Gran Turismo 7 Update Arrives Next Week, With Three New Cars

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I can't really see the Unimog having much practical use outside of the Sunday cups and maybe the pickup truck races. I'm not saying it's a bad addition, just one with not a very practical usage is all.

Wouldn't surprise if the extra menu this time around is one about collecting the three pickups (Raptor, Tundra and now the Unimog).
 
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What's a "mom car"?

Why do you even play this game if you think cars are boring?
Some of the cars in the game are not great. “Mom” cars are probably not in the jargon of your country. Slang for station wagons, hatchbacks, SUVs. Mom’s frequently use them for running for groceries and carting their kids around in with baby seats. The number of “mom” cars to updated race cars have been a bit lopsided in the eyes of many. We have three weekly races. They are always GR4 and GR3 cars. It would be nice if the cars were of the last couple years since we have to choose from them so frequently.

There is nothing wrong with the mom cars, however, 2 years in people are itching for some of the newer race cars. We got the fake F1 car from the 90s. It’s nice but still fake. Maybe a licensing problem? I doubt it given there are actual F1 replicas in the game.

Additionally, I think people are also wanting purpose built famous tracks. For the life of me, I cannot understand why Silverstone isn’t in the game since it was a feature of blockbuster Gran Turismo movie. There were also other tracks featured in the movie that aren’t in the game and the last track, after the cinema release, was the imagined Eiger track instead of a real life rendition.

I think if you just got into the game then all the fuss is baseless. If you are a day one consumer and love the franchise its getting stale and frustrating to the point that a pay for DLC would be preferable to free updates of everyday “mom” cars.

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I unironically like the Unimog a bunch now after reading it's story and driving the 2014 version in Forza Horizon 5. The truck might weigh 7 tonnes but driving it at 125KM/H on dirt tracks is a load of fun. Not sure how the older version will fare in GT7 but I'm excited to try it out because I haven't driven anything of the sort before. Gran Turismo likes to celebrate automotive heroes and the Unimog is definitely one of them due to it's versatility and more than 70 years of production. It's used to fight fires, carry building supplies, tow cars, rescue people, transport military troops, plow the fields and tow bails of hay around a farm. It can also be used as a recovery vehicle on the race track. Without the Unimog, a lot of motorsport would not be able to take place. All that from a machine first introduced in 1948. I'm happy that GT is giving it some love.
 
Some of the cars in the game are not great. “Mom” cars are probably not in the jargon of your country. Slang for station wagons, hatchbacks, SUVs. Mom’s frequently use them for running for groceries and carting their kids around in with baby seats. The number of “mom” cars to updated race cars have been a bit lopsided in the eyes of many. We have three weekly races. They are always GR4 and GR3 cars. It would be nice if the cars were of the last couple years since we have to choose from them so frequently.

There is nothing wrong with the mom cars, however, 2 years in people are itching for some of the newer race cars. We got the fake F1 car from the 90s. It’s nice but still fake. Maybe a licensing problem? I doubt it given there are actual F1 replicas in the game.

Additionally, I think people are also wanting purpose built famous tracks. For the life of me, I cannot understand why Silverstone isn’t in the game since it was a feature of blockbuster Gran Turismo movie. There were also other tracks featured in the movie that aren’t in the game and the last track, after the cinema release, was the imagined Eiger track instead of a real life rendition.

I think if you just got into the game then all the fuss is baseless. If you are a day one consumer and love the franchise its getting stale and frustrating to the point that a pay for DLC would be preferable to free updates of everyday “mom” cars.

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If the game is getting stale and frustrating, then perhaps it's time to take a break from it for a while? You're not forced to play GT7 obviously.

I'd rather have the road cars, or "mom" cars as it's being apparently called now, over the latest race car simply because race cars don't interest me in any way whatsoever, and from what I can gather from reading reddit and X, it seems that is a common sentiment within the GT player base. There really only seems to be the sport mode people advocating for more modern race cars.

As for paid DLC, it seems often that people forget PD tried that with GT5 and that it wasn't a huge success and only ended up dividing the player base.
 
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But what interesting cars are there from the last 5 years?
Some racing cars from WEC of the different classes. Does updated [sports cars] models count? There's diminishing returns of the fun to be had by adding cars from 1-3 years ago, & costs more stupid license money, but GT7 mostly has enough old cars. It's also a challenge in GT7 timeframe that many of us are 'old' & played earlier GT games & like to see some of them in GT7 or equivalent cars. But that's not gonna be much newer the 7-10 years ago.
 
Some of the cars in the game are not great.
That's a matter of opinion. If you have an expectation to like every car in the game then you should stick to games with a small number of cars. Any game with a lot of variety is going to disappoint you.
“Mom” cars are probably not in the jargon of your country. Slang for station wagons, hatchbacks, SUVs. Mom’s frequently use them for running for groceries and carting their kids around in with baby seats.
So any car that is a little bit practical is a "mom car"?
The number of “mom” cars to updated race cars have been a bit lopsided in the eyes of many.
Speak for yourself. You know well that there are many people who like these cars, so you're never going to get your point across by referring to the opinion of "many".

Since you consider anything practical a "mom car", obviously your stats are little skewed. It would help with your perception if you actually saw the cars for what they are instead if blanket rejecting them all under one and the same derogatory (and misogynic?) term.
We have three weekly races. They are always GR4 and GR3 cars. It would be nice if the cars were of the last couple years since we have to choose from them so frequently.
Sure. But on the other hand we do have GR3 and GR4 cars from a whole bunch of brands. How many estate cars do we have? One. If anything they should add more of those.
There is nothing wrong with the mom cars
You opened with "some cars are not great".
, however, 2 years in people are itching for some of the newer race cars.
We have had at least 3-4 new additions to the GR3 and GR4 cars since the release. And about a dozen race cars that doesn't belong to those groups.

Compare that to the one estate car we have.
I think if you just got into the game then all the fuss is baseless. If you are a day one consumer and love the franchise its getting stale and frustrating to the point that a pay for DLC would be preferable to free updates of everyday “mom” cars.
That's incorrect.
 
1. Real life track
2. Original track
3. No track at all
4. Rally track
Personally:
1. Particularly outstanding & underused real track (Pikes Peak, Guia, Potrero de los Funes, Monza Combined, Oulton Park, Buddh)
2. Tahiti (Road, Maze, Dirt Route 3)
3. Any other Returning Original, City and Dirt/Snow track, incl. Kart Space
4. Other real track
5. Totally new original track
6. Rally generator
7. No track
8. Bahrain International Circuit
 
Some of the cars in the game are not great. “Mom” cars are probably not in the jargon of your country. Slang for station wagons, hatchbacks, SUVs. Mom’s frequently use them for running for groceries and carting their kids around in with baby seats.

Oh it’s very much in the slang of every country - it just went out of style like 20 years ago - probably because it’s completely stupid.
 
While this absolutely "looks" like a race car and probably sounds like a race car, it is in fact NOT a true race car.
And trust me, I am all about transforming road cars like this into what appears to be a race car but this game DOES NOT give you "everything" required to satisfy the desire of transforming a road car into a race car. For instance, the inability to add a roll cage ruins this entire concept. A simple addition (option) that is mysteriously missing from more than a few of the games cars. PD could go a long way in little details like this. Add a roll cage, have the option to "remove" badges and emblems, reroute exhaust dumps..etc.
In one generation of this series (3 or 4 maybe), there was an option to turn certain cars into bonafide race cars. One click and BOOM, race car!
I liked the feature in GT5 that several road cars could be transformed to race cars, & even that some of the race-modified cars weren't very fast they were still cool.
 
How about that crappy little civic? Or that boring Hyundai? There are 2 mom cars for you. Just 2 examples.
I don't care they added them but I do agree they need more stuff I couldn't actually go plop $500 down for and that does the quarter mile quicker than in 2 days. If I wanted to do that, I'd go drive my nieces civic.
The boring Hyundai that puts out the same horsepower as McLaren F1 & runs 11s in the QTR?

It may not be your cup of tea, but let's not make embarrassing statements. Folks wish their mom had a car with that kind of performance on hand.
 
How about that crappy little civic? Or that boring Hyundai? There are 2 mom cars for you. Just 2 examples.
I don't care they added them but I do agree they need more stuff I couldn't actually go plop $500 down for and that does the quarter mile quicker than in 2 days. If I wanted to do that, I'd go drive my nieces civic.

Man, I won’t repeat myself here again..
Just two questions:
By your definition, which of all the cars in GT7 are „mom cars“ for you?
Why have you decided to pick GT7 for your driving game needs?
 
The fact that Monaco still isn't added is a bad decision from PD. It's still being used for racing including F1 & was in GT3-GT4-GT5-GT6.
Other than nostalgia adding a track that is too narrow to pass on is reason enough to not add it. Even F1 are pondering ways to make the race more exciting. Those resources are better being spent on a proper track that could be useful in sport mode.
 
The responses to this thread perfectly illustrate why it would be impossible to please everyone with each of these updates.

GT7 is a game with a global audience and car culture isn't the same everywhere - to us Europeans the Peugeot 205 GTi is an icon, as was the Cossie added a few months ago, but I can totally understand the bemusement of American players at cars they have likely never seen or even heard of as they weren't sold in the States.

And, if you look at the Japanese-language comments under Kaz's posts, they're often asking for 90's and 80's JDM, particularly kei cars. Most of those I've never seen in real life - I only know they exist because of older GT games!

Then there's the vocal community asking for more modern GT3 and LMP cars. It's a nigh-on impossible task to cater for everyone with the limited development time available.

(What is baffling is how often cars that no-one has asked for get added, like the Afeela, Himedic, VGTs etc. I must admit I'm Unimog-curious but it would have been way, way down my priority list.)

My pet peeve is the lack of British cars. No Lotus, no MG/Rover, no Vauxhall, no pre-1980s British Fords, just the one TVR all on its lonesome. It does sting a little bit especially when PD is making quite good progress adding every iconic French car I can think of.
The Opel/Vauxhall Calibra touring car is one of my favorites from GT3&GT4 because it is both fast & easy to control with a gamepad!
 
Some of the cars in the game are not great. “Mom” cars are probably not in the jargon of your country. Slang for station wagons, hatchbacks, SUVs. Mom’s frequently use them for running for groceries and carting their kids around in with baby seats. The number of “mom” cars to updated race cars have been a bit lopsided in the eyes of many. We have three weekly races. They are always GR4 and GR3 cars. It would be nice if the cars were of the last couple years since we have to choose from them so frequently.

There is nothing wrong with the mom cars, however, 2 years in people are itching for some of the newer race cars. We got the fake F1 car from the 90s. It’s nice but still fake. Maybe a licensing problem? I doubt it given there are actual F1 replicas in the game.

Additionally, I think people are also wanting purpose built famous tracks. For the life of me, I cannot understand why Silverstone isn’t in the game since it was a feature of blockbuster Gran Turismo movie. There were also other tracks featured in the movie that aren’t in the game and the last track, after the cinema release, was the imagined Eiger track instead of a real life rendition.

I think if you just got into the game then all the fuss is baseless. If you are a day one consumer and love the franchise its getting stale and frustrating to the point that a pay for DLC would be preferable to free updates of everyday “mom” cars.

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I still don't understand the logic of paid DLC solving anything, it doesn't guarantee the content will be good or any different than what we already get, and you have examples of this already with GT5 introducing incredible race bred machines such as the Nissan Leaf, Golf, Scirocco, Mini Cooper Countryman, the old Beetle... and then the pack that had racecars was nothing but fake racecars, one of them being a Prius, and then more flavors of the kart.
Then we talk tracks, while yes we got both Motegi and Spa, we also got Kart Space and Route X which are pretty much useless for any "serious" racing.
GT7 is not all doom and gloom with bad content because along the way we got Watkins Glen and Road Atlanta, a lot of modern performance cars, hypercars even, also fan-favorites from previous games - the only lacking aspect would be newer Gr.3/Gr.4 models but I think that's a deliberate choice, they probably want to save those for GT8 to make the game feel fresh on launch instead of a GT7.5.
We would most likely get the same content we get today, just now with a paywall on the way.
 
I am genuinly interested but, Will the MB Unimog be a newer model like this or an older model???

teaser-unimog-off-road.jpg

This one has ABS and ASR...crikey!!! :drool:
 
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I am genuinly interested but, Will the MB Unimog be a newer model like this or an older model???
Older, by lots. A short-wheelbase 411 pickup (maybe the side-tipper).
 
Some of the cars in the game are not great. “Mom” cars are probably not in the jargon of your country. Slang for station wagons, hatchbacks, SUVs. Mom’s frequently use them for running for groceries and carting their kids around in with baby seats. The number of “mom” cars to updated race cars have been a bit lopsided in the eyes of many. We have three weekly races. They are always GR4 and GR3 cars. It would be nice if the cars were of the last couple years since we have to choose from them so frequently.
Sure, but where do you draw the line?

Would you consider a Golf GTI to be a "mom car"? How about a Golf R? If PD added a Golf Gr.4 touring car, would that be a boring mom car to you or an epic based race car addition?

If your entire point is "cars of this particular body type are all boring snoozefests" then that's such an astoundingly silly point I wouldn't even know where to begin.
 
Fun fact, I've worked on an Unimog concept for rail work 12 years ago. We've added a new chassis with small wheels and a device to unfold catenary lines on it.
We never finished it tho.
 
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