Gran Turismo 7 Update 1.55 is Coming January 30th

[ZedNinetySix]

I like the update, the rest of the cars are great.

The C-HR just seems so uninspired.
Look, I'm all for cheap pooboxes, but the C-HR doesn't fit in that catagory either, and give it a month or so after the update, and you may never see anyone driving one of these online ever again.

We cant pretend they didn't put vast resources into modelling it/licensing.

 

[Canada_25]

As much as I hate the CH-R in real life or anything of this type, I kinda like it here. I mean, this is part of Gran Turismo's charm.

 

[Tommy_D]

I can dig the CHR, especially if it has an engine swap available. A 3S-GTE swap from the MR2 should make the car quite the fun pocket rocket.

But if Polyphony is to do anything, it needs to fix its current physics. High downforce gars get terrible shaking at higher speeds for anyone who plays with a wheel. The lower downforce cars have no steering feel at all unless you put racing tires on them. The basic tire modeling/physics has made the cars have almost no grip even with sports tires on the cars. They should just revert back to the previous physics modeling. I think they had it right back then. The current physics are awful.

 

[ruestchiva]

Good thing there's 3 other potentially interesting cars in this update you conveniently excluded to be overdramatic.

Well, it took them 9 months to make this car. A whole baby was developed and born and this stupid car came out like "you all getting what you asked for!"

 

[HarVee]

615 / 5.000
71 / 5,000
I mean, I was able to drive a lot of cars in GT 1, GT 2, GT 3 and maybe GT 4 that were current at the time. In GT 7 there are just 20 normal cars from the last 5 years. All the others are older. Station wagons are completely missing, as are concept cars. Why is there no Nike One 2022, Renault Espace Formula 1, Audi RS6, Volvo V90, Ford Mondeo, Cupra cars, BMW 850i or the dragsters from the first and second GT?
There is so much that is still missing but the main thing is a few old cars.
What is the point of dwelling on the past?
Most of the cars are already vintage today.

And in 25 more years the latest car models we see today will be considered classic. Not sure i understand your point here. Sounds like you're just farting in the wind.

 

[Pilot625]

I think you never played a gran turismo before. You are looking for something thst is not gran turismo

I don’t even know what that is supposed to mean. I’ve played every GT ever made since day 1.

We are long over due for a purpose made track. Silverstone was prominent in the very movie with the game’s namesake. The greatest F1 car ever designed is in the game.

Whatever you are insinuating is completely off base.

 

[Com Fox]

I’ve play every GT ever made since day 1.

Then why are saying fictional race cars don't belong when they have been a staple since GT1?

Also on the race track point, the cause is licensing and pricing however it is not as simple as just paying more money. I'm sure PD could but that opens a Pandoras Box for every other track to go "you paid Silverstone this much, why can't I have that much?" the budget will just spiral out of control.

 

[Pilot625]

Then why are saying fictional race cars don't belong when they have been a staple since GT1?

Also on the race track point, the cause is licensing and pricing however it is not as simple as just paying more money. I'm sure PD could but that opens a Pandoras Box for every other track to go "you paid Silverstone this much, why can't I have that much?" the budget will just spiral out of control.

Where did I write they don’t belong?

You are assuming a lot of business practices and licensing agreements that you have no clue about. I get this is the internet and everyone has an opinion but that isn’t based on any facts. The only world wide track that has sold an exclusive license for likeness in a virtual space is Monaco.

 

[Com Fox]

Where did I write they don’t belong?

Adding a fake 90s F1 car is making a mockery of the best racing simulator.

Maybe saying they don't belong is a poor assumption but they are by no means a mockery when its been the staple of GTs history to have fictional race cars

 

[Pilot625]

Maybe saying they don't belong is a poor assumption but they are by no means a mockery when its been the staple of GTs history to have fictional race cars

The staple of GT history is having real life cars both road and race for people to enjoy who wouldn’t otherwise get to.

The only reason they have used fake F1 cars is because FOM won’t sell their likeness. However, historical F1 cars like the MP 4/4 arn’t under the ownership of FOM. That has been a recent change when Liberty Media bought F1.

Regardless everyone has a price and I guarantee RB would sell the likeness of the RB19 to PD considering their history together.

 

[Famine]

Silverstone was prominent in the very movie with the game’s namesake.

Silverstone's licensing fee is also (reportedly) extremely high.

everyone has a price

That they do. Sometimes it's just far, far too high to be acceptable. That's why we don't have the DeltaWing any more, and why we've never had SCG.

 

[Jerome77]

My goodness. Another update that leaves GT fans wanting better quality. These updates are genuinely disappointing. What should have been a celebration of the Gran Turismo series, PD continues to add lackluster content; the last track updates really should have been day 1 content. What happened to Tokyo R246? Apricot Hill? Montegi? Silverstone? And what of their collaboration/partnership with IMSA, not even one iota of a brand new track. I'll even take any variation of the Rome circuits at this point. Poor, just poor.

To me, PD really appear to be stretching out this game as much as possible, and imo at the expense of the thousands of players who can do nothing but hope for better content. Where are the racing cars both classic and new? Where are the multiplayer updates; why don't we have the GT Sport option of seeing which races are in practice mode so we don't end up wasting time trying to find races we can actually join?

A different game GT Sport may have been, but surely PD could have imported some of the best features into GT7. Whilst the core game is good, there are just little things, some of which I've mentioned above that do this 25 year celebration no justice whatsoever. At this point, there isn't really anything special about GT7; same tracks, more cars some of which are easily forgotten about.

One thing I do really wish for is that other developers do more to rival and surpass the Gran Turismo series. Wishful thinking, I know, but PD need serious competition to improve their product.

 

[sirjim73]

Where did I write they don’t belong?

You are assuming a lot of business practices and licensing agreements that you have no clue about. I get this is the internet and everyone has an opinion but that isn’t based on any facts. The only world wide track that has sold an exclusive license for likeness in a virtual space is Monaco.

Silverstone's licensing fee is also (reportedly) extremely high.

That they do. Sometimes it's just far, far too high to be acceptable. That's why we don't have the DeltaWing any more, and why we've never had SCG.

@Pilot625 Every track included in Grid 2019 was also included in Grid Legends 2022 except for one. Can you guess which one and why it was not included?

Most of us would like to see Silverstone in GT7, (more tracks are always welcome, although some people would prefer the resources put to a different track) but at this stage of the game's life cycle that's surely unlikely to happen unless there's a deal made to bundle licensing for the track for GT7 and "GT8" into one price?

Nothing wrong with wanting more though, and if they want to keep player engagement going, they need to get the right balance.

 

[Com Fox]

The staple of GT history is having real life cars both road and race for people to enjoy who wouldn’t otherwise get to.

The only reason they have used fake F1 cars is because FOM won’t sell their likeness. However, historical F1 cars like the MP 4/4 arn’t under the ownership of FOM. That has been a recent change when Liberty Media bought F1.

Regardless everyone has a price and I guarantee RB would sell the likeness of the RB19 to PD considering their history together.

There is not 1 staple. Fictional Race Cars are just as important as the real ones. Both as a unique selling point you can never get elsewhere, help serve more purpose in the game, avoid licensing issues and open more customisation options with player interpretation. (Iirc the Mercedes F1 in GT Sport cannot have its livery changed and was almost exclusive in one make races lile the Ferrari F1 was in GT5)

You are assuming a lot of business practices and licensing agreements that you have no clue about. I get this is the internet and everyone has an opinion but that isn’t based on any facts. The only world wide track that has sold an exclusive license for likeness in a virtual space is Monaco.

And you do? No one knows as almost all licensing agreements are beyond close doors and are all different. It is all speculation but pricing is I think the most likely issue with the Silverstone license

 

[venom85]

And in 25 more years the latest car models we see today will be considered classic. Not sure i understand your point here. Sounds like you're just farting in the wind.

Maybe I didn’t express myself clearly enough. When I started with GT1, I was 13 or 14 years old and mostly drove cars in GT that were current at the time. For example, I could drive my grandpa's Peugeot 406 or the Audi S4 of a family friend.

With GT7, however, most of the same cars are still there, and instead of introducing modern vehicles available on the market with the updates, I’m getting a Honda from the 80s for the 4th or 5th time.

I don’t have anything against classics in general, but if they keep going in this direction, they might as well call GT8 "GT Historic" or "GT Classic."

 

[ScottPuss20]

People who call this "worst update ever" really have short memory, huh? And it's not like it is due to the long wait, since these two also came after long breaks (Christmas 2023 and summer 2022)...

This update was soo bad it made me come back to Gran Turismo after playing Forza Motorsport for a little bit.

Also on the race track point, the cause is licensing and pricing however it is not as simple as just paying more money. I'm sure PD could but that opens a Pandoras Box for every other track to go "you paid Silverstone this much, why can't I have that much?" the budget will just spiral out of control.

Yeah this is the problem that I brought up here before in regards to Lotus. I don't think GT want to return to the negotiating table for other tracks that they fought tooth and nail to get... Spa being one of them. As GT is not directly affiliated with a championship that races there, they won't have the same leverage when it comes to negotiating a contract.

 

[the Interceptor]

It may be a naive question, but are all update threads filled with so much negativity? I haven't been following them this closely lately.

 

[i386]

but are all update threads filled with so much negativity?

Yes.

 

[Fezzik]

It may be a naive question, but are all update threads filled with so much negativity? I haven't been following them this closely lately.

Yes. Like clockwork, the silhouettes drop and the moaners appear.

 

[Lomic]

the moaners appear.

Some are permanent features though 😅

 

[the Interceptor]

Yes. Like clockwork, the silhouettes drop and the moaners appear.

Still they stay with the game, so in a sense they are remoaners.

 

[Islaygaz]

It may be a naive question, but are all update threads filled with so much negativity? I haven't been following them this closely lately.

Yes. Like clockwork, the silhouettes drop and the moaners appear.

Not to mention the “GT7 is dead based on this update!” People!

 

[Doncarlone]

It may be a naive question, but are all update threads filled with so much negativity? I haven't been following them this closely lately.

Depends on the cars. In the last update, 3 out of the 5 cars in the update (ford escort, awd porsche 911 and mercedes w196) were received very positively.

 

[VXR]

It is similar but there are differences too. The diagonal lines on the hood do not rejoin the corners of the windshield on the silhouette, and the white part on the front of this diagonal "panel" would get larger if it was the Afla, instead of finishing on a single point

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I'm convinced now of this. Even the highlights of the real car are represented in the same way on the silhouette.

 

[mynameis66]

Not to mention the “GT7 is dead based on this update!” People!

Dont forget the..`there holding back content for GT8..`people as well. 👍

 

[GlamFM]

It may be a naive question, but are all update threads filled with so much negativity? I haven't been following them this closely lately.

Welcome to the internet. I'll be your guide.

 

[hawkeyez]

Meh, two ok cars. F3500 and the Civic. Maybe this will be the civic I actually drive. lol

 

[newmedia_dev]

I live with a false hope that will end in disappointment but with the Sport Mode DR changes that sport mode will finally get some much need love and updating in a spec II fashion.

We live in hope....

 

[Fezzik]

Hope is the denial of reality. We got grid starts - that's your spec II.

 

[CTznOfTime]

Silverstone's licensing fee is also (reportedly) extremely high.

That they do. Sometimes it's just far, far too high to be acceptable. That's why we don't have the DeltaWing any more, and why we've never had SCG.

Honest question, especially aimed at those in charge of Silverstone and other tracks around the world, who potentially roam around here...:

Isn't there a common in interest in having your tracks featured virtually , especially on one of the most popular and well designed and well received video games ?

I understand from a legal and financial standpoint you want to have licenses set up and be compensated for being featured, but at the same time:
Aren't you doing more harm to yourself and to the community at large by holding back ...

It serves no real purpose to prevent more people from accessing what is seen as a public service (most likely the wrong word choice here).... But I think and hope you understand what I am trina get at .



The more exposure you get virtually or socially, the better attention you will get and appreciation from the public, in education and respect you will get and the more publicity you get for live events in the real track ? No ?

I would imagine licensing wouldn't get you as much money as live events in the actual track no ?

At what point does a virtual tracks becomes a bigger business than the real track itself ?
If so, then why not just license fictive tracks instead of having real track to manage....

Maybe the community here should star creating fictive tracks and sell the license back to PD and Kaz lol 😀


I am here just trying to point out some counter intuitive decisions made that are hurting more society at large than it necessarily needs to be ...

Why hold back , for marginal gains?!
Pride or ego ?

How about betterment and enjoyment of society ?
Money can't surely buy everything, and even if it was the case, why go that route?
Or am I just a hopeless eternal romantic?