Gran Turismo 7’s March Update is Coming Next Week with Three New Cars

[MroczMR]

but a Kangoo is way more "Gran Turismo".

maybe this will be unpopular, but to be honest every car is Gran Turismo. This is the game which gathers together all kind of car enthusiasts, kangoo fans, newest hypercars, jdm cars or race cars.

There is literally no car which won’t fit to GT game.

Gran Turismo 4 was more like that. So many cars in the game, they could afford to have just the one make, but that included like twelve trims of the one car! We also got the M car events, Alfa events and the Pleiades races and Boxer engine races. Stuff that PD could be reusing now. I can’t believe we still don’t have a Straight-Six Contingent race.

As for possible events for GT7, we have enough for PD to utilise different types of cars.

We have four vans in the game:

• HiMedic
• HiAce
• Alphard
• Samba Bus

Add the Kangoo and there’s definitely a van themed event.

We have six “SUVs” in the game:

• Urus
• C-HR
• Ioniq N
• Jimny XC
• Jimny Sierra
• Willys

Add the possible CX-30 to the list.

Biggest group of non sports coupes, hot hatches and hypercars are the Non-racing/Non-Safety sedans:

• DS21
• 190 E
• Crown
• WRX STI ‘14
• WRX STI ‘04
• Lancer EVO III
• Lancer EVO IV
• Lancer EVO V
• Lancer EVO VI
• Lancer EVO VIII
• Lancer EVO IX
• Lancer EVO X
• Hellcat
• Model 3
• Taycan
• AFEELA
• RX-8
• G70
• Giulia GTAm

Only two pick up trucks(now three) and those have had their own events since the start.
Gran Turismo 2 and 4 had the best events for different types of cars. The wagon races, super saloon(something like that) races, races with all convertibles in the game. Cool stuff.

Imagine Mum Cup 400

 

[Famine]

There is literally no car which won’t fit to GT game.

Probably true, but GT has always had this core of "cars you might have actually driven" (or been driven around in), right from the first one, with variously attainable aspirationals to graduate to and then maybe some racing cars. While it's leaned more into the exotics and racers even since the second one, they've never left those cars behind. It's part of what makes GT what it is; you might get a couple of vehicles like that in other titles that have a real-world bent, but they're far more about the less-attainable aspirationals and racing cars.

Even discounting the Japanese love for the Kangoo, there's going to be way more people with a personal connection to the Kangoo and the CX-30 compared to the Vantage. Probably more than a few who grew up hating being taken to school in it when other parents were driving posh-badged things, but still...

Although I think from the silhouette it's a panel van, not the MPV.

 

[Nakano219]

maybe this will be unpopular, but to be honest every car is Gran Turismo. This is the game which gathers together all kind of car enthusiasts, kangoo fans, newest hypercars, jdm cars or race cars.

There is literally no car which won’t fit to GT game.


Imagine Mum Cup 400

I'd say most cars fit into GT. There are definitely extreme examples that don't work though.

As an example, I don't think electric race cars fit well in the series yet, as seen by the ID.R. The short battery life doesn't mesh with the fuel multipliers seen in all the racing car events so you can't use them in the career, and they're also limited to one-makes in custom races so user creativity is also very limited.

Now, could PD rectify that by giving them a place to be used? Absolutely. But as of right now there's just not a whole lot they can do in the game.

 

[Talon16]

Probably true, but GT has always had this core of "cars you might have actually driven" (or been driven around in), right from the first one, with variously attainable aspirationals to graduate to and then maybe some racing cars. While it's leaned more into the exotics and racers even since the second one, they've never left those cars behind. It's part of what makes GT what it is; you might get a couple of vehicles like that in other titles that have a real-world bent, but they're far more about the less-attainable aspirationals and racing cars.

Even discounting the Japanese love for the Kangoo, there's going to be way more people with a personal connection to the Kangoo and the CX-30 compared to the Vantage. Probably more than a few who grew up hating being taken to school in it when other parents were driving posh-badged things, but still...

Although I think from the silhouette it's a panel van, not the MPV.

Just playing devil's advocate here...

This is why the exotics and race cars are more entertaining to me. If I wanted to drive an everyday sedan (or something similar), I'd go into my garage and drive mine. If I want to drive a Huracan (whether the road going or GT3 version)... well, I am not fortunate enough to be able to do that. Unless I have a very rich uncle I am not aware of or win the lottery I don't play, it's likely to always be the case. That's where I 'rely' on the virtual world.

That is why the release of a CX-30 for example as no appeal to me. I see them everywhere. However, I do see why that would be the exact opposite, and have extra appeal to others. My only rebut there is within GT7, despite it being called the Real Driving Simulator vs the Real Racing Simulator, is the only place one can drive these cars is on race tracks (less, driving the Unimog around the infield of Willow or finding some other creative way to make one's own path, so to speak). I'll always see Gran Turismo as a racing game: cars are driven on race tracks; there are laps (or a countdown clock); there is a stopwatch going at all times; etc.

If there were places to cruise around it would be different. But there aren't. But racing in a Crossover like a CS-30...? I dunno, just doesn't seem like that is the intent. And yes I realize one can race anything. I used to do it in a previous life; go to track weekends (thru NASA (https://drivenasa.com/)) and you'd see everything there from gutted Civics to ACR Vipers, but mostly white-collar sports cars like 350Zs, Mustangs, S2000s, etc. It was very 'run what ya brung' and cool to see.

But, give me the things I won't be able to experience in real life. That is what I am looking for. Of course I realize that is just me. Good conversation regardless, flame suit on just in case.

 

[Famine]

But, give me the things I won't be able to experience in real life.

Unless you're a well-to-do lunatic, that would include a range of ordinary modern cars too

Aside from motoring journalists, nobody drives that many normal cars. People with the money to do so don't, because they either collect expensive ones (or fast ones) or focus on a marque. I've not seen someone with a £40m collection of B-segment hatchbacks, probably because there's nobody rich and insane enough to do so.

Like... you could go out and drive a CX-30, and a Qashqai, and a Kodiaq, and a Sportage, and a Tucson, and a Kuga, and a RAV4, and... so on, but who the smeg has? People cross-shopping CUVs might (and I have... I think), but... most people won't be doing that.

The first GT was effectively a selection of ordinary, less-ordinary, and top-tier Hondas, Mazdas, Mitsubishis, Nissans, Subarus and Toyotas - plus Aston Martin and TVR, and Dodge and Chevrolet. You did the ordinary, personal-connection stuff, and then went on to stuff you'd like to own, and stuff you'd really like to own!

Ignoring the DB7, the most expensive car in the game as-new in 1998 was a Honda NSX. Now the most-recent Honda NSX isn't even a third of the mean price of a car in GT

GT has always majored on those cars that people can have personally experienced, even if there's quite a bit of unrealistically aspirational stuff and race cars now.

 

[Talon16]

Unless you're a well-to-do lunatic, that would include a range of ordinary modern cars too

Aside from motoring journalists, nobody drives that many normal cars. People with the money to do so don't, because they either collect expensive ones (or fast ones) or focus on a marque. I've not seen someone with a £40m collection of B-segment hatchbacks, probably because there's nobody rich and insane enough to do so.

Like... you could go out and drive a CX-30, and a Qashqai, and a Kodiaq, and a Sportage, and a Tucson, and a Kuga, and a RAV4, and... so on, but who the smeg has? People cross-shopping CUVs might (and I have... I think), but... most people won't be doing that.

Ok, when I said 'experience' I didn't mean outright own or even drive. I just meant see on a daily/weekly basis. But, points taken regardless.

Everyone has their thoughts on what the game is and what they want in it. And that's fine, no one is wrong. At the end of the day, we're all still here.

 

[mastretta_mx]

Talking of this topic of variety in GT, this is just a few selection of the cars we've got on the 3 years of updates, variety is not the problem, I think hoe PD uses these assets and the tiny amount of events added each month don't make justice.

Please tell me another game from the sim/"simcade" universe with this variety of cars that is not relying on mods:

 

[Batschisane52]

I've not seen someone with a £40m collection of B-segment hatchbacks, probably because there's nobody rich and insane enough to do so.

Well not 40mio worth, but still quite insane...

The world’s greatest Volkswagen Golf collection is insane

Put together by a chimney cleaner in Austria

visor.ph

 

[Mafio]

I think a better example would be ya boy Fluffy(Gaberial Iglesias). He's 17 mill short but still

https://www.motor1.com/news/673007/...ion is what Iglesias,is worth over $3 million.

 

[Famine]

Well not 40mio worth, but still quite insane...

I think a better example would be ya boy Fluffy(Gaberial Iglesias). He's 17 mill short but still

People with the money to do so don't, because they either collect expensive ones (or fast ones) or focus on a marque.

These people definitely exist 😁

 

[Batschisane52]

I think a better example would be ya boy Fluffy(Gaberial Iglesias). He's 17 mill short but still

https://www.motor1.com/news/673007/gabriel-iglesias-eclectic-vintage-vw-bus-collection/#:~:text=The collection is what Iglesias,is worth over $3 million.

But no B-segment hatchbacks though...

 

[rsspyder21]

A step up it may be, but the 2024 car is a facelift - which is why I go on to note that I can't see any of the facelift (or V12) features and think it's the original.

There are a lot of performance upgrades on the new version, enough to consider it more than a typical mid-cycle facelift. I'm not meaning to be pedantic, just wanted to clarify the fact there are notable differences that legitimately differentiate it in the driving department from its predecessor. Hence why I said I'd be a lot more excited if the new one was selected for inclusion in the game, that's all.

 

[05XR8]

This all I care about come Thursday.

 

[Famine]

There are a lot of performance upgrades on the new version, enough to consider it more than a typical mid-cycle facelift. I'm not meaning to be pedantic, just wanted to clarify the fact there are notable differences that legitimately differentiate it in the driving department from its predecessor.

I'm sure, but the hardpoints are identical. Save for a repositioned front crossmember (moved backwards) it's the same chassis. Same engine (reworked to deliver 30% more power), same gearbox (shortened final drive), same diff (with new software). New body panels, despite the similar look (same overall width though) and very different inside too, of course, but they're all hanging off almost fundamentally the exact same car underneath.

Facelifts can be small or big. This one's on the bigger side of it, but it is a facelift nonetheless - and that's still why I refer to the car in the silhouette as the most recent iteration (2018, rather than 2005, 1992 [initially Virage Vantage, but later just Vantage], 1977, or 1972) but probably neither the later V12 nor the facelift as it lacks the features that would identify it as such.

 

[Bazool]

This is the only batmobile that matters, based on the 1955 Lincoln Futura
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This is what I'd like to see....

Holy "Amen to that" Batman !

edit - that car deserves more than a mere Link !

here's the pic

 

[OldandSlow]

Holy "Amen to that" Batman !

edit - that car deserves more than a mere Link !

here's the pic

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A Batman driver's suit would go right along with it.

 

[equalitus]

But is that really a problem though when the cars are free? It's not like you're paying for any of it.

It's a problem because we could get a better car instead. We can only get a limited amount of new cars, so it is easy factual and arithmetic truth that it is a problem and an alternative cost compared to whatever better car some of us want.

 

[RACECAR]

This all I care about come Thursday.
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Pretty much my new Project Build (Was gonna be the Camaro GT4.R, though I suppose I can still squeeze that in as well)

 

[equalitus]

They aren't different in-and-of itself. It's how they are coming to the game that is different.

If GT4 got its roster constructed three cars at a time, and you had the Nike One, one of the 1800s cars, the Chrysler Prowler and the Motor Triathlon Car in consectutive updates, people would have complained back then too.

These cars are perfectly fine to be in the game, but they aren't strong enough to carry an update. Especially recently, when updates tend to not have much else other than the car content in them.

Some cars in GT4 shouldn't be included in the first place because we cannot race them in simulation mode.

 

[rsspyder21]

I'm sure, but the hardpoints are identical. Save for a repositioned front crossmember (moved backwards) it's the same chassis. Same engine (reworked to deliver 30% more power), same gearbox (shortened final drive), same diff (with new software). New body panels, despite the similar look (same overall width though) and very different inside too, of course, but they're all hanging off almost fundamentally the exact same car underneath.

Facelifts can be small or big. This one's on the bigger side of it, but it is a facelift nonetheless - and that's still why I refer to the car in the silhouette as the most recent iteration (2018, rather than 2005, 1992 [initially Virage Vantage, but later just Vantage], 1977, or 1972) but probably neither the later V12 nor the facelift as it lacks the features that would identify it as such.

We simply seem to use the term differently. Im the editor of one of the biggest car publications on the planet and have been an automotive journalist for more than 20 years. We consider this more than what we typically call a facelift and would never refer to the 2018 version as the most recent iteration. No biggie, though.

 

[Famine]

We simply seem to use the term differently. Im the editor of one of the biggest car publications on the planet and have been an automotive journalist for more than 20 years. We consider this more than what we typically call a facelift and would never refer to the 2018 version as the most recent iteration. No biggie, though.

I'm just the editor of here and have been an automotive journalist for a mere dozen years, and chair of the largest regional group of motoring writers in the UK. I'd call an updated car with the same name sporting identical hardpoints and dimensions, minor powertrain differences (even with a big power hike!), and a handful of visual changes a facelift - whether big, like this, or small like a BMW LCI.

Perhaps it's a transatlantic thing, like the whole model year/calendar year thing...


Edit: Iterations - often called generations - of 911. of which 992 is the most recent:

Iterations - for which there isn't one specific term, but facelift/update/refresh/Phase is often used - of 992, of which 992.2 is the most recent (and 992.1 being a retronym):

So it is with the AM6 (or, as some wags may say, AMG) Vantage.

 

[05XR8]

Pretty much my new Project Build (Was gonna be the Camaro GT4.R, though I suppose I can still squeeze that in as well)

That’s the beauty of using what’s available to us.

We simply seem to use the term differently. Im the editor of one of the biggest car publications on the planet and have been an automotive journalist for more than 20 years. We consider this more than what we typically call a facelift and would never refer to the 2018 version as the most recent iteration. No biggie, though.

Not arguing with you or picking a fight. I guess I can see using “the latest iteration” in a case of the R35. If someone says they have the newest R35, that’s easy. If someone says they have an R35, okay, which one? 2007? 2025? NISMO? What year NISMO? If someone says they have the latest Nissan GT-R, that could mean any year, any facelift, any trim R35.
The R35 is the latest iteration of the Nissan GT-R. Completely different from all R34, R33, R32 GT-R. I see both points. Interesting.

 

[equalitus]

Unless you're a well-to-do lunatic, that would include a range of ordinary modern cars too

Aside from motoring journalists, nobody drives that many normal cars. People with the money to do so don't, because they either collect expensive ones (or fast ones) or focus on a marque. I've not seen someone with a £40m collection of B-segment hatchbacks, probably because there's nobody rich and insane enough to do so.

Like... you could go out and drive a CX-30, and a Qashqai, and a Kodiaq, and a Sportage, and a Tucson, and a Kuga, and a RAV4, and... so on, but who the smeg has? People cross-shopping CUVs might (and I have... I think), but... most people won't be doing that.

The first GT was effectively a selection of ordinary, less-ordinary, and top-tier Hondas, Mazdas, Mitsubishis, Nissans, Subarus and Toyotas - plus Aston Martin and TVR, and Dodge and Chevrolet. You did the ordinary, personal-connection stuff, and then went on to stuff you'd like to own, and stuff you'd really like to own!

Ignoring the DB7, the most expensive car in the game as-new in 1998 was a Honda NSX. Now the most-recent Honda NSX isn't even a third of the mean price of a car in GT

GT has always majored on those cars that people can have personally experienced, even if there's quite a bit of unrealistically aspirational stuff and race cars now.

For me it was opposite, since I started with Gran Turismo 3 & never played 1&2, it was the progression factor of upgrading cars & buying/winning [the cheapest] race/rally cars & then progressing further to harder races, it was addictive!! The slow road cars soon became boring. But because of the replayability of GT3&GT4 I tried most road cars after maxing them out. Never thought about driving, seeing, owning any of the cars in the real world!
A genuine virtual fantasy experience.

 

[rsspyder21]

I'm just the editor of here and have been an automotive journalist for a mere dozen years, and chair of the largest regional group of motoring writers in the UK. I'd call an updated car with the same name sporting identical hardpoints and dimensions, minor powertrain differences (even with a big power hike!), and a handful of visual changes a facelift - whether big, like this, or small like a BMW LCI.

Perhaps it's a transatlantic thing, like the whole model year/calendar year thing...

I'm just the editor of here and have been an automotive journalist for a mere dozen years, and chair of the largest regional group of motoring writers in the UK. I'd call an updated car with the same name sporting identical hardpoints and dimensions, minor powertrain differences (even with a big power hike!), and a handful of visual changes a facelift - whether big, like this, or small like a BMW LCI.

Perhaps it's a transatlantic thing, like the whole model year/calendar year thing...

I was merely giving you my context for my comments, not insulting you, if you thought I was. That’s why I began by saying we use or define the term differently. Again, no big deal. I do disagree that it’s accurate to call the earlier version of the car pre-“facelift” the “latest iteration.” I don’t call the 992.1 the latest iteration of the 911 for the same reason. If you do, fair enough. Main point was,I wish it was the latest Vantage in the game. But I’ll find fun driving the old one.

 

[Cayit]

3 New Cars + 3 New Events = New Update

 

[Bazool]

I'm just the editor of here and have been an automotive journalist for a mere dozen years, and chair of the largest regional group of motoring writers in the UK. I'd call an updated car with the same name sporting identical hardpoints and dimensions, minor powertrain differences (even with a big power hike!), and a handful of visual changes a facelift - whether big, like this, or small like a BMW LCI.

Perhaps it's a transatlantic thing, like the whole model year/calendar year thing...

Famine !!!.........with that CV you're just the bloke Ive been looking for , Its about the Retro remake of classic cars. Its keeping me up at night!
VW did a great job with the new Beetle over 20 years ago, BMW gave us the new Mini, and Fiat spoilt us with the Fiat 500 & Abarth but its all gone tits up with Renaults proposed version of the iconic Five, its the front end/the face/the bit your eyes are drawn to 1st, maybe square headlights might save the day ? ...........have a word mate

 

[Meythia]

As an example, I don't think electric race cars fit well in the series yet, as seen by the ID.R. The short battery life doesn't mesh with the fuel multipliers seen in all the racing car events so you can't use them in the career, and they're also limited to one-makes in custom races so user creativity is also very limited.

PD self made problem by putting the same fuel capacity on all ICE cars, then adds BEV cars, range? Ah, that is just a number we dont care about - which is why in online play refueling seems to never be an idea (at least outside of single car lineups).

VW did a great job with the new Beetle over 20 years ago, BMW gave us the new Mini, and Fiat spoilt us with the Fiat 500 & Abarth but its all gone tits up with Renaults proposed version of the iconic Five, its the front end/the face/the bit your eyes are drawn to 1st, maybe square headlights might save the day ? ...........have a word mate

The new Renault is a much better example of a car that stays true to its origins compared to all of the others you mentioned.
Especially Mini which shouldnt be allowed to carry that name.

 

[05XR8]

Looking through all the updates since the very first to this next one, there isn’t aren’t themes to each individual update. The theme looks to me as each update links to the next by one or more cars in each successive update.

Starting with this months update and working back. Something I thought about when gathering some cars for the prediction thread.
We’re getting a French car, a British car and a Japanese car. Last month we got a French car, two German cars and a Japanese’s car(a new livery for the Gr.4 Mazda3 which is its own car and not just a color ticket).

The Peugeot 205 connects with the possible Renault Kangoo as both companies had an alliance during those cars’ production years. The Unimog connects with the Vantage due to the Aston Martin using a Mercedes-Benz engine. BMW Z4 connects with the Vantage as a two-seat sports car and the Gr.4 Mazda3 is a preview of a new Mazda entering the franchise with the possible CX-30.

The cars in each update have a connection to cars from the updates preceding. Whether by country of origin, brand alliances, rally heritage, race car category and some through all those factors. Such as, how does the Spec II update connect with the previous month Update 1.38 with the Gr.4 Mazda3, FL5 Civic Type R and Phil Robles Civic EG K24 swap?
One hot hatch in race guise(based on a real Super Taikyu touring car), another in a factory raced tuned state and another an FF hot rod build.
The Spec II update has seven factory tuned versions built for high performance. That’s the theme that connects those two updates.

The theme that connects update 1.38 to 1.36 is the Civic Type R(1.38) is a current hot hatch and the GR Corolla(1.36) is a current hot hatch. 1.38 continues the theme set by 1.36. 136 also featured the Maserati MC20. That car continues the theme, of the mid-engine super car from the Aston Martin Valkyrie in Update 1.35. 1.35 contained two JDM 4WD sedans. Those cars continued the theme set in 1.34 by featuring the 4WD R32 GT-R. The 90s legendary R32 continued the theme of the 90s legendary Jaguar XJ220 in Update 1.32. Both six-cylinder twin- turbo engined cars.

Guess what? Update 1.31 also features a legendary six-cylinder twin-turbo engined car. The 959. Which also continues the Porsche connection with the Carrera RS in Update 1.29. Not to mention in 1.29 there are the Mazda3 and ItalDesign VGTs which connect Giorgetto Giugiaro and he connects the previous Update 1.27 that has a Bugatti Chiron. Giugiaro worked for Bugatti at a time.

I’m just now seeing how all updates are connected in one grand theme, rather than individual updates. Maybe.

 

[Lomic]

Looking through all the updates since the very first to this next one, there isn’t aren’t themes to each individual update

I think all of this is just coincidences. There are so many parameters involved that you'll always be able to make a link between 2 of the 6 cars regular updates bring.

 

[MroczMR]

I think all of this is just coincidences. There are so many parameters involved that you'll always be able to make a link between 2 of the 6 cars regular updates bring.

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