Good Track/Daily Driver?

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Well, I got offered a '92 Civic D15 (not sure the exact sub-model, if that's the word) for my Odyssey. Needs a lot, but I'm thinking about getting it. Said the transmission still works, but isn't worth a damn, needs a lot (and I mean a LOT) of body work, salvaged title, been wrecked and says he was quoted it was $1,700 worth of damage. Said he has a short throw shifter, Magnaglow muffler, and a few other aftermarket parts on it. Tempted to get it, but that's a lot of work and I'm no mechanic. Not sure how much transmissions cost either. Any idea on the exact model? Engine is a D15 VTEC. Maybe a D15B? It's a sedan, not a hatchback.
 
I wouldn't get that. Cost to repair is ALWAYS gonna be higher than what they say because there might be another thing that you want repaired that he could care less about, or repairs that he didn't see.
You gotta think about it this way, you're trading your running truck for an early 90's Honda with a iffy transmission, thousands worth of body damage, and a salvage title. At that point you're basically buying aftermarket parts.
 
I wouldn't get that. Cost to repair is ALWAYS gonna be higher than what they say because there might be another thing that you want repaired that he could care less about, or repairs that he didn't see.
You gotta think about it this way, you're trading your running truck for an early 90's Honda with a iffy transmission, thousands worth of body damage, and a salvage title. At that point you're basically buying aftermarket parts.

Not trading my truck for it. Trading my 1983 Honda Odyssey FL250 that I'm asking $600 for for it.
 
Not trading my truck for it. Trading my 1983 Honda Odyssey FL250 that I'm asking $600 for for it.
Ahh I misread. In that case I guess you aren't gonna lose too much in the short run. If you see yourself being able to drive this car for an extended period of time then I guess you can go for it, You'll be investing a lot more into the car than what you're essentially paying for it so you gotta make sure that you're committed to this project.
 
Ahh I misread. In that case I guess you aren't gonna lose too much in the short run. If you see yourself being able to drive this car for an extended period of time then I guess you can go for it, You'll be investing a lot more into the car than what you're essentially paying for it so you gotta make sure that you're committed to this project.

See, that's the thing. I don't want a project right now unless it's an ATC 250R or TRX250R, but at the same time, I have no use for my Odyssey and its just sitting there and no one is offering to buy it (besides the low ballers offering $300-$400). I don't wanna trade it for another project that's just gonna sit there for ages, but I'm tired of staring at it.
 
I'm not being silly, but might as well B-Spec a Mazda 2/Honda Fit/Kia Rio. Parts would be super cheap, you'll gradually advance your driving skills, it probably won't get stolen or be expensive to insure and there are plenty of spares.
 
See, that's the thing. I don't want a project right now unless it's an ATC 250R or TRX250R, but at the same time, I have no use for my Odyssey and its just sitting there and no one is offering to buy it (besides the low ballers offering $300-$400). I don't wanna trade it for another project that's just gonna sit there for ages, but I'm tired of staring at it.

I wouldn't recommend buying a wrecked/salvaged car - especially for performance reasons. If you don't want the Odyssey, make a decent run at selling it to get it out of there. You don't need to acquire something you don't want just because you don't want what you have.

How did we go from a $50k budget to discussing whether or not to buy a trashed civic for $600?
 
I wouldn't recommend buying a wrecked/salvaged car - especially for performance reasons. If you don't want the Odyssey, make a decent run at selling it to get it out of there. You don't need to acquire something you don't want just because you don't want what you have.

How did we go from a $50k budget to discussing whether or not to buy a trashed civic for $600?
He's right. Don't just get whatever just to get rid of the Odyssey. Get as much as you can out of the Odyssey and invest that in a car that's in good shape.
 
I wouldn't recommend buying a wrecked/salvaged car - especially for performance reasons. If you don't want the Odyssey, make a decent run at selling it to get it out of there. You don't need to acquire something you don't want just because you don't want what you have.

How did we go from a $50k budget to discussing whether or not to buy a trashed civic for $600?

Because I ended up not getting the job I was supposed to get, so the budget will be low for a bit. Probably just gonna buy a better wheel, pedals, and stand for my PS3 for now to tie me over on real world circuit racing.
 
Because I ended up not getting the job I was supposed to get, so the budget will be low for a bit. Probably just gonna buy a better wheel, pedals, and stand for my PS3 for now to tie me over on real world circuit racing.

Why were we hypothetically spending money you were supposedly going to get from a job you didn't have?

My suggestion is the following:
- Wait until you have the job you want before you mentally spend the money. It's healthier for your psyche.
- Do not borrow money to buy a car (there are exceptions to this, but they probably don't apply to you)
- Do not attempt to buy a car that is good on the street and good on the track, that is for super rich people.
- You can take just about any car to the track. I've driven a car that was purchased for $3800 (E36 BMW) on the track and had a blast. I think the only mod was tires. I drove that same car on all-season tires in an autocross event and had a blast.
- Whatever car you take to the track you should not rely on and you probably shouldn't actually really care about.
- If you're going to buy a flashy car, buy it for yourself. Flashy cars don't really impress people. They look cool, they might get you a little attention, but none of that attention really transfers to you. You also do not want to attempt to pick up girls by impressing them with your car. It's harder than you think and you probably won't like what you get.
- You need to decide which one is more important to you right now, driving something nicer than your truck everywhere, and driving something good at the track.
- Sell the minivan and start saving for whichever one you picked above.

Here's a small example of why you shouldn't take your daily to the track. You will destroy street brake pads in an instant. It's astounding how fast they disintegrate on the track. Track pads, however, will hold up much better and perform better (ie: brake fade). Brake fade come with street pads and is scary. The scariest part of driving on the track is the turn at the end of the straight when you're doing well over 100 mph and you're about to brake the last possible second and are going to count on said brakes to keep you from flying off the track. Brake fade makes that experience more terrifying since it adds an element of "I don't know how well this car can brake right now" onto "I really need these brakes to work right now".

Track pads are very nice on the track, and will keep your street pads from turning to dust. But... they suck on the street. Some people change pads at the track... but... that's a little absurd.
 
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Why were we hypothetically spending money you were supposedly going to get from a job you didn't have?

My suggestion is the following:
- Wait until you have the job you want before you mentally spend the money. It's healthier for your psyche.
- Do not borrow money to buy a car (there are exceptions to this, but they probably don't apply to you)
- Do not attempt to buy a car that is good on the street and good on the track, that is for super rich people.
- You can take just about any car to the track. I've driven a car that was purchased for $3800 (E36 BMW) on the track and had a blast. I think the only mod was tires. I drove that same car on all-season tires in an autocross event and had a blast.
- Whatever car you take to the track you should not rely on and you probably shouldn't actually really care about.
- If you're going to buy a flashy car, buy it for yourself. Flashy cars don't really impress people. They look cool, they might get you a little attention, but none of that attention really transfers to you. You also do not want to attempt to pick up girls by impressing them with your car. It's harder than you think and you probably won't like what you get.
- You need to decide which one is more important to you right now, driving something nicer than your truck everywhere, and driving something good at the track.
- Sell the minivan and start saving for whichever one you picked above.
I never borrow money for anything. Don't like asking for things. The flashy car would be for me and not impressing others, especially not to try and pick up girls with.
The Odyssey isn't a minivan.
 
Why would Honda do that? Two vehicles with the same name? That's just a full-on lack of creativity.

It's the original Odyssey. The 250 2-stroke mini dune buggy. The Pilot is the same way. The original Pilot FL400 was a 400cc 2-stroke dune buggy.
 
It's the original Odyssey. The 250 2-stroke mini dune buggy. The Pilot is the same way. The original Pilot FL400 was a 400cc 2-stroke dune buggy.

At some point in the process of going from dune buggy to minivan they needed to go ahead and change the name so that they don't make a mess of their product names - because that's just confusing.
 
At some point in the process of going from dune buggy to minivan they needed to go ahead and change the name so that they don't make a mess of their product names - because that's just confusing.

Not really. If it was made in the late '70's, '80's, or early '90's, it's a buggy. Any newer is a car. Also, if someone says FL250, FL350, or FL400, it's the buggy.
 
Not really. If it was made in the late '70's, '80's, or early '90's, it's a buggy. Any newer is a car. Also, if someone says FL250, FL350, or FL400, it's the buggy.

I'm not saying it's impossible to figure out, I'm saying that it's a terrible idea to re-use a product name for a related-but-incredibly-different product because it makes a mess out of your product line up. You don't have to defend Honda's marketing department, it wasn't your idea (presumably... I mean, maybe you are a marketing person for Honda).
 
I'm not saying it's impossible to figure out, I'm saying that it's a terrible idea to re-use a product name for a related-but-incredibly-different product because it makes a mess out of your product line up. You don't have to defend Honda's marketing department, it wasn't your idea (presumably... I mean, maybe you are a marketing person for Honda).

I don't see it as a big deal. It's generally pretty easy to tell what someone is referring to when it comes down to it. I'm not defending Honda at all. Although, if they endorse me, I'll happily defend them and back all their products (in case they're reading this). *Wink*
 
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