Gran Turismo 6 Sounds (With a Sound System)

[Prenihility]

What the hell did i just read?

Dude, every car you've listed, are amongst the cars that sound proper. Go drive some more vehicles...

A sound system doesn't change the sound, at all. The actual physical sound, and sound QUALITY are two completely different things.

The majority of the cars cars sound like ass. They sound incorrect, they sound disastrous. Face-palm disastrous.

I'm just trying to figure out if i perhaps may have misunderstood the op.

The only thing that will improve the sounds, are the developers, via patching.

I happen to have a great stereo setup. Doesn't matter if you're listening through your TV speakers, or a proper sound system. It changes sound QUALITY, it doesn't change the actual sound.

Am i missing something?

 

[89FC3S]

Be advised, in game back ground music is seriously attenuated when using the Large or Small Theater option from within GT6, hopefully, they fix this at some point soon, but the game sound effects are just so much better.

During the race open the quick menu. In there you can re-adjust the background music volume up and the race sounds down a bit. I find that the living room setting is too tame and the theater setting too aggressive. I set to small theater in the main optoin menu, then made adjustments in the race menu to my taste and it's fine now.

 

[89FC3S]

What the hell did i just read?

Dude, every car you've listed, are amongst the cars that sound proper. Go drive some more vehicles...

A sound system doesn't change the sound, at all. The actual physical sound, and sound QUALITY are two completely different things.

The majority of the cars cars sound like ass. They sound incorrect, they sound disastrous. Face-palm disastrous.

I'm just trying to figure out if i perhaps may have misunderstood the op.

The only thing that will improve the sounds, are the developers, via patching.

I happen to have a great stereo setup. Doesn't matter if you're listening through your TV speakers, or a proper sound system. It changes sound QUALITY, it doesn't change the actual sound.

Am i missing something?

I don't think anyone is saying that a good sound setup is going to make the game development sound aspect better, but that it significantly enhances the sound available. They're two independent things, fully agree. I think we're more saying that you need both parts of the equation.

 

[Prenihility]

I don't think anyone is saying that a good sound setup is going to make the game development sound aspect better, but that it significantly enhances the sound available. They're two independent things, fully agree. I think we're more saying that you need both parts of the equation.

Oh, ok. Yeah, sure. Whatever.

But that's kind of a moot point. Doesn't need mentioning if you ask me.

 

[ucwepn]

i have a decent sound system with 5.1 (mordaunt short fronts, wharfedale rears running from pioneer receiver) get ready to be disappointed... GT5 sounded better

 

[andy0a]

What the hell did i just read?

Dude, every car you've listed, are amongst the cars that sound proper. Go drive some more vehicles...

A sound system doesn't change the sound, at all. The actual physical sound, and sound QUALITY are two completely different things.

The majority of the cars cars sound like ass. They sound incorrect, they sound disastrous. Face-palm disastrous.

I'm just trying to figure out if i perhaps may have misunderstood the op.

The only thing that will improve the sounds, are the developers, via patching.

I happen to have a great stereo setup. Doesn't matter if you're listening through your TV speakers, or a proper sound system. It changes sound QUALITY, it doesn't change the actual sound.

Am i missing something?

I'm not actually mentioning anything about how the actual vehicle sound changes, in the way like it sounds like an inline 4 through the tv, and a v8 with a sound system. I discussed and wanted to get feedback on how in my exact words, the overall experience and sound changed for those that do have sound systems.

I'm not blasting your points at all because you brought up points that I agree with in how some cars should sound better and the direction that PD is taking in the audio department is not the right one.

This thread is more about the sound quality changing the experience and improving or unimproving the game. If a stereo setup did change the actual sound, I would've went out and bought some fancy 11.1 Dolby Super Ultra Surround System so even Civics sound like Ferrari's.

 

[89FC3S]

Pt1 "A sound system doesn't change the sound, at all."
Pt2 "Doesn't need mentioning if you ask me."

Pt1 andy0a and I are going to have to take our surround systems back for a refund I guess.
Pt2 I wasn't asking you.

 

[Dragonwhisky]

During the race open the quick menu. In there you can re-adjust the background music volume up and the race sounds down a bit. I find that the living room setting is too tame and the theater setting too aggressive. I set to small theater in the main optoin menu, then made adjustments in the race menu to my taste and it's fine now.

I have the BGM Menu and Replay volume levels to max. With each output level, Living Room, Small and Large Theater the back ground music isn't as loud as it use to be in GT5. The Living room is loudest with Small and Large Theater next to nothing. I've have to turn my main receiver volume up to over 50% to hear it much. As I recall, GT5 had another volume slider that you could take to 200 and was required to actually hear your personal BGM. GT6 doesn't have that particular function and both my personal BGM and the GT6 back ground music is highly attenuated. Exiting out of the game and playing the music from the XMB produces levels I am used to and I find acceptable. I shouldn't have to turn my gear up to 90% to hear the music either I or they have picked out.

 

[Sier_Pinski]

Headphones user here (Sony Wireless Stereo Headset).

I'm hoping what I'm hearing is similar to what a surround system sounds like. I'm definitely getting improvements on the bass, particularly on the Mercedes cars.

 

[andy0a]

Headphones user here (Sony Wireless Stereo Headset).

I'm hoping what I'm hearing is similar to what a surround system sounds like. I'm definitely getting improvements on the bass, particularly on the Mercedes cars.

You need to use a Ford GT40 or a Cobra. Some of the Ferrari's have this lovely rumble noise in the lower revs. These cars will test out your bass!

 

[Prenihility]

Pt1 andy0a and I are going to have to take our surround systems back for a refund I guess.
Pt2 I wasn't asking you.

You... DO understand what i'm saying, right? Having a sound system doesn't CHANGE the sound of the GT500 from sounding like a sewing machine to a 5.8L V8.

 

[GTPM118]

Well, after reading the OP I was curious about this, at least for me Small Theater option made the trick, just as DragonWhisky said. On the default option I was too disapointed with those sounds. Now they sound better at least the bass sound much better, still room for improvement.

 

[andy0a]

You... DO understand what i'm saying, right? Having a sound system doesn't CHANGE the sound of the GT500 from sounding like a sewing machine to a 5.8L V8.

Although you aren't speaking to me, I get your point and I agree with it. The point of this forum is not to discuss how sound systems change engine displacements from 2.0 to 6.0 liter engine noises. Its about how having a sound system makes playing GT6 more fulfilling and how it doesn't give your ear as much gripes as playing it through the TV

 

[RC45]

I agree, lol some people would be better off writing yellow journalism for Fox News, but dang 7.1? Thats quite impressive, a symphony of cylinder banks around you.

Your attempt at humour? Now that your political affiliation can be determined, it is easily explained why your points are mostly dull.

Off to find the ignore button.

 

[BIGBEN]

I've had my Logitech 5.1 system since GT3 (2002) it has a massive sub and the surround quality has been second to none. I've always scratched my head at all the audio complaints, but I figured it was due to the lack of a good s-system.

Mine is the Z-680 which I think I payed $250 for at bestbuy back in the day. It's got optical, aux, hphone jack, wireless remote, thx, dd, dts... all the stuff modern systems come with today minus the bluetooth. I think a new version came out around 07' called the z-5500 which is just the 680 with newer cosmetics. I can't recommend this thing enough, I've had so many people tell me how much better it sounds than their high dollar systems. Including my bosses $4000 home theater. The fact that I'm using mine after nearly 12 years is testament to the quality. Be careful with the sub though, turn it up to high and you might rattle the dishes out of you neighbors cabinet.

 

[andy0a]

Your attempt at humour? Now that your political affiliation can be determined, it is easily explained why your points are mostly dull.

Off to find the ignore button.

I'm straying off topic with the forum thread, but thats quite a gigantic assumption. I apologize if my "humor" isn't funny enough, I'm sorry, I thought this was a forum about sound systems, not a stand up comedy show? Lol, but determining my political affiliation off of one post is quite a stretch. Its like saying your a racist and you hate mexicans because you said you don't like tacos.

We could debate about the political themes in my post. There is none. It is a joke. I could've easily said yellow journalism with any other major news syndicate. Because I chose Fox News you assume my political affiliation? Maybe I should go on the other end of the spectrum and choose MSNBC, but you would probably accuse me of being a conservative. All in all, I'm just trying to ask other people's educated opinions about GT6.

What I can't stand is when people profile me based on one single comment. You aren't me, I'm not you, so lets try not to act like you know me, because I sure as heck don't know you. No hard feelings.

Now can we get back to the thread... Please!

 

[led86]

From what I have experienced of the sounds in GT6 so far, I have to say that things have improved somewhat from GT5 on some cars. I haven't played either of these two versions without my proper home theater system though, so I can't comment on how the quality would change without it. But, I did play GT2, GT3, and GT4 on lesser systems, GT2 and 3 on just TV speaker sound, and the sounds that are carried over from those old games, yes there are a lot carried over, are just as horrible on the big expensive system as they were on the TV speakers. There is also the fact that many of the engine sounds lack the proper depth to make use of a proper home theater system. By proper home theater system, I am referring to one put together from full size speakers with real amps, not these crappy "home theater in a box" systems that claim 1000 watts of power. My entire system has a rating of a bit north of 700 watts max power and it will blow away any "1000 watt" box system any day of the week with much higher fidelity.

Some food for thought here. I have played Forza 4 on this exactly home theater setup. The difference between GT6 and a game as old as Forza 4 is night and day. Its immediately apparent that the sound clips in Forza are a ton better than anything PD has ever put into GT.

One other thing, I find at times, even in GT6, the sound is not always placed properly within the surround sound system. Why when I'm in the cockpit view do I have front engine sound coming from behind me as if I'm in bumper view? It should be divided into exhaust note behind me, and engine sound in front...

 

[andy0a]

From what I have experienced of the sounds in GT6 so far, I have to say that things have improved somewhat from GT5 on some cars. I haven't played either of these two versions without my proper home theater system though, so I can't comment on how the quality would change without it. But, I did play GT2, GT3, and GT4 on lesser systems, GT2 and 3 on just TV speaker sound, and the sounds that are carried over from those old games, yes there are a lot carried over, are just as horrible on the big expensive system as they were on the TV speakers. There is also the fact that many of the engine sounds lack the proper depth to make use of a proper home theater system. By proper home theater system, I am referring to one put together from full size speakers with real amps, not these crappy "home theater in a box" systems that claim 1000 watts of power. My entire system has a rating of a bit north of 700 watts max power and it will blow away any "1000 watt" box system any day of the week with much higher fidelity.

Some food for thought here. I have played Forza 4 on this exactly home theater setup. The difference between GT6 and a game as old as Forza 4 is night and day. Its immediately apparent that the sound clips in Forza are a ton better than anything PD has ever put into GT.

One other thing, I find at times, even in GT6, the sound is not always placed properly within the surround sound system. Why when I'm in the cockpit view do I have front engine sound coming from behind me as if I'm in bumper view? It should be divided into exhaust note behind me, and engine sound in front...

I wish I had Forza 4 to test out on this sound system, so the best I can do is to wait for PD's post sound patch. The sound does cut out for me, but not in cockpit or bumper views, it cuts out during replays. When the cars supposed to fly by and you expect it to sound the loudest, it cuts out. The engine noise in replay's doesn't gradually sound less the farther the car is away, its just dead quiet.

 

[Vegard]

Gran Turismo sound engine - Very good.
Gran Turismo engine sounds - Very poor (A lot of cars score 0 for authenticity).

The better sound system you have, the more clearly you can hear the poor sample quality.

 

[SirWaWa]

I thought everyone knew by now tv speakers suck, especially when ps3 can output DTS/DD5.1/7.1

 

[Kratos_Q8]

i dont hear any difference except for louder sounds so

TV : 4/10
SS: 4/10

 

[xfullboost]

Your attempt at humour? Now that your political affiliation can be determined, it is easily explained why your points are mostly dull.

Off to find the ignore button.

sick burn! 👍

 

[crasherkid]

Sorry for bumping such an old thread.

Other day I was messing around in the options menu in GT6 and realised my sound was set to "2 channel stereo".
Now I have a full 5.1 surround system which includes Monitor Audio RX6/RX Center and RXFX surrounds going into a Yamaha RX-V3067 receiver and a BK XXLS400 sub.

The separation of sound on GT5 was phenomenal, like when watching cars drive past the sound would really travel in the direction where the car was going ie, front left speaker to rear right speaker etc. The dynamic range was just fantastic and really accurate.
In GT6 when I changed it to small theatre>5.1 channel surround, the separation is really really poor.
It's like standard dolby digital in terms of sound coming out of each 5 speakers all at once and hardly any dynamic range at all.
It's like watching a movie with all 5 speakers constantly in use at all times instead of the rear speakers becoming active only when needed to during certain scenes.

 

[John_Marsten]

When I played GT6, I played with optical sound running through a 7.2 Sony Muteki Suuround sound system. GT still sounds like garbage.

In fact IMO, it is still the worst sounding car game/series I have played. Dont get me wrong, some cars sound pretty cool (NASCAR, The Red Devil, The Art Morrson corvette, as a whole though GT sound is horrible.

And whats with that tyre screech?

I am comparing this to:
Forza 1,2,3,4
iRacing
rFactor
Race 07
Shift 2
TDU 1,2
Assetto Corsa
NFS Hot pursuit.

 

[Le_Manuz]

i don't know where it comes from but i have cut all kind of music in gt6 and kept only in game car sounds
when in menus there must be no noise but i still hear some strange ones,
like if someone is playing with a ball or walking onto a wood floor

 

[scholesy1899]

i don't know where it comes from but i have cut all kind of music in gt6 and kept only in game car sounds
when in menus there must be no noise but i still hear some strange ones,
like if someone is playing with a ball or walking onto a wood floor

Get the Ghostbusters, your house is haunted.

 

[BrodieBoi94]

I have a logitec surround sound setup with the 10in (i think) sub. I personally believe that if you want the best engine sounds, you should stick to premiums. I dont know if anyone else has tried this experiment, but if you go on youtube, there is a gold mine of cars doing pulls.

This is a good way to check engine sound realism. I read in a thread somewhere about how "terrible" the 97t sounded and literally five minites ago i cross referenced the sounds from the game with a video on youtube, and they did an excellent job with it imo.

I know youtube is far from real life but it still can give an accurate comparison. Even driving the 97t notice how the engine sound differentiates based on how much the throttle is open...