Google says GT7 will be released in 2016. :D

[AverageJoe59]

Yes because the entire company shuts down and goes to Germany to take part in it

That's what it seems like they're doing...

 

[quatschkopp]

*EDIT*

Sorry for deleting the previous posting, normally I'd stick to what I've written. But I realized that it was just a huge pile of inappropriate off-topic rant..

 

[gtracedriver1]

Here is a big hint.

Uncharted 4 is releasing on March 18th next year. This is suppose to be one of the biggest game for Sony. I thought it would be in second half of 2016 for sure. But the date is confirmed in PS blog now

So ... what other AAA game they could be releasing in second half of 2016 ?

 

[Tenacious D]

Assetto Corsa.

But seriously, GT7 could show up at the end of 2016. It would suit the holiday rush and SONY bean counters who live for initial sales figures. However, I am a little torn on a date this early. I want a pretty big, bold, comprehensive GT7, maybe even bigger than GT4. Much of that involves programming, and wise utilization of the assets they plan to have ready by then. Modeling and texturing is always the hard, lengthy part.

There is a possible caveat to this though. RaceRoom has managed to come up with a system in which "experiences," which in essence are entire racing league seasons with associated cars and tracks, are made available in a block download for a given price. If Kaz and the team approach GT7 systematically as I hope they do, rather than just grabbing anything and everything they can regardless of how it fits together, like I hope they don't, then GT7 could be released sooner as a fully functional game.

No, I'd rather they not do this either. But consider the potential of a GT7 with more content ready to go than we suspect, after working on the game possibly many months before GT6 even went gold. By "systematically," I mean that PD developed GT7 with racing series and leagues in mind. So for sports cars, a wide variety of similarly performing cars in various classes will be on hand. Race cars from various leagues will be modeled and liveried, with enough cars to flesh out a full field without duplicates or cars that have no business being there, as we saw in GT5 and 6. With enough content - and hate the Standards or not, that's an ungodly number of cars - they could have quite a lot of proper racing events ready to go by December 2016.

And with careful planning, they could follow the RaceRoom model by providing entire racing league packages. Some of them wouldn't be all that extravagant, such as giving us a DTM 2017 package, which has an updated car roster, liveries, appropriate updates to existing cars, any new tracks, etc. Historic racing series such as Super Touring Car from the mid-90s. Anything in this vein is possible, and would give us a lot more to enjoy than some grab bag DLC. Features like Course Maker, Event Maker and Livery Editor, no, I want those from Day 1.

It's a thought. It may be a bad thought, but that's what discussion is about. And this is why I'm torn. Getting GT7 a little sooner, with certain sections grayed out with a Work In Progress sign slapped across it, or a more complete GT7 a little - or a lot - later. Keep in mind that either way, we'll be getting DLC, so it's a matter of how much next gen Gran Turismo how soon.

 

[Tired Tyres]

GT what/where/when? Given my DFGT won't work on PS4 the law of unintended consequences kicks in. Since I'm no longer locked into the PlayStation because of my wheel. If I have to buy a new wheel, who's to say it should be for the PS4? Why not the Xbox1 instead? TWO Forza games and no GT7.TWO! What are they playing at? No news, no trailers, no nothing. Did they learn nothing at all from the lack of hype over GT6? GT7 very soon or never.

 

[sk8er913]

I was surprised to see this thread still active. There's actually some good ideas.

Yes because the entire company shuts down and goes to Germany to take part in it

They are doing "work research" It is a very important thing! I wouldn't be surprised if we got a new nurburgring next year with the new layout at FlugPlatz. It is the company's favorite track, clearly. And the one we have now was scanned in 2008. (It's painted on the road a few miles after Adenaur Forst)

 

[JKgo]

...You know, I just realized something.

Ever since the first GT shipped, there always have been two numbered main GT games per console generation, a tradition PDI seems to stick to, judging by GT6's release schedule.

So then, following this small chain of logic, if GT7 comes out on tail end of 2016, PS4'd be out for three years. Almost without fail, a new console generation comes along every five years (I said almost!!!).

Assuming there're some unforeseen happenstances gracing us in next few years, and the current gen gets extended by a year or two, and the dev time for a hypothetical GT8 takes about three years again, then...

Then won't GT8 launch around the same time as PS5 hits the stores?? Eh? Will that be a repeat of this very sub-forum's topics of late?

Wowsers.

 

[Tenacious D]

Or it could be the first time the trend was broken. I could see it going either way. Yet another swan song Gran Turismo for PS4, with possible lackluster sales, or a GT8 released within a year or so of PS5's launch. Though a GT on an even more powerful Playstation? Sign me up for that, please!

 

[TeamCZRRacing]

...You know, I just realized something.

Ever since the first GT shipped, there always have been two numbered main GT games per console generation, a tradition PDI seems to stick to, judging by GT6's release schedule.

So then, following this small chain of logic, if GT7 comes out on tail end of 2016, PS4'd be out for three years. Almost without fail, a new console generation comes along every five years (I said almost!!!).

Assuming there're some unforeseen happenstances gracing us in next few years, and the current gen gets extended by a year or two, and the dev time for a hypothetical GT8 takes about three years again, then...

Then won't GT8 launch around the same time as PS5 hits the stores?? Eh? Will that be a repeat of this very sub-forum's topics of late?

Wowsers.

Keep in mind that the previous generation lasted eight years (from 2006 to 2013), so given the relatively minor graphical update compared to previous generations, I'd expect this one to last at least a decade.

 

[Tenacious D]

Eh, a decade is probably not going to be how long this generation lasts. A PC is good for three or four years, because the memory and graphic requirements are insatiable. While I agree that s video game console is a different beast from a computer, a number of people are predicting that this generation may have another five year lifetime like most game consoles had, because both PS4 and XBox have aimed a little low in processing power to make them more affordable. Both for consumers and their producers.

But I can easily see the next generation going 4K, which will require beefier GPUs and more memory. I don't know how much more we really need from a console, when Project CARS can run on PS4 at a nice framerate with 50 freaking cars on track. But then, if we could have more, wouldn't we want more? Draw distance of half a mile? No visible LOD? A space game in which an asteroid field was rendered to incredible detail for thousands of miles? Why not?

 

[JKgo]

Keep in mind that the previous generation lasted eight years (from 2006 to 2013), so given the relatively minor graphical update compared to previous generations, I'd expect this one to last at least a decade.

...If my memory serves me correctly, last gen was criticised by pretty much everyone in the dev community for too-long-in-the-tooth. Yes, I'm well aware Sony did say they'll support PS3 for a decade, and I'm sure they will honor that, but a decade without a brand new, spangly console? I can't see it happening.

Looking back on a lot of hardware cycles most, if not all, consoles were superseded by a superior hardware within five, six years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_video_game_console_releases_in_North_America

 

[Tired Tyres]

I think the reason both Sony and Microsoft went the cheap no risk route with these consoles specification wise is because they were not sure there was a market for them. Gaming is switching to mobile platforms and neither knew if that was in preference to consoles or in addition to them. Depending on what happens in the next couple of years, these may be the last traditional consoles either company makes.

 

[AverageJoe59]

PD announced that the frequency of seasonal events would be reduced by half. Common sense dictates that they're hunkering down and putting more time and resources into GT7.

 

[Mike_grpA]

...You know, I just realized something.

Ever since the first GT shipped, there always have been two numbered main GT games per console generation, a tradition PDI seems to stick to, judging by GT6's release schedule.

So then, following this small chain of logic, if GT7 comes out on tail end of 2016, PS4'd be out for three years. Almost without fail, a new console generation comes along every five years (I said almost!!!).

Assuming there're some unforeseen happenstances gracing us in next few years, and the current gen gets extended by a year or two, and the dev time for a hypothetical GT8 takes about three years again, then...

Then won't GT8 launch around the same time as PS5 hits the stores?? Eh? Will that be a repeat of this very sub-forum's topics of late?

Wowsers.

Every Sony console has been supported for 10 years, with it's successor launching when it's been out for around 7 years. Maybe Sony will change that approach with PS4, maybe not. But, one thing's certain, they have never launched a new console when the current one is only 5 years old. Same pattern every time so far, launch new console on current one's 7th year, and sell them both side by side until the outgoing one hits 10 years. The only deviation from that was the PS3 launched when PS2 had been out for 6 years and 8 months, but close enough, they still stuck to the ten year product life cycle thing.

GT5 also came out late 2010, four years after the PS3 launched. I know we had Prologue, but that was a glorified demo, and I don't think PD would want to do another prologue.

I would be almost willing to bet GT7 comes out near the end of next year, in time for the holiday season. Sony loves launching big franchise sequels close to Christmas, and I can't see PD needing until the end of 2017 to release GT7. They would have started working on GT7 shortly after the release of GT6 at the very latest, but more likely before GT6 released, so that means it's been in development for coming close to two years already. Another year and a few months should be all they need. Especially since the PS4 is supposedly so much easier to develop for than the PS3.

Of course I could be wrong, but if I were a betting man, my money would be on a December 2016 release.

 

[JKgo]

Every Sony console has been supported for 10 years, with it's successor launching when it's been out for around 7 years. Maybe Sony will change that approach with PS4, maybe not. But, one thing's certain, they have never launched a new console when the current one is only 5 years old. Same pattern every time so far, launch new console on current one's 7th year, and sell them both side by side until the outgoing one hits 10 years. The only deviation from that was the PS3 launched when PS2 had been out for 6 years and 8 months, but close enough, they still stuck to the ten year product life cycle thing.

...

Uhm, dude you did check out the link I tried so hard to unearth, right?

Looking back on a lot of hardware cycles most, if not all, consoles were superseded by a superior hardware within five, six years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_video_game_console_releases_in_North_America

 

[Mike_grpA]

...

Uhm, dude you did check out the link I tried so hard to unearth, right?

That's NA only. It released in '95 in NA, but it released in '94 in Japan. So 6 years between the first two, almost 7 between 2 and 3, and 7 between 3 and 4. They all ran on 10 year product lifecycles though. Although afaik Sony extended the PS2's because it was still selling surprisingly well even when it turned ten.

 

[JKgo]

That's NA only. It released in '95 in NA, but it released in '94 in Japan. So 6 years between the first two, almost 7 between 2 and 3, and 7 between 3 and 4. They all ran on 10 year product lifecycles though. Although afaik Sony extended the PS2's because it was still selling surprisingly well even when it turned ten.

...Forgive me, I tend to forget the rest of the world exist sometimes...heh.

 

[ubieca99]

dear PD and Sony, please consider also releasing on PC platform.

you won't lose sales, in fact, you will at least quadruple them.

no matter, I look forward to the late Dec 2016 release, just in time for the next Sony online outage that will be blamed on the Interview part to or other.

the greatest feature I look forward to, is photo realistic tracks, and a complete sound overhaul.

I'll accept the same car lineup as GT5 and GT6, only if the above can be met.

You don't understand do you? PD is strongly dependand on Sony, that means they produce GT not to sell games, but to sell consoles (they do want the sales aswell but selling consoles is higher priority). If they were to release GT to PC people will see no point in buying PS4's which is atleast 10 million consoles remaining unsold. And besides, GT to PC would take way too much time and resources to develop. Considering that PD can barely cope with the PS version, i don't think it would be a good idea to even bother with a PC version. Selling consoles is the same reason that games like Forza, Halo, Uncharted, The last of us and other will never see PC.

 

[occasionalracer]

If they were to release GT to PC people will see no point in buying PS4's which is atleast 10 million consoles remaining unsold.

That's an epic exaggeration. I would bet on 500,000 - 700,000 maximum soley to be able to play Gran Turismo.

I hope PD/Sony work on a sweet looking special edition GT themed/coloured console bundle like T10/Microsoft have done for Forza 6. If I don't hear anything by end of the year I'lll be buying the Destiny White console. That makes me think.. why can't consoles have a variety of colours to start with available at all times?? Red, Yellow, Blue, Gold, Silver, whatever.. let us choose.. surely adding colour into the plastic can't cost more than $1 during production.

 

[Mike_grpA]

...Forgive me, I tend to forget the rest of the world exist sometimes...heh.

All good, those numbers you posted helped correct me where I was wrong, in that PS1 was out for 6 years before PS2 instead of 7.

I've always been impressed by Sony's ability to run their consoles on 10 year life cycles. Before them, I don't think consoles were ever sold for so long. I could be wrong of course, but I don't remember Nintendo or Sega for example ever selling one console for ten years.

I did find an article yesterday though where a Sony exec said PS4 might be the first Sony system to break the trend and not sell for the full 10 years, but nothing was set in stone. I think it will be dependent on how quickly the competition moves on, and how successful the PS4 continues to be.

 

[sk8er913]

Eh, a decade is probably not going to be how long this generation lasts. A PC is good for three or four years, because the memory and graphic requirements are insatiable. While I agree that s video game console is a different beast from a computer, a number of people are predicting that this generation may have another five year lifetime like most game consoles had, because both PS4 and XBox have aimed a little low in processing power to make them more affordable. Both for consumers and their producers.

But I can easily see the next generation going 4K, which will require beefier GPUs and more memory. I don't know how much more we really need from a console, when Project CARS can run on PS4 at a nice framerate with 50 freaking cars on track. But then, if we could have more, wouldn't we want more? Draw distance of half a mile? No visible LOD? A space game in which an asteroid field was rendered to incredible detail for thousands of miles? Why not?

But the PS2 and PS3 both lasted for 7 or 8 years. And even though the PS4 might not be super high spec at it's release we are seeing Moore's law start to fall off as we are getting really close to the atomic scale. Hardware development is beginning to slow down. And is expected to stop completely in about 10 to 15 years. I would not be surprised if we see the PS4 last until about 2021 or event later, and the PS5 last until about 2030-2035. When the PS6 and all of its slim variants will last a VERY VERY LONG TIME, because hardware development will have reached a standstill, unless something amazing happens. But with our current evidence... Processors won't necessarily get faster after 2030; they might grow larger or become more efficent. But their raw power most likely won't improve, for a very very long time..


PD will have plenty of time to continue their 2 games per cycle method for PS4.

 

[Johnnypenso]

But the PS2 and PS3 both lasted for 7 or 8 years. And even though the PS4 might not be super high spec at it's release we are seeing Moore's law start to fall off as we are getting really close to the atomic scale. Hardware development is beginning to slow down. And is expected to stop completely in about 10 to 15 years. I would not be surprised if we see the PS4 last until about 2021 or event later, and the PS5 last until about 2030-2035. When the PS6 and all of its slim variants will last a VERY VERY LONG TIME, because hardware development will have reached a standstill, unless something amazing happens. But with our current evidence... Processors won't necessarily get faster after 2030; they might grow larger or become more efficent. But their raw power most likely won't improve, for a very very long time..
PD will have plenty of time to continue their 2 games per cycle method for PS4.

Praytell McFly, when did you last use the Delorean to survey the future of hardware development

 

[sk8er913]

Praytell McFly, when did you last use the Delorean to survey the future of hardware development

You don't need a time machine to see that processors are reaching the atomic level. In which they can no longer "get faster." we've been using the same transistor techniques since the 1980s. They probably predicted it back then. But it probably didn't seem important at the time as they had 40 or 50 years to develop it.

Here are some Wikipedia entries that explain this in depth quite well. Very interesting read, I highly recommend it.

Moore's law (/mɔərz.ˈlɔː/) is the observation that the number of transistors in a dense integrated circuit doubles approximately every two years. The observation is named after Gordon E. Moore, the co-founder of Intel and Fairchild Semiconductor, whose 1965 paper described a doubling every year in the number of components per integrated circuit,[note 1] and projected this rate of growth would continue for at least another decade.[2][3] In 1975,[4]looking forward to the next decade,[5] he revised the forecast to doubling every two years.[6][7][8]

His prediction proved accurate for several decades, and the law was used in thesemiconductor industry to guide long-term planning and to set targets for research and development.[9] Advancements in digital electronics are strongly linked to Moore's law:quality-adjusted microprocessor prices,[10]memory capacity, sensors and even the number and size of pixels in digital cameras.[11]

Digital electronics have contributed to world economic growth in the late twentieth and early twenty-first centuries.[12] Moore's law describes a driving force of technological and social change, productivity, and economic growth.[13][14][15][16]

The period is often quoted as 18 months because of Intel executive David House, who predicted that chip performance would double every 18 months (being a combination of the effect of more transistors and their being faster).[17]

"Moore's law" should be considered anobservation or projection and obviously not aphysical or natural law. Although the rate held steady from 1975 until around 2012, the rate was faster during the first decade. In general, it is not logically sound to extrapolate from the historical growth rate into the indefinite future. For example, the 2010 update to theInternational Technology Roadmap for Semiconductors, predicted that growth would slow around 2013,[18] and Gordon Moore in 2015 foresaw that the rate of progress would reach saturation: "I see Moore’s law dying here in the next decade or so."[19]

Intel confirmed in 2015 that the pace of advancement has slowed, starting at the 22 nm node around 2012, and continuing at 14 nm. Brian Krzanich, CEO of Intel, announced that "our cadence today is closer to two and a half years than two.” This is scheduled to hold through the 10 nm node in late 2017.[20]He cited Moore's 1975 revision as a precedent for the current deceleration, which results from technical challenges and is “a natural part of the history of Moore's law.”

On April 13, 2005, Gordon Moore stated in an interview that the projection cannot be sustained indefinitely: "It can't continue forever. The nature of exponentials is that you push them out and eventually disaster happens". He also noted that transistorseventually would reach the limits of miniaturization at atomic levels:

"In terms of size [of transistors] you can see that we're approaching the size of atoms which is a fundamental barrier, but it'll be two or three generations before we get that far—but that's as far out as we've ever been able to see. We have another 10 to 20 years before we reach a fundamental limit."

Basically Moore predicted what our processors would be like until 2025 in 1965, with minor tweaks in 1975 and he hasn't been wrong yet.

 

[Tired Tyres]

There's still a lot of development in those two/three generations to make today's tech look steam powered though. The PS4 is a low tech/low risk console without the great big jump in power that previous generations had because it was a financial decision rather than a tech decision. That means this gen should be replaced sooner rather than later.

 

[sk8er913]

There's still a lot of development in those two/three generations to make today's tech look steam powered though. The PS4 is a low tech/low risk console without the great big jump in power that previous generations had because it was a financial decision rather than a tech decision. That means this gen should be replaced sooner rather than later.

We will be approximately 64 times more powerful at our peak than at the PS4s release, and about 32 times more powerful than our current tech.

 

[Old man G]

Google says GT7 will be released in 2016, how did they get this info?

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Great... Because PD refuses to keep their fans informed about GT7, Google is now our new source for upcoming GT titles, even though there's no solid evidence of GT7 coming in 2016.....

*Sighs*

The more they ( PD ) keep quite about the game the more the game will be anticipated.....the more the game is anticipated the bigger the sales on launch....it's all about the marketing. PD is in the perfect position at the moment...looking at what all the other games have to offer and will ( should ) go better than PC or anything else on the market at launch date.....GT 7 will be big there is no two ways about that as the PS 4 is arguably the best console out at the moment.

 

[Hellburner]

The more they ( PD ) keep quite about the game the more the game will be anticipated.....the more the game is anticipated the bigger the sales on launch....it's all about the marketing. PD is in the perfect position at the moment...looking at what all the other games have to offer and will ( should ) go better than PC or anything else on the market at launch date.....GT 7 will be big there is no two ways about that as the PS 4 is arguably the best console out at the moment.

The PS4 may be the best console, but the best racing game at the moment will be Forza 6. If I haven't had bought a PS4 for Uncharted and GTA I would buy an Xbox for Forza 6 and I wouldn't wait for GT7. PD isn't in a good position because GT5 and GT6 were disappointing games.

 

[Johnnypenso]

The more they ( PD ) keep quite about the game the more the game will be anticipated.....the more the game is anticipated the bigger the sales on launch....it's all about the marketing. PD is in the perfect position at the moment...looking at what all the other games have to offer and will ( should ) go better than PC or anything else on the market at launch date.....GT 7 will be big there is no two ways about that as the PS 4 is arguably the best console out at the moment.

Kind of ironic that for two years I've seen numerous people in these forums saying that GT6 sales are poor because of a lack of marketing and hype (untrue but they make the case anyway) and here you are saying that the best marketing is absolute silence.

 

[Old man G]

Kind of ironic that for two years I've seen numerous people in these forums saying that GT6 sales are poor because of a lack of marketing and hype (untrue but they make the case anyway) and here you are saying that the best marketing is absolute silence.

In the past with GT 5 etcetera there was not nearly enough competition and PD had the monopoly with the GT franchise. Today it is a totally different ball game. They ( PD ) are getting pushed from all corners as technology has improved leaps and bounds and other companies are doing what PD did all those years ago....The only reason GT7 has not come out yet is because they ( PD ) are playing the waiting game. Imagine they bring out GT7 and it is not as good as PC or Forza.....not going to happen. GT is an established franchise and the longer it takes to bring the game out the more it will be anticipated.....Which is precisely what I-Phone or Samsung does - different product same strategy.... When release it will be the biggest selling game...GUARANTEED....

 

[FastFurious77]

No google is not in bed with GTP or PD yet.... But you never know. The Big hand that is GOOGLE. Its a GOOGLEY world out there, anything can happen....

Avalon agrees with me, like she knows any better than I do...