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Well, that's what you think but still, people won't take that off their minds so easily for sure.Spa's overrated imo. Much more excited about racing on Tsukuba.
Well, that's what you think but still, people won't take that off their minds so easily for sure.Spa's overrated imo. Much more excited about racing on Tsukuba.
''Well, that's what you think but still, people won't take that off their minds so easily for sure.
It's PD, dude. What do you expect?''
Im a little triggered that and Laguna still hasnt been added
Found interesting video on how to spit exhaust flames simultaneously on GTS for those who don't know about it yet. Might be useful if you want to get shots with exhaust flames. 👍 Or when you just bored that is
With so much power it was bound to blow up someday.If you missed the timing, you'll get disastrous photos like these...
(Don't worry, it may only happen with super-fast cars.)
I Googled up the PlayStation Theatre. Looks like it's mostly used for music concerts...GT World Tour 3 New York
https://www.gran-turismo.com/world/gtsport/worldtour2019/newyork/
New Partnership will be revealed and Pro-Am race with a former F1 racer will be held.
That's hotIf you missed the timing, you'll get disastrous photos like these...
(Don't worry, it may only happen with super-fast cars.)
Am I missing something obvious. Where does it say there will be a new partnership. Could this have something to do with the Nations Cup Final being TBA?GT World Tour 3 New York
https://www.gran-turismo.com/world/gtsport/worldtour2019/newyork/
New Partnership will be revealed and Pro-Am race with a former F1 racer will be held.
Probably the latter. Lol.I Googled up the PlayStation Theatre. Looks like it's mostly used for music concerts...
Is there any hint that he will be there, finally? Or is it just wishful thinking on my part? o_o
Spa's overrated imo. Much more excited about racing on Tsukuba.
What's so exciting about racing there? There one place to pass, maybe two if you're lucky, and the fact that the circuit is so small/narrow means that the competing cars can only be so powerful before it becomes a mess. I honestly sort of loathe it alongside the smaller circuits like Suzuka East, because the races there never have enough laps to make a difference otherwise - it's not like you can wait for someone in front of you to make a mistake because they have less time to even make a mistake. Plus drafting and traction off-road is never set to "real" unless it's with cars not in the N-series, so you can't really rely on passing on a straight, either, unless the guy in front of you REALLY messed up. It's Sport Mode. PD should stop trying to make "beginners" rulesets with the three "Daily" races and have the following rules be typical, with only seldom exceptions: light damage, realistic draft and traction off-road, and fuel/tire consumption each set to 1x, with enough laps in a race to not take up a player's whole day, but still enough that almost anything can happen. Maybe even have a mandatory pit stop or two, for some events. And the qualifying should be more like the championship races, where it's one qualifying session per race, and you're immediately going to the race with the car you used for qualifying.
Am I missing something obvious. Where does it say there will be a new partnership.
https://www.gran-turismo.com/world/gtsport/worldtour2019/newyork/race_structure/Could this have something to do with the Nations Cup Final being TBA?
MC GT300 cars are on par with GT300 cars though. PD seem to be updating certain car models, than what we might have expected. '65 Mini with roll cage, for example.My hypothesis why the Mazda Roadster TC was added to the N-series is because the "staple" groups are relatively uniform in power & weight, even before BoP. Whereas while the TCs/RMs from prior games are indeed enhanced versions of the respective road cars, their upgrades don't lead to all TCs/RMs being relatively similar in power & weight.
According to this promotional video, the classes are further defined as per the following descriptions:
Gr.4 - "Relatively subtle aero parts and weight reductions."
Gr.3 - 1350kg, 550-600HP
Gr.1 - 900kg, ~1000HP
Gr.B - 4WD, 500HP or more.
However, this video is from the launch window, before the introduction of Gr.2. We also should consider that the vision of a game and its scope could change over time. In my personal glance at the data, here are the current ranges of each class in terms of power & weight. Keep in mind that these metrics are before BoP applications:
Gr.4 - 2105-3638kg, 296-436HP, comparatively light modifications.
Gr.3 - 2568-2976kg, 495-678HP, FR/MR only
Gr.1 - 830-1250kg, 501-939HP, various Sports Prototypes.
Gr.B - 1000-1380kg, 500-589HP, 4WD only
Gr.2 (not available at time of video's release) - 1020-1150kg, 487-614HP, FR/MR only, extraordinary aero kits.
There are some exceptions where cars will be outside these ranges, but not by much. For example, the Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car is only about 1165kg, and the Mercedes-Benz AMG-GT3 is a little above the 600HP mark that's mentioned in the promo video, at 613HP. Perhaps these metrics mentioned in the video are the intended stats for after BoP is applied. Which makes me wonder: would it end up being more fair if every car in a class had an almost uniform power and weight after BoP is applied?
That said, with all this in mind, I think we can use these stats to get an idea of what cars would go into these "staple" groups, both from prior GT games as well as real life. Going by GT6's car list, here are my conclusive picks for which cars would be in which class if they came to GTS:
Gr.4: Alfa Romeo 155TI, BMW 320i Touring Car, Jaguar XJ220 LM Race Car, Lexus IS-F CCS-R, Lexus IS-F Touring Car, Mazda RX-7 Touring Car, Mercedes-Benz 190E Evo II Race Car, Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX Touring Car, Nissan Calsonic Skyline GT-R R32, Nissan Falken GT-R R34, Nissan GT-R R35 Touring Car, Nissan Skyline GT-R R32, R33, and R34 Touring Cars, Nissan Silvia S15 Touring Car, Pagani Zonda LM Race Car, Subaru Impreza Touring Car, Toyota Altezza Touring Car
Gr.3: Acura NSX LM Race Car, Audi R8 LMS - Team Oreca, Audi R8 LMS Ultra, R8 (LMP which was the road car's namesake), Blitz Dunlop ER34 Skyline, BMW M3 GTR Race Car, Chevrolet Camaro Mk.IV Race Car, Chevrolet Corvette C5-R, Chevrolet Corvette (C6) Z06 Race Car (also the ZR1 version), Ford Falcon XR8, Lister Storm Race Car, Mazda RX-7 LM Race Car, Mitsubishi FTO Super Touring Car, Lamborghini Nomad Diablo GT-1, Mercedes-Benz CLK Touring Car, Subaru Impreza Super Touring Car
Gr.1: Pretty much all cars from Group C, LMP900, LMGTP (such as the TS020), and LMP1. Not sure about that Zytek LMP2 car, though, nor the Toyota 7. The Chaparral cars, of course, would likely be put into Gr.X, though the 2D could find a home in a historic sports prototype class if it were made, perhaps alongside the Ferrari 330 P4, Jaguar XJ13, and Ford Mark IV.
Gr.B: Audi Quattro S1 Rally Car, maybe the other Group B cars, but I'm not sure.
Gr.2: [Pretty much every prior GT500 car from both JGTC and Super GT], Lexus IS-F Racing Concept, [many, if not all the GT1-spec cars from after the BPR era, as well as the various DTMasters cars which are not to be confused with the other DTM, being DTMeisterschaft],
Keep in mind that in spite of having some classes feature both modern and older race cars, I think this potential issue would be greatly mitigated if there were more events where only some cars within a class could be used, like the recent Gr.4 events that only permit the FF cars within that class, or the N300 races which featured the "Gentleman's Agreement" JDM cars.
Other interesting notes:
-While the GT300 cars like the Autobacs Arta Garaiya or Weds Sport IS350 seem like they'd be a good fit for Gr.3, they have notably less power than the rest of the Gr.3 cars, including the made-for-game Lancer Evo X Gr.3 and WRX STI Gr.3, which both resemble GT300 cars.
-Similarly, while a lot of the real-world Group B cars seem like a shoe-in for Gr.B, their power and weight metrics seem quite lower than the rest of the cars currently in that class.
-As an aside, I still don't see why the BMW M3 (E92) GT isn't called the M3 GT2, unless that was its title within BMW.
-Some of the hillclimb cars may have too much power to be in Gr.B, like the Suzuki Escudo.
MC GT300 cars are on par with GT300 cars though. PD seem to be updating certain car models, than what we might have expected. '65 Mini with roll cage, for example.
Placing the GT2 M3 and One Make Megane in their newly respective classes, are a wonder why PD even added those in this game. Regardless of bumping up car count.
The MX-5 is a miss in logic.
Ww know PD made each Group based in the real world equivalents. The ill-logic started when Group C, the GT2 car, Megane, etc were placed in their now respective categories.I’m sorry but I’m having a real hard time understanding your post. Aren’t there still FIA GT4-eligible one-make cars in real life? Plus Gr.3 already included GTE/GT2 from day zero with the 911 RSR. How is the MX-5 an oddity if its power & weight is far beyond the typical metrics for Gr.4?
Also, what do you think of my predictions otherwise?
The way it looks, it's like PD THINK they've painted themselves into a corner when that actually haven't. Just make sub goups. Easy fix. However, the Manufacturers Cup is almost ruining the original vision of the cars they built for that Group. It's dribbled onto everything else.Group 1 frustrates me greatly... almost to a unreasonable degree since I see so much wasted opportunity.
GR.1 has VGT, LMP-H, 2000 era 'pre-hybrid' LMPs. 1990's 5 spd manual Group C cars and I'm betting they put the new Super Sport Hypercar WEC series there too.
To me anyway it becomes a "McLaren VGT and Audi R18" two way gangbang because everyone elses gets ganked by these two.
Further to this, PD dont exploit their own assets to any degree.
Where is the synthetic "Legends of Group C" leagues series? Where is the Mazda Miata race car spec series?
New music for a Spec 2.0 Opening Trailer?!?!??!?I Googled up the PlayStation Theatre. Looks like it's mostly used for music concerts...
Is there any hint that he will be there, finally? Or is it just wishful thinking on my part? o_o
*Gr.1*Nissan R390 GT1 '98
Mercedes-Benz CLK-LM '98
Unless Jordan's deliberately hiding something or there is a change in schedule, no, Daiki isn't performing there live unlike I suspected earlier.New music for a Spec 2.0 Opening Trailer?!?!??!?
New job positions available and they look pretty interesting in terms of game development. Like the second half or even the last third of its development.
http://www.polyphony.co.jp/recruit/jobs/1434/
http://www.polyphony.co.jp/recruit/jobs/1443/
Writer?
Could it be my dream of PD creating an actual narrative to a racing driver's journey becoming reality?