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- BrandonW77
God I hope there's going to be standing start racing...
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- SavageEvil
I think standing starts versus the AI is more of a technical decision, have you seen the amount of slowdown when 16 high detail cars get together on screen? PS3 is basically standing on it's last legs pushing PD's vision. Now smack that together with tire smoke of standing starts and we have the system crumbling or grinding to a halt. If PD gave us standing starts and toned down the tire smoke for launches at the beginning of the race then I'm fine with having the option, but I hope qualify makes it back and also the free run before the race as well. These were invaluable in GT games previous to GT5 and very necessary.
I would really enjoy having rolling starts for online races as well too, and allow us to choose 2 x 2 rolling starts. No more of that long train on Circuit de la Sarthe and a staggered 2 x 2 would work nicely. I do hope PD is open with the community for this game.
I would really enjoy having rolling starts for online races as well too, and allow us to choose 2 x 2 rolling starts. No more of that long train on Circuit de la Sarthe and a staggered 2 x 2 would work nicely. I do hope PD is open with the community for this game.
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- JohnSchoonsBeard
There was no mention of qualifying in the preview on the Portuguese language website (yesterday). It said something along the lines of Career mode format as before.
I don't have a problem starting at the back if the cars are more closely matched and races are longer.
I don't have a problem starting at the back if the cars are more closely matched and races are longer.
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- GTP_iainoflo
Then why can it be done online if the PS3 cannot handle it?
If the career mode is like GT5 then you'll be starting mid-pack in a race, not at the back. The chase the rabbit was only in the licenses and seasonals.
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- SavageEvil
Let's see PS3 online has zero AI that the system has to cater for and can focus on human players and visuals and physics. Offline have to spread it's clock cycles across 15 AI. You can figure it out, it shouldn't be hard to notice at all. PS3 just doesn't have the grunt to do all of that, which is why you see some things working in one mode(head tracking) and not work in another. 256mb x 2 pools of RAM is bad and PD had to work around that and still pulled off all sorts of things but standing starts is one thing that they didn't figure out using whatever solution they had. GT6 could have it if they figured out how to have 15 AI plus the smoke generation effects for possible standing start launches.
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I hope Boabdulrahman will clear this up very soon once he progresses in the game!
Can't wait 👍
Can't wait 👍
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- GTP_iainoflo
This earlier quote is what I was referring to. You said 16 high detail cars on screen together. Then you go on to talk about AI which didn't answer my question:
How can you get 16 high detail cars together on one screen online?
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- JohnSchoonsBeard
Yes but I would happily take starting from the back in an evenly matched field. Still, let's see what we get very shortly
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- SavageEvil
Looking for an argument or are you being facetious? The max cars on screen in GT5 is 16 is it not? When I said highly detailed cars I meant all premiums as the standard cars do not have the same poly count. Back to my AI, what do you think the PS3 magically has offline AI that runs independent of the entire game? Hence why the game doesn't have standing starts with more than 6 cars when AI is active. Next time POINT out what you are referring to instead of quoting the entire comment if you want targeted replies.
Reading your reply, you your self can see that you in no way make it obvious you are talking about arbitrary claim in this comment I am replying to. Wow, not sure what to think of you I have a four letter word and goes with telling tall tales. Either way my point still stands, PS3 can only do so much. You want standing starts in offline play up to PD if they can get it to work without bogging the system and consequently the frame rate. Kaz himself admitted that GT5 didn't run at 60fps especially when you get all the cars being rendered on screen at once and effects going. Anyway, I am out of this here conversation since you can't even take information without attempting to subvert or act out of place.
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- GTP_iainoflo
Not looking for an argument, and you're clearly avoiding my question because you cannot answer it, yet go off on a tangent about AI again.
I'm not going to . . .
Nah, 🤬 this, you're not going to listen anyway.
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- FOXIOL
In practice mode you have them. Weird to not have them in actual events. So I agree with OP.
Qualifying and starting grid (standing starts) is a must have in a racing game. In Online mode it should be implemented with time like in real life...Qualify session during like 20 minutes more or less and then the race. Even a "Practice session" before Qualifying should be there. Then you can choose if having it or not...add a "random grid" like in arcade mode for those who don´t care and done.
Qualifying and starting grid (standing starts) is a must have in a racing game. In Online mode it should be implemented with time like in real life...Qualify session during like 20 minutes more or less and then the race. Even a "Practice session" before Qualifying should be there. Then you can choose if having it or not...add a "random grid" like in arcade mode for those who don´t care and done.
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- SavageEvil
Put your view in 3rd person mode with 15 Ai, how hard is it to get 16 cars on the screen at once in GT5? Care to ask me another question that you already knew the answer to? How am I avoiding the question? Please I explained why 16 cars on screen with effects puts strain on the PS3 and the engine hence why PD avoids using standing starts. Yes I think you are looking for an argument since the explanation for the AI ties directly to 16 cars reasoning. I do not like speaking to people who purposely try to be difficult. You're the one not listening nor using your grey matter to understand exactly what I was saying.
Again if there are 15 Ai cars plus your car in 3rd view, how many cars is that on the screen? Answer me that.
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Come on dude, of course the game could handle standing starts with 16 cars. Don't be silly
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