Gran Turismo Sport - Ferrari LaFerrari Driveablity

[OrganicDino]

Didnt eveven manage to try top speed. On what tracks/tires?

Theres a video of a laferrari doing 360 on the italian interstate. So it's highly dependent on the conditions. Top speed in that car is definitely above 344 though. I ve seen a few youtube max speed videos and they re all above that.

I've seen that video too! I believe that's how much faster the car is with the electronic top speed limiter removed. The car should be topping out around 350 km/h+ MAX, not 370 km/h+ in GT Sport. I believe the batteries switch off at a certain speed to prevent overheating, and then only the V12 engine is doing all the acceleration from then on. I know for a fact that the Porsche 918 does this for the same reason, making it have blistering fast acceleration in the 1/4 mile time compared to the LaFerrari and P1, but then reaching 300 km/h it comes last after the LaFerrari taking 2nd place and the P1 in 1st.

 

[OrganicDino]

I just researched online a bit about how the LaFerrari works and its different driving modes.

People seem to not know exactly how the car works.

Here's the deal:

The car has about 5 driving modes, 3 of which are relevant: Race mode, TC off mode and ESC off mode (most extreme, basically drift mode, its even advertised by Ferrari as such).

The car generally sits in Race mode (even in GTS if you check the steering wheel, its like that.)

In race race, ESC (ASM as its called in GTS) is on and TC is on on a lower level (somewhere between 1 and 2 in GTS).

If you set ASM on and TC on either 1 or 2, AND equip the car with sport soft tires (which are the equivalent of the stickiest road legal tires, such as the ones LaFerrari comes with), you won't have ANY issues pushi g the car hard and managing to keep in on the track.

As most people set their ASM off (because it's not selectable by car in GTS, and it kills maneuverability in race cars), you re basically driving the car in "drift mode" and hence its very hard to drive.

Also, regarding its acceleration in GTS. If you srt the tc to 1, floor it, let go of the breaks, it will do 100kph in about 4.5 secs. In reality it does the veryy low 3s, BUT only in launch mode. As there os no launch mode in GTS, its its to replicate.

FYI, launch mode in LaFerrari works as follows (taken over from a drivetribe article): ASM is automatically set to off, TC is automatically adjusted on the fly by the car. You slam the break and the acceleration after activating it and let go of the break. The car automatically revs to about 3000 rpm before launching, and automatically shifts into 2nd before torque begins to fall, all the while automatically adjusting the slip and TC of the car.

This is obviously impossible manually, and non reproductible without launch mode on (in reality or GTS). So as long as GTS (and AC for that matter) dont have a launch control mode for the car, don't expect that kind of acceleration. Its not how the car works.

Nice! Thanks for the info. There is so much more to this Italian prancing horse than I thought. Just a question though, in AC the instrument panel is set up differently displaying the tachometer in the middle and the speedometer on the right whereas in GTS, the tachometer is like a curve-to-straight bar type/gauge that goes red in colour when all the bars are being filled, the gear indicator below it and the speedometer below that.

Are they different modes, and if so could GT in a way be utilising the slightly more tail happy mode of the car, while AC could be adopting the track mode of the car?

 

[Tou2istTrophy]

Nice! Thanks for the info. There is so much more to this Italian prancing horse than I thought. Just a question though, in AC the instrument panel is set up differently displaying the tachometer in the middle and the speedometer on the right whereas in GTS, the tachometer is like a curve-to-straight bar type/gauge that goes red in colour when all the bars are being filled, the gear indicator below it and the speedometer below that.

Are they different modes, and if so could GT in a way be utilising the slightly more tail happy mode of the car, while AC could be adopting the track mode of the car?

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I’m pretty sure that’s just a visual thing you can change.

 

[barkohba]

The GTS displays the "Race Mode" gauge mode. AC I believe is the normal one. Check the steering wheel in AC, what mode is it set on?

 

[alenx]

Is there a new tyre model in the works? is it confirmed?

 

[Lord Protector]

Is there a new tyre model in the works? is it confirmed?

yes

 

[Moglet]

It's the tire model problem once the tires start spinning they cannot stop spinning until they gain "full grip" again. Also, it's not just LaFerrari, it's basically any high powered car, be it RWD or FWD.

Is this true? If so it explains a lot. I only ever really spin the wheels up when I'm purposely upsetting the car for photos but it always feels like it's on ice once the grip goes, even on lower power cars. If my real life RX8 could re-gain traction after a bit of wheel spin (and it did, frequently) then I'm fairly certain an MX5 on sports tyres in GT Sport should be able to, too. Instead it just goes all floaty!

 

[Lord Protector]

Is this true? If so it explains a lot. I only ever really spin the wheels up when I'm purposely upsetting the car for photos but it always feels like it's on ice once the grip goes, even on lower power cars. If my real life RX8 could re-gain traction after a bit of wheel spin (and it did, frequently) then I'm fairly certain an MX5 on sports tyres in GT Sport should be able to, too. Instead it just goes all floaty!

I do not know what kind of tires your RX8 wears but I had one too. And it felt completely different. Now I have a C5 Corvette (around 340bhp) and the car slides less than Miata in GTS... I can drive it in a controlled skid out of corners. Whenever I try anything similar to this in GTS I crash. I have driven Miata too and I have never felt like I need to let off gas like in GTS, the car never outperformed the tires.

Same goes for FWD, my Honda Prelude could only outperform the tires under turning + accelerating at 2nd gear. Unlike GTS where FWD cars feel like you are constantly sending 400hp to the front wheels.

 

[Sander 001]

I drove the La Ferrari on Monza in Project Cars 2 to compare with GT Sport on the same track yesterday. My fastest time was a 1:48 straight out of the box without any tuning on soft tyres. It is far more driveable compared to GT Sport, with a lot less wheel spin and better braking. Suprisingly easy to drive fast, something I also found with the Huracan. My time in GT Sport was a 1:51, and I struggled just to get that on soft tyres. Wheelspin up until 4th gear and horrendous braking distances. In Project Cars 2, I hit the brakes at the 200 metre board before the first corner and the car pulls up no problem. In GT Sport, I would go straight off if I braked at the 200 metre board. I feel as though GT Sport makes road cars harder to drive than they should be; the physics need a serious overhaul for them.

The lack of frontal down force in GT Sport would add to the braking problems.

I haven’t checked but I’m sure PC2 would have a good amount of down force for the La Ferrari like in real life

 

[Sander 001]

Here’s James May (aka Captain Slow)’s review of the LaFerrari



Everything he describes and demonstrates is the opposite of what the LaFerrari is in GT Sport!

 

[ScottPuss20]

The lack of frontal down force in GT Sport would add to the braking problems.

I haven’t checked but I’m sure PC2 would have a good amount of down force for the La Ferrari like in real life

The car has a heap of front downforce in Project Cars 2. In GT Sport it's as if there's none.