I don't agree with this at all. For various reasons.
1. Just because someone is fast on a setup, doesn't mean it's going to make someone else faster. The car is going to behave differently that may not be to the tastes of the said setup borrower.
True, but I don't see the relevance to point that setups increase the ultimate pace of the car, whether individual drivers can use specific advantages a car might have is a different matter and can't be accounted for when setting a level playing field.
2. There are people who don't have good Driver ability that win a lot simply because they use the most favorable car suited for the current track.
And? That option is available to everyone, it is a choice to pick a slower car, there isn't a choice however to pick the best setup.
There are races in the dailies where you can beat out the field or stay in the top 8 as long as you stay on the track.
Again, why does that matter? Driving ability isn't just about being fast you know, being consistent and staying on track is just as much down to your skill as going quickly is.
3. I really don't understand the whole concept behind "tunes make the car faster or create an unfair advantage" It sounds no different than the "Wheel users are faster by default" or "wheel users have way more advantages than a DS4 user" A wheel itself doesn't make a driver faster, just like tunes won't AUTOMATICALLY make everyone a different/faster driver.
Setups do make the car faster, it's a simple fact, that is the sole purpose of changing the setup to make the car go faster, or more specifically to make an individual driver go faster in the car. Now not every "fast tune" will make every driver faster, but I think that's trying to find a single example to counter
the general point that setups makes cars and drivers go faster and gives them not and unfair advantage, but one that has nothing to do with their driving ability.
To continue..
There are people who get on the top leaderboards who are all for tuning. So because I want tuning, I'm using a cop out plea to not practice?? I practice a lot actually. Sometimes I'll strictly go to qualifying and lap for two races.. Just like everyone isn't good with custom setups or won't have the time to make setups, everyone isn't good with stock setups and it doesn't fit their driving style. But I guess I should suck it up and get good at driving stock tunes because that's what I feel like you just implied.
Or course there are! Top drivers and well any driver really are always looking for any advantage they can to beat other drivers, my argument is to keep it as much down to driving ability as possible, yours seems to be that you don't care.
And yes, just because a default setup doesn't suit your driving style it is a cop out to change the setup, instead you should learn to adapt to the setup and use any setup to it's maximum potential as it will help you in the long run.
How can you even attempt to insinuate they are irrelevant?
Because it has nothing to do with whether tuning should be allowed or not. As I've said before personally I'd be perfectly fine with driving aids being restricted, it wouldn't really bother me, but allowing them has a lot less of an impact than allowing tuning, especially as most driving aids will slow you down. The only argument where driving aids would be of any relevance to allowing tuning is "if driving aids are allowed then so should tuning or anything else that reduces the emphasis on the drivers ability" and that is a stupid argument.
Some people in order to be competitive do not want to have to be forced to choose 3 or 4 different cars on a circuit out of a total of 12 -15 cars that are actually made available to race within the class by the game because PD sets a base tune on some cars that are much better than others.
Well that's a sacrifice you're going to have to make until they either remove multi-make races or improve the BoP to the point that all cars are competitive. The latter is far more likely to happen and every update they get closer and closer so as time goes by you will have more and more choice. Ideally they would BoP for every circuit but that's a lot more time consuming so I doubt they ever will.
No, allowing tuning is a cop out out for someone with your attitude that apparently does not want to invest the time to understand how tuning a car is a critical and realistically normal part of racing just because you do not like it.
That makes no sense whatsoever. How can tuning be a cop out for someone who doesn't want to spend the time to tune? Did you mean not allowing tuning is a cop out for those people because that would make a lot more sense. I mean it's still wrong, but it would make sense anyway. The reason it's wrong is because if you know the right people it requires no effort at all to setup the car which brings me onto this.
I am not afraid of the challenge but apparently you must be.
Allowing tuning wouldn't have an effect on me at all, in fact it would help me out if anything because I talk with a lot of the fastest people on the game and getting a good setup wouldn't be too difficult for me to do. So I'm not afraid of the challenge of setting up a car, I'm arguing against it on the principle that sport mode aims to rate you on your driving ability and that as few outside factors as possible should effect that rating. Tuning has nothing to do with driving ability and significantly reduces the emphasis on it so shouldn't be allowed. I can understand some exceptions to keep it fun such as driving aids and different cars, but their effects on the outcomes of races should be limited as much as possible if they are put in at all and ideally should mostly be a benefit based on driver preference and not to ultimate pace. Tuning at the very least dramatically increases the ultimate pace of the car/driver so again shouldn't be allowed. Tuning does also benefit based on driver preferences though so I wouldn't even be massively against having a handful of different default setups to choose from, although as I said before don't want to over complicate things and ideally you would want all potential advantages to be visible just as car choice and driver aid choice is.
