work if the EX Punch absorbs something?

 

[boomee]

I have to words to say to every one POWAH WAVE!!!!!!! ( even though my favorite KOF character is Clark STill)

 

[AOS-]

 

[nk4e]

I hate elf

 

[AOS-]

It's so much fun watching him go!

 

[boomee]

I hate elf

I agree not feeling furete he needs a POWAH WAVE!!!!

 

[nk4e]

Playing against Elf is just a guessing game...

 

[RACECAR]

I've never wanted a Soul Caliber Game like I suddenly do now. I don't even care that I don't know squat about the characters or the story or that I will suck badly at fighting on it.

 

[boomee]

man it is looking good and it comes out in freakin january thats an odd fighting game month lol

 

[AOS-]

Playing against Elf is just a guessing game...

Fighting Games ARE guessing games....

His run is what makes him hard to react to since, he can go from run to all sorts of different moves... but if you can read a fuerte player and not a cruddy one), you're already a pretty good player in general.

 

[nk4e]

Fighting Games ARE guessing games....

His run is what makes him hard to react to since, he can go from run to all sorts of different moves... but if you can read a fuerte player and not a cruddy one), you're already a pretty good player in general.

Sadly, he doesn't have much HP points.

 

[AOS-]

And you would want him to have higher hp?

 

[Darren.]

El fuerte is one of my worst character tbh. Hopefully SSFIV AE 2012 fixes him/makes him better...

 

[nk4e]

Not really... but

hey aimed to make him more fun to play without heavily affecting his overall balance. Tortilla has reverted to its Vanilla form, i.e., invincible straight after start-up)
• EX Quesadilla Bomb now only takes 210 frames of charge and wall-bounces, and both level 3 regular and EX Quesadilla Bombs only freeze Fuerte for 10 frames on hit.
• Elsewhere, cr.LP can be chain cancelled into other jab or short moves, while st.FP, Habanero Dash, Sliding now works on everyone.
• EX Guacamole Leg Throw El Fuerte’s stun after landing has been reduced by 3F, making it 10F total.

 

[AOS-]

El fuerte is one of my worst character tbh. Hopefully SSFIV AE 2012 fixes him/makes him better...

Ahem, Gen.... Dan... Vega...

Elf has a terrible backdash, and doesn't have a easy time dealing with pressure. You can only ex run back for so long.

 

[nk4e]

Ahem, Gen.... Dan... Vega...

Elf has a terrible backdash, and doesn't have a easy time dealing with pressure. You can only ex run back for so long.

Gen and Claw aren't horrible...hell Dan isn't horrible at all. He just has his low S-Tier.

 

[boomee]

Pretty cool article on PlayStation blog on KOF13 looks like a possibility of that game being ported to vita is possible, also another SVC Chaos and Capcom vs SNK title is a possibility.The only other game that was sorted hinted at is my favorite Garou 2 :MOW project. heres crossing are fingers

woops forgot the link here it is
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/11/01/the-king-of-fighters-xiii-interview-fighting-its-way-back-to-the-throne/

 

[AOS-]

Gen and Claw aren't horrible...hell Dan isn't horrible at all. He just has his low S-Tier.

Not on their own, but when you compare it to other characters (which only comes naturally for FGs), they are indeed not great at all.


edjt: and just because JWong can showcase footage of beating top players with Dan, doesn't necessarily mean the character isn't bad. You have to understand JWong just knows the game really well... Hell I can beat lots of people in a race with all sorts of different cars in HP3, but that doesn't change the fact that there's still going be the slower cars and the faster cars...

 

[Tornado]

SVC Chaos

BOO!

Capcom vs SNK

All of my money!

The only other game that was sorted hinted at is my favorite Garou 2 :MOW project. heres crossing are fingers

I hope not, honestly. SNK of today just doesn't have the spark that they would need, I don't think.

 

[boomee]

BOO!


All of my money!



I hope not, honestly. SNK of today just doesn't have the spark that they would need, I don't think.

maybe we should wait till KOF 13 comes out to make that judgment call I know im am somewhat of a kof fanboi but it really sounds like from all the people that have played different build that they poured there heart and soul into this one!

 

[nk4e]

Not on their own, but when you compare it to other characters (which only comes naturally for FGs), they are indeed not great at all.


edjt: and just because JWong can showcase footage of beating top players with Dan, doesn't necessarily mean the character isn't bad. You have to understand JWong just knows the game really well... Hell I can beat lots of people in a race with all sorts of different cars in HP3, but that doesn't change the fact that there's still going be the slower cars and the faster cars...

Theory Fighter, sure Jwong could probably beat Air if he used Gen. Gen is 4-6 against Ryu, Dan is 3-6 against Ryu, and to thrown in something. Makoto is 4-6/

 

[AOS-]

You're comparing player to player to decide how good a character is...

I'm comparing character to character, which is what it really comes down to in theory fighting or any game with a roster and developed tier list..