Got first wheel yesterday, any advice?

[ARTAsean]

Ive heard some guys use the paddles for downshifting at times as well.

Oh yes paddles for downshifts is a must, and is the fastest way. Its only on upshifts that the clutch helps.

 

[Pigems]

Oh yes paddles for downshifts is a must, and is the fastest way. Its only on upshifts that the clutch helps.

So it doesn’t matter that the stick is in say 5th gear but you’ve downshifted to say 2nd gear to go around a corner? Or do you pop it to neutral before hand? I’ve been curious about this part.

 

[ARTAsean]

So it doesn’t matter that the stick is in say 5th gear but you’ve downshifted to say 2nd gear to go around a corner? Or do you pop it to neutral before hand? I’ve been curious about this part.

It’s kind of confusing right, but I’ll try to explain it. You can take over with the paddles at any time, regardless of what gear the shifter is in. As a matter of fact, when I miss a shift, I upshift with the paddle instead as it’s faster than trying for the gear again.

Also, if you’ve been using the paddles, you can shift with the shifter without the clutch, kind of like a power shifter. But if you’ve used the clutch to shift your latest gear, if you move the shifter without the clutch, the car will get stuck in neutral.

Another thing I’ve discovered that’s very crucial!! - if you leave the shifter in a gear, then use the paddles, you can re-enter that gear with the clutch by itself. This really helps in Sport Mode races with a grid start.
-Leave shifter in 2nd
-Downshift to 1st with the paddle
-Launch
-When it’s time to grab 2nd gear, just kick the clutch as fast as you can, and you’ll enter 2nd gear without having to touch the shifter at all.

This makes the shift even faster, and you take off from everyone else like you have NOS.

 

[Pigems]

It’s kind of confusing right, but I’ll try to explain it. You can take over with the paddles at any time, regardless of what gear the shifter is in. As a matter of fact, when I miss a shift, I upshift with the paddle instead as it’s faster than trying for the gear again.

Also, if you’ve been using the paddles, you can shift with the shifter without the clutch, kind of like a power shifter. But if you’ve used the clutch to shift your latest gear, if you move the shifter without the clutch, the car will get stuck in neutral.

Another thing I’ve discovered that’s very crucial!! - if you leave the shifter in a gear, then use the paddles, you can re-enter that gear with the clutch by itself. This really helps in Sport Mode races with a grid start.
-Leave shifter in 2nd
-Downshift to 1st with the paddle
-Launch
-When it’s time to grab 2nd gear, just kick the clutch as fast as you can, and you’ll enter 2nd gear without having to touch the shifter at all.

This makes the shift even faster, and you take off from everyone else like you have NOS.

TYVM for the info, it’s very much appreciated. This is exactly the kind of thing makes this site great right here.

 

[seadog777]

Had to address this piece of malarkey here. It’s very well known that a shifter + clutch grants a huge advantage in Sport Mode races that feature a N class car, with a standard transmission. While it’s rare, it’s usually a 1sec+ per lap advantage over using the paddles — and has gotten me several top20 qualifying times and Sport wins.

I wondered why some of the cars seemed to pull away quicker than others in the Sport mode races!

 

[VBR]

Thanks for that very detailed reply! It's very helpful... I will switch ffb settings around and try the and reposition my hands on the wheel (I've been more 2 and 10 o'clock position) that Mazda setup sounds like a good one, throttle control with out TCS is my biggest issue ATM... Your right about the clutch, it's terrible. I'll stick to dirt rally and AC for the stick shifting experience.

10 & 2 gives you much less control, especially when it comes to correcting oversteer, as you can't turn the wheel as fast as you can with 9 & 3. When your hands are at direct opposite sides of the wheel, you can steer very fast & catch slides much better. Keeping your thumbs in the holes, relax your fingers so they're hardly touching the wheel, & that way you can turn a lot more quickly & easily.

Had to address this piece of malarkey here. It’s very well known that a shifter + clutch grants a huge advantage in Sport Mode races that feature a N class car, with a standard transmission. While it’s rare, it’s usually a 1sec+ per lap advantage over using the paddles — and has gotten me several top20 qualifying times and Sport wins.

What I wrote was not "malarkey" as you put it, the clutch model in GT Sport is poor, & lots of people get too many mis-shifts which are aggravating. Your argument that you're faster in certain cars with it, I don't doubt that it's true. However, my argument had nothing to do with whether it was faster or not, just that it was poorly modeled.

 

[Pigems]

10 & 2 gives you much less control, especially when it comes to correcting oversteer, as you can't turn the wheel as fast as you can with 9 & 3. When your hands are at direct opposite sides of the wheel, you can steer very fast & catch slides much better. Keeping your thumbs in the holes, relax your fingers so they're hardly touching the wheel, & that way you can turn a lot more quickly & easily.




What I wrote was not "malarkey" as you put it, the clutch model in GT Sport is poor, & many people get too many mis-shifts which are aggravating. Your strawman argument that you're faster in certain cars with it, I don't doubt that it's true. However, my argument had nothing to do with whether it was faster or not, just that it was poorly modeled.

The entire point of a racing game is to go faster though, so wonky clutch or not, it’s still faster to use a shifter in certain cars. Plus, if you don’t doubt that it’s true, which I provided video evidence of it being true, why would you call it strawman? Facts are facts, and it’s faster, it’s not a debate.

 

[VBR]

The entire point of a racing game is to go faster though, so wonky clutch or not, it’s still faster to use a shifter in certain cars.

Again, I have never said that it wasn't faster. Merely repeating a red herring/strawman argument again only serves to make it twice as pointless.

 

[Pigems]

Again, I have never said that it wasn't faster. Merely repeating a red herring/strawman argument again only serves to make it twice as pointless.

So, because YOU get too many mis shifts it becomes a strawman?

 

[VBR]

So, because YOU get too many mis shifts it becomes a strawman?

 

[Pigems]

Well then explain away man, your the one throwing out the strawman word and then not backing it up with anything, not me.

 

[VBR]

Well then explain away man, your the one throwing out the strawman word, not me.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/logical-fallacies.380596/


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[L_Kesan]

Switch between games, even back an forth between console and PC, try and set yourself favourite track, test all car layouts(FF,FR,RR,MR,AWD-Mid engine AWD-Front engine) notice differences analyse it in your head, once you pick your favourites put some endurance races on try and go for consistency

Buddy up with someone you can have a friendly chat with, stay positive as that made my experience absolutely amazing.
I only own g29 which is an entry level sim wheel but my good friend has one as well and we can have races bumper to bumper on any game we choose to play and have a blast doing so.

Definitely recommend the less simulator games to begin with such as forza7, GTsport, project cars 2 - I had my fair share of fun on these and I keep playing. Once i started playing pc2 i got better at gran turismo. headphones are preferable as it removes any clunky noise your wheel may or may not be making=better concentration and shifting. I don't know your setup but make sure you sit as you would in [comfy]car.
So, rip a seat out of your wifes car and bolt it together mate have fun!

 

[Pigems]

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/logical-fallacies.380596/


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That link has absolutely nothing to do with a shifter, great rebuttal. 👍

 

[VBR]

That link has absolutely nothing to do with a shifter, great rebuttal. 👍

Life's to short to engage in pointless arguments with people like you. Welcome to my ignore list, missing you already!

 

[Pigems]

Life's to short to engage in pointless arguments with people like you. Welcome to my ignore list, missing you already!

Sweet, my very first one!! Enjoy being slower.