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The point of this Pro from Sony's point of view is PSSR. The more third parties that get used to that, and as such the more data it has to train off of, the better for PS6.

PS5/XSX came out just a little too early to get in on the ML upscaling trend but that's clearly where advances in graphics tech are going to come from going forward, we're pretty capped out on where raw power and pure render resolution can take things (not to mention how much 4K native rending of assets is hurting development times).
 
kjeldsen
I think this is an obvious "exclusive" piece of hardware aimed at the more hardcore fans that just want the best of the best.
For Sony it's a way to make more profit plus prepare for the next years of games that without any doubt will demand better GPU hardware.

And they are being very clever about it, the upgrade is subtle but very important in order to stay on par with PCs, and thanks to this i think they are making a healthy profit now that leaves them headroom for lowering the price when they want to raise the sales.

The real push for the 5Pro comes with GTA6 and the other new games that are built from the ground up to take advantage of the new GPU, that will show more than the somewhat vague differences between pro and non pro games we are seeing now.
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Thats one of the reasons i'm planning on buying the pro now instead of waiting. Its a product made for a more nische audience, so it probably wont drop price.
Also, since last year, i've been finding myself allways low in disk space on my og ps5. Many times when I get a new game and want to play right then, I am forced to uninstall another game or games, so to install them back when I finish said new game. That 2tb from the pro would solve this issue.
Finally the hardware upgrade. Aint gonna do much right now. But it might in 1 or 2 years. Digital foundry some months ago warned console gamers "you should be ready for the return of 30fps".
But the console presentation on the ps5 pro was pretty much centered around performance. That ps5 players prefer performance mode to quality mode by like 75% to 25%.
This makes me believe that in 1 or 2 years we might start getting 60fps only on the ps5 pro, leaving the og ps5 with 30fps only.
 
Meythia
How so?
Any game that runs on a PS5Pro also has to run on a PS5.


Pro consoles really create more workload on the developers, who know dont focus on optimizing for a single piece of hardware anymore (ideally for two) but instead will just throw out games in the hopes they will work (like they already did).

Example:
a developer that is bad on optimizations
Remnant 1 on PS4 - almost unbearable in certian maps of the game
Remnant 1 on PS4Pro - now it runs fine

Remnant 2 on PS5 (with performance mode) - almost a still picture in some fights
Remnant 2 on PS5Pro (with performance mode) - yeah, it kind off gets into 2 digits framerate
(Did you know there are 2 more quality modes that are definitly slower than performance mode?)

Example 2:
Horizon Chase (old style arcade like racing game)
runs fine on PS4
has lots of crashes on PS4Pro

For all that a Pro console brings to the table, there will always be a few games that will be at the wrong side of the fan when poop comes close.
Just as a small rant about what happens, and I am part of the problem by buying into it.
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You mention 2 examples and it's the same developer? You are correct that 2 sku's means more work for the developers, that didn't stop us from getting impressive PS4 Pro games vs the ordinary PS4 and that is exactly what the PS5Pro will bring us.

Doncarlone
Thats one of the reasons i'm planning on buying the pro now instead of waiting. Its a product made for a more nische audience, so it probably wont drop price.
Also, since last year, i've been finding myself allways low in disk space on my og ps5. Many times when I get a new game and want to play right then, I am forced to uninstall another game or games, so to install them back when I finish said new game. That 2tb from the pro would solve this issue.
Finally the hardware upgrade. Aint gonna do much right now. But it might in 1 or 2 years. Digital foundry some months ago warned console gamers "you should be ready for the return of 30fps".
But the console presentation on the ps5 pro was pretty much centered around performance. That ps5 players prefer performance mode to quality mode by like 75% to 25%.
This makes me believe that in 1 or 2 years we might start getting 60fps only on the ps5 pro, leaving the og ps5 with 30fps only.
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Personally i am waiting a bit to see where this goes, when GTA6 is close i will get mine no matter what :-)
 
Blind hope, but seeing so many other games having significant content news as of late, be it Forza Motorsport, iRacing, RaceRoom, Assetto Corsa Evo, Automobilista etc.
It's making me think we surely must be getting something juicy in the presumed late November / early December update.
I mean it seems like LMH/LMDh cars are popping up left & right across different games now, for example.
And I can't quite get out of my head the idea that the 2024 GT500 cars will be on their way to GT7 at some point.

I'm not getting my hopes up on something happening outside of the PS5 Pro stuff and the normal 3 cars, but it does seem kinda odd how the majority of other games have stuff going on or announced, and it's been relatively quiet for GT7.
 
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Blind hope, but seeing so many other games having significant content news as of late, be it Forza Motorsport, iRacing, RaceRoom, Assetto Corsa Evo, Automobilista etc.
It's making me think we surely must be getting something juicy in the presumed late November / early December update.
I mean it seems like LMH/LMDh cars are popping up left & right across different games now, for example.
And I can't quite get out of my head the idea that the 2024 GT500 cars will be on their way to GT7 at some point.

I'm not getting my hopes up on something happening outside of the PS5 Pro stuff and the normal 3 cars, but it does seem kinda odd how the majority of other games have stuff going on or announced, and it's been relatively quiet for GT7.
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I am of the same mindset, been thinking this past couple of days:
Found it weird that so much progress and improvements made all around and things are being added a constant speed, but nothing much from PD, they seem to have slowed down....

The quiet before the storm, or just PD simply slowing down and working on GT8/PS6/VR3 for 2030 release ?
 
PSN offapple
Blind hope, but seeing so many other games having significant content news as of late, be it Forza Motorsport, iRacing, RaceRoom, Assetto Corsa Evo, Automobilista etc.
It's making me think we surely must be getting something juicy in the presumed late November / early December update.
I mean it seems like LMH/LMDh cars are popping up left & right across different games now, for example.
And I can't quite get out of my head the idea that the 2024 GT500 cars will be on their way to GT7 at some point.

I'm not getting my hopes up on something happening outside of the PS5 Pro stuff and the normal 3 cars, but it does seem kinda odd how the majority of other games have stuff going on or announced, and it's been relatively quiet for GT7.
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I'm definetly not getting my hopes up either apart from maybe 4 or 5 cars instead of the classic 3.
With the community being happier than ever about the game and its updates, why expect them to suddenly drop a very big update, especially when you guys also (rightfully) say that they don't care about their competitors.

You asked for it.
 
needfspeed999
I'm definetly not getting my hopes up either apart from maybe 4 or 5 cars instead of the classic 3.
With the community being happier than ever about the game and its updates, why expect them to suddenly drop a very big update, especially when you guys also (rightfully) say that they don't care about their competitors.

You asked for it.
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At the same time beggars cannot be choosers...

So we are victims and at their mercy...

Thus the mixed emotions around here for say the past decade...
 
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Blind hope, but seeing so many other games having significant content news as of late, be it Forza Motorsport, iRacing, RaceRoom, Assetto Corsa Evo, Automobilista etc.
It's making me think we surely must be getting something juicy in the presumed late November / early December update.
I mean it seems like LMH/LMDh cars are popping up left & right across different games now, for example.
And I can't quite get out of my head the idea that the 2024 GT500 cars will be on their way to GT7 at some point.

I'm not getting my hopes up on something happening outside of the PS5 Pro stuff and the normal 3 cars, but it does seem kinda odd how the majority of other games have stuff going on or announced, and it's been relatively quiet for GT7.
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Just my two cents here... I honestly believe we are at the end of GT7 as a game. Its kind of the Pattern PD has had in the past with GT5 to GT6 and GT Sport to GT7. Less and less content comes out to release as a bigger batch for the new game. Id love to see the new GT3 and GT500 cars hit the GT series. Also, as a HUGE fan of Endurance racing, they do have the partnership with IMSA, which could give light to the GTP Class cars (LMDh/LMH for WEC).
 
Celso9
Just my two cents here... I honestly believe we are at the end of GT7 as a game. Its kind of the Pattern PD has had in the past with GT5 to GT6 and GT Sport to GT7. Less and less content comes out to release as a bigger batch for the new game.
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Dripfed content is just the new way of supporting games post-launch, and as long the community is happy because "the updates are still free" then it's not gonna change. PD are not different than others like many people think and i wouldn't expect things to change for the better anytime soon.

Celso9
Id love to see the new GT3 and GT500 cars hit the GT series. Also, as a HUGE fan of Endurance racing, they do have the partnership with IMSA, which could give light to the GTP Class cars (LMDh/LMH for WEC).
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I think we'll have to wait at least for the next game for those new race cars and i'm not even sure. They're famous for not using their partnerships in favour of their players. Remember how long they've had the Pikes Peak exclusive license for? People still think we're actually gonna see that in the game?
 
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I recognise this is an unpopular opinion, but the LM hypercars, especially LMDhs, have reached that GT3 saturation point in sims for me where I just can't build any excitement for them.

Don't get me wrong, I'd be happy for the people who want them in, I'm not saying PD shouldn't add them. But the 963 and V.Series and BMW M are cars I can boot up a bunch of sims and drive already. Stuff like the modern GT500s, or rally/Pikes Peak cars, or historic cars are way more unique, and I think unique is what I'm looking for from car roster additions these days.
 
needfspeed999
Dripfed content is just the new way of supporting games post-launch, and as long the community is happy because "the updates are still free" then it's not gonna change. PD are not different than others like many people think and i wouldn't expect things to change for the better anytime soon.


I think we'll have to wait at least for the next game for those new race cars and i'm not even sure. They're famous for not using their partnerships in favour of their players. Remember how long they've had the Pikes Peak exclusive license for? People still think we're actually gonna see that in the game?
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Thing is before gt sport, gt had very little content updates, gt5 and gt6 didint add much cars or tracks after release.

Sure they had more cars and tracks, but we had the issues with the majority was ps2 assets.
 
Gr.1 needs sorting out before they should bother adding things to it in my opinion. It's an absolute mess, you've got like 3/4 different classes all under the same BoP and barely any of them are competitive with eachother.
Doesn't need more bloat adding to it, they need to actually split it up and do it properly so it can be used in the first place.
 
PSN offapple
Blind hope, but seeing so many other games having significant content news as of late, be it Forza Motorsport, iRacing, RaceRoom, Assetto Corsa Evo, Automobilista etc.
It's making me think we surely must be getting something juicy in the presumed late November / early December update.
I mean it seems like LMH/LMDh cars are popping up left & right across different games now, for example.
And I can't quite get out of my head the idea that the 2024 GT500 cars will be on their way to GT7 at some point.

I'm not getting my hopes up on something happening outside of the PS5 Pro stuff and the normal 3 cars, but it does seem kinda odd how the majority of other games have stuff going on or announced, and it's been relatively quiet for GT7.
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It has always been like this. It will always be like this.
 
BradleyLove
I've done the data transfer when setting up my Pro and it did not copy across any of my replays. Really frustrating from PD.
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I learnt my lesson when I upgraded to Ps5.

Since the switch I've been committed to sharing my replays directly from the post race lobby (which is much easier offline than in Sport Mode!), for the very reason that i came to the same realisation you did.
 
While I'll always vouch for new race cars coming to the game, I do wonder how they would balance any new LMDh/DPI machines up against the existing crop of Group 1 cars.

Given there's Vision GT, faster LMP1 machines - I can see them being generally regarded as useless.

And we know that for any events that will actually use these cars, PD won't enforce restrictions or use BOP for single player events (unless it GT Sophy and those are only 3 lap sprints anyway). Not to mention there are no endurance events for any of these Group 1 cars to shine...

This is the same team that put all the resources towards building a track only for it to have a single event (take Northern Isle Speedway)
 
Vitesh Patel
While I'll always vouch for new race cars coming to the game, I do wonder how they would balance any new LMDh/DPI machines up against the existing crop of Group 1 cars.

Given there's Vision GT, faster LMP1 machines - I can see them being generally regarded as useless.
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In my opinion it would be better if LMP1/Group C/hypothetical LMDh cars had their own categories. It doesn't feel serious to race such cars against each other and VGTs
 
Nakano219
I recognise this is an unpopular opinion, but the LM hypercars, especially LMDhs, have reached that GT3 saturation point in sims for me where I just can't build any excitement for them.

Don't get me wrong, I'd be happy for the people who want them in, I'm not saying PD shouldn't add them. But the 963 and V.Series and BMW M are cars I can boot up a bunch of sims and drive already. Stuff like the modern GT500s, or rally/Pikes Peak cars, or historic cars are way more unique, and I think unique is what I'm looking for from car roster additions these days.
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I think that’s a fair take. As am the opposite but I get what you mean. I’d love to see the SC63 or 499P in GT7.

But I’d love to see the 2024 GT500’s from Toyota Nissan & Honda more. Bundle them in with Motegi. Man, that would be some Stella dlc.
 
MXR_Sparky
I think that’s a fair take. As am the opposite but I get what you mean. I’d love to see the SC63 or 499P in GT7.

But I’d love to see the 2024 GT500’s from Toyota Nissan & Honda more. Bundle them in with Motegi. Man, that would be some Stella dlc.
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Not only would the 2024 GT500 trio be perfect due to there being a 100% turnover of models, but also because it'll be another even eight years between them and the 2016 models, which in turn have eight years between them and the 2008 trio. But we can't forget the other three DTM cars from the "Class One" era, either, especially now that we have the Audi.

Of course, I'm more than down to see the latest LMH/LMDh racers, too. In fact, the only Gr.1-eligible cars I'd wanna see beyond that would be the Peugeot 905, the Toyota TS010, and the Audi R8 LMP that gave the road car its namesake.
 
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MIE1992
Not only would the 2024 GT500 trio be perfect due to there being a 100% turnover of models, but also because it'll be another even eight years between them and the 2016 models, which in turn have eight years between them and the 2008 trio. But we can't forget the other three DTM cars from the "Class One" era, either, especially now that we have the Audi.

Of course, I'm more than down to see the latest LMH/LMDh racers, too. In fact, the only Gr.1-eligible cars I'd wanna see beyond that would be the Peugeot 905, the Toyota TS010, and the Audi R8 LMP that gave the road car its namesake.
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Believe one of the GT300 drivers said that PD was scanning Motegi not long ago. So fingers crossed.
 
The above few posts are precisely why we have a Car & Track Wishlist thread, folks.

www.gtplanet.net

The Gran Turismo Car & Track Wishlist Thread...

It seems that making wishlists is a particularly popular hobby for many of you :D No matter what the thread may be, someone, somehow, seems to shoehorn a list of cars and/or tracks that they'd like in the game into it - and we have more than one thread that's basically a wishlist with extra...
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Famine
The above few posts are precisely why we have a Car & Track Wishlist thread, folks.

www.gtplanet.net

The Gran Turismo Car & Track Wishlist Thread...

It seems that making wishlists is a particularly popular hobby for many of you :D No matter what the thread may be, someone, somehow, seems to shoehorn a list of cars and/or tracks that they'd like in the game into it - and we have more than one thread that's basically a wishlist with extra...
www.gtplanet.net www.gtplanet.net
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Oh sorry, just a general statement. Won’t happen again.
 

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