I actually think the Ioniq ticks all the boxes as a GT car, class defining handling, performance the grown up version of the I30N which was arguably the Focus ST main rival and better in a lot of ways.The Hyundai that car enthusiast sites have been cranking themselves translucent over?
Hyundai Ioniq 5 N 2024 review – the most engaging EV yet | Evo
Hyundai has used every trick in the book – and written a few new ones – to make the Ioniq 5 N fun to drive. The results are truly impressivewww.evo.co.uk
That Hyundai?
See this post:And the Corolla GL or whatever was the best selling car globally for years.
Neither of these cars are class defining or drivers cars or tuners favourites just cheap and reliable and functional.
This is part of my point, other than accessibility and reliability in the corollas case I'm not sure what their real relevance is in a game predominantly focused on car history and promoting racing.
Popular doesn't equal good and all things being equal I'd put money on them being priced favourably and the world buys with their wallets and needs not what is the best car or track weapon etc.
@matrix_gt1 we all see and appreciate the detail and craftsmanship it's the choices they make seem rather self satisfying rather than user focused.
I mean they spend a lot of times making the car museums and rattle on around heritage etc but objectively looking at it there are a lot more previous title cars and tracks they could have brought back.
Then you have the Uras, great car but the Cayenne saved Porsche and was in previous games where as the Uras is a Chelsea tractor that ferries Tarquin and Tabitha to school in Kensington every day.
They have all the ammo all the passion and skill yet sometimes the decisions feel less than ethos or user centred and a little more self serving.
A car is with releases and sells like hot cakes in its home country and you don't(or won't) see the historical relevance? I don't think GT was ever meant to be a power fantasy. Believe it or not, everyone doesn't play games for that reason. Like I also said earlier, I think a lot of you guy's frustration isnt necessarily with GT, its the fact that GT is all we got so people keep waiting on GT to turn into something it never was.Speaking of being old...I remember once upon a time, back when a Blockbuster date was a thing, the draw of GT was being able to drive real cars...hopefully YOUR car. How did we get here?
I think you are missing my point. In GT5 we had the moon rover and a whole mission dedicated to it.See this post:
A car is with releases and sells like hot cakes in its home country and you don't(or won't) see the historical relevance? I don't think GT was ever meant to be a power fantasy. Believe it or not, everyone doesn't play games for that reason. Like I also said earlier, I think a lot of you guy's frustration isnt necessarily with GT, its the fact that GT is all we got so people keep waiting on GT to turn into something it never was.
...only for the second gen model to be Europe only after it flopped in rest of Asia and North America. (Wonder if the sales eventually tanked too in Japan?)FYI The C-HR was the 4th top selling car in Japan the year it debuted.
This but unironically.Now let’s have a race A with this Civic Si at the Nordschleife 🙏
In chromatic drive no less.I am here to see how tomorrow we will get 200 pages of liveries and scapes from the C-HR🤭🤭🤭
I get what you're saying but I think you're missing THEE point. The GENESIS IDEA was to be the game where you were able to drive YOUR car on a race track without spending oodles of money. The C-HR is PD sticking to the original plan, staying true to what GT is, not what people want it to be. The odds are extremely high that someone...multiple people.....playing GT own a CHR, thus its in the game. Its not about liking or disliking the updates or GT even, to brutally honest its about folks tired of seeing folks cry over things they have no control over, never will and not realizing their river of tears are only carrying them further and further away from it ever being a possibility.I think you are missing my point. In GT5 we had the moon rover and a whole mission dedicated to it.
We had the top end models across a large swathes of manufacturers.
The point is and remains, my frustration is in that it is ok to use culturally relevant new cars (ioniq5 N) but that mediocre cars with nothing but mediocre events to run them in arguably in a class on its own.
Popularity is more to do with finance deals rather than adding to car culture in a meaningful way.
It's ok to be happy with the update, it's also ok to question it. Both things can be true at the same time.
And yetSo many cool cars out there in the wild, but they picked the Toyota C-HR, the handsome concept that turned poop ugly for production. There isn't anything racing-inspired about it at all....
The fact is we could’ve asked every person on this forum what cars they’d have picked for an interesting update and none of them would pick a SUV soccer-not-quite-milf material motor like the Toyota or the Hyundai over something which might actually be useful.
Having played this game as an import from GT1 that's not quite the Genesis of the game...I get what you're saying but I think you're missing THEE point. The GENESIS IDEA was to be the game where you were able to drive YOUR car on a race track without spending oodles of money. The C-HR is PD sticking to the original plan, staying true to what GT is, not what people want it to be. The odds are extremely high that someone...multiple people.....playing GT own a CHR, thus its in the game. Its not about liking or disliking the updates or GT even, to brutally honest its about folks tired of seeing folks cry over things they have no control over, never will and not realizing their river of tears are only carrying them further and further away from it ever being a possibility.
And three 24-hour races against only five AI opponents in GT4 - which (albeit understandably) lacked dynamic time of day - wasn't?\A Time Trial at Pikes Peak would be masochistic.
I think there's a balance to be struck, here. For example, I drive a 2023 Kia Forte GT-Line, which I don't ever see being added. If any Forte gets added, it'd likely be the Forte GT, which has a turbo - and that's assuming the K4 doesn't get added instead, since it replaces the Forte. (Though I'd be fine with the K4, honestly.)(appeal to popularity)
I would. I'm one of the normal car sickos who'd ask for more everyday rides just for the sake of variety in a game.
That seems to be a pretty sad way to look at the console and other games.its the fact that GT is all we got
Nah, GT never did that for me.The GENESIS IDEA was to be the game where you were able to drive YOUR car on a race track without spending oodles of money
Paid tracks also have a risk of breaking the playerbase (especially with Sport Mode). Remember the GT5 days when people could not race at Motegi or SSRX in a lobby because they don't own the track DLC?
I wish we got that instead. A c-hr gr4.
I wish we got that instead. A c-hr gr4.
JoyWell hopefully we modify it to that level
Tell my 2 jimnys they aren't special. I dare you.Having a base level C-HR is too cute. The special trim Si is very Gran Turismo.
Yeah I'm all about striking a balance while keeping each game's USP.I think there's a balance to be struck, here. For example, I drive a 2023 Kia Forte GT-Line, which I don't ever see being added. If any Forte gets added, it'd likely be the Forte GT, which has a turbo - and that's assuming the K4 doesn't get added instead, since it replaces the Forte. (Though I'd be fine with the K4, honestly.)
I saw that, too. I would prefer the simulated gearbox mode, but it does make the car slower, so in the game the car is in performance mode, which is the quickest mode in real life as well. Maybe there is a way in the game to change the driving mode, but I doubt it.Is it just me or is Hyundai purposely not using the virtual gearbox? It wasn't there in FH5 and it isn't here either, at least to my (aging) ears
Yeah, roughly 10 million worth of credits gets you a muffler. Yawn.Oh, having the lot of the Group C cars will finely be worth something. At least that is a positive we can all enjoy.