Gran Turismo World Series (Manufacturers Cup Exhibition Season: Feb 5 - Feb 15)

[GTWolverine]

How do you define the Slot 1 and Slot 6 races as "Top Split"?

When there's no other splits above it.

 

[RobertHammer]

uff this Z race , it can be fun but there are many drivers that will push or pingpong you away
tried this race 3 times with Z '23:

1. Q: P10- okayish laps not fast enough , R: P10- could have done much better if i had my braking points right and many track cuts...

2. Q: P14- uff couldn't get any proper lap, R: P16- oh god this one was my one of the worst driving ever , everything bad that could happen happened , also it killed my SR from S to B ...

3. Q: P11- eh laps , R: P8- started great been many incidents so i took the advantage reached P4 , after some laps some guy pushed me lost my P4 and then i made mistake that costed me 3 positions but luckily some guys had penalties so i ended up P8 - i could have done much better

 

[Zorz]

Fishermans Ranch in VR is going to be an "interesting" experience (get the sick bags ready, maybe?!)

The time has come. 😅

I'm really torn on this next round after doing some practice last night. For me, VR actually feels like it makes rallying significantly easier but at the cost of being a massive affront to the senses. This is definitely testing the newly acquired VR legs!

The camera doesn't like jumps at all. I think I've seen others refer to it as being "locked to the horizon"? When you go over a jump, you sometimes end up looking at the pedals even whilst keeping your head still.

For anyone who's curious what a VR lap looks like, here's one of mine whilst I was going through trying the various cars to see which suits me best:


The jump on the "back straight" about halfway through the lap (go to around 1:15) shows the camera issue pretty well.

Speaking of jumps, I wonder how many people are going to randomly die mid-race thanks to how GT7's physics manages landings. Lifting off in advance and rolling through still seems to be rolling the dice, even though it does increase the odds of surviving.

And hopefully the points will count this time after the entire round glitched out last time this combo came up...

 

[Cabelmania]

My God, the n.1 time right now in the table of Fisherman He's a mad man I'm like 11 second slower I imagine that changing the torque and the brake balance will be really important there

I have also a question for fellow Aston Martin drivers: Is better the Vantage or the DBR at Spa ?

 

[Zorz]

My God, the n.1 time right now in the table of Fisherman He's a mad man I'm like 11 second slower I imagine that changing the torque and the brake balance will be really important there

I have also a question for fellow Aston Martin drivers: Is better the Vantage or the DBR at Spa ?

I was Aston Martin in last year's main season and for the grand final demo at Spa. The Vantage served me very well in the grand final demo as I managed to win after starting P12 for about 270 points, so it's definitely not bad. I was rocketing along whilst it was wet, it seemed to handle very well under the circumstances.

 

[Roggers]

The time has come. 😅

I'm really torn on this next round after doing some practice last night. For me, VR actually feels like it makes rallying significantly easier but at the cost of being a massive affront to the senses. This is definitely testing the newly acquired VR legs!

The camera doesn't like jumps at all. I think I've seen others refer to it as being "locked to the horizon"? When you go over a jump, you sometimes end up looking at the pedals even whilst keeping your head still.

For anyone who's curious what a VR lap looks like, here's one of mine whilst I was going through trying the various cars to see which suits me best:


The jump on the "back straight" about halfway through the lap (go to around 1:15) shows the camera issue pretty well.

Speaking of jumps, I wonder how many people are going to randomly die mid-race thanks to how GT7's physics manages landings. Lifting off in advance and rolling through still seems to be rolling the dice, even though it does increase the odds of surviving.

And hopefully the points will count this time after the entire round glitched out last time this combo came up...

I did a few laps last night in VR for this event and I agree with what you say. It makes rallying feel so much more easier and is for me the best VR experience. My only doubts about doing this in VR is going to be spatial awareness.

As for the jumps I don’t think I’ve experienced that issue of locking onto the horizon and then viewing the drivers feet etc… I had a few moments though over the jumps were I’m just looking at sky for a long time and I cant spot my landing position.

No DR/SR effected for this race, so will probably attempt my first VR online race.

 

[SnakeEyes427]

I'm not at my console, either, but this should help. Tires are sport medium. No pit.

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Thank you. I ended up in the '08 Z. Starting 15th and finishing in 7th. I do wish it would have been a clearer race but, you can't fix stupid. 🙈🙉🙊

 

[Pfei]

Thank you. I ended up in the '08 Z. Starting 15th and finishing in 7th. I do wish it would have been a clearer race but, you can't fix stupid. 🙈🙉🙊

Well that's not bad. The '23 was clearly the car to use since BoP was not active for this race.

 

[JoeDaSnow]

Entering the two rounds of this season's Nations Cup, I had finished in second in both of them. I had also made by season debut at the Manufacturers Cup at round 2 winning a race. In that season of the MC, I reverted back to Toyota.

 

[Fezzik]

My God, the n.1 time right now in the table of Fisherman He's a mad man I'm like 11 second slower I imagine that changing the torque and the brake balance will be really important there

I have also a question for fellow Aston Martin drivers: Is better the Vantage or the DBR at Spa ?

I didn't run the Vantage much in seasons 1 & 2, but from what I understand the DBR is better on fuel and (to me) seemed lighter on the tyres - should be an advantage for this mini-endurance round.

 

[samppa_944]

Gonna have to start practicing for Nations today already, as Fisherman's ranch in Gr. B is not a combo you can just master in 15-20 min and then jump in a race. In GTS i practiced like 2 hours or so, before finding my best pace.

 

[Fezzik]

Any ideas yet as to competitive machinery? I don't have much time the next couple fof days to test all the GrBs.
Don't like the dumb fake ones like the Mustang and NSX - I may just run the Celica.

 

[Dep Fishtail]

Any ideas yet as to competitive machinery? I don't have much time the next couple fof days to test all the GrBs.
Don't like the dumb fake ones like the Mustang and NSX - I may just run the Celica.

I’ve had my best laps in the evo.
Seems fast and handled the jumps better than any of the others for my driving abilities.

Not sure if there’s a bunch of wall riding to get to the 2:49 leaderboard time.

Tried a bunch of cars over about an hour. My best last night was 3:09 but still lots of time left on the track. Consistent laps were easier in the evo too.

 

[Zorz]

Any ideas yet as to competitive machinery? I don't have much time the next couple fof days to test all the GrBs.
Don't like the dumb fake ones like the Mustang and NSX - I may just run the Celica.

They all look viable from the free practice times, so maybe just run a lap with each to see if any stand out for you (either good or bad) then pick one and learn how to push it IMO. Rallying seems to be far more technique and smoothness than anything.

I'm running the Ford Focus myself which seems one of the less popular choices last time I looked. I started off doing 3:07-3:08s on Saturday night, but now thats down to having a 2:58.3 from running laps and learning what does/doesn't work.

 

[Yard_Sale]

Anyone know the laps/multipliers for Manu @ Spa on Saturday?

 

[Fezzik]

Anyone know the laps/multipliers for Manu @ Spa on Saturday?

24 laps, 5 mins qualifying (seriously PD, WTF?), fuel x2, tyre x3, RH/IM/HW, no mandatory stop or tyre type, partial BB adjustment.

 

[Yard_Sale]

24 laps, 5 mins qualifying (seriously PD, WTF?), fuel x2, tyre x3, RH/IM/HW, no mandatory stop or tyre type, partial BB adjustment.

So nearly an hour long race? Wow. Nice

 

[Fezzik]

So nearly an hour long race? Wow. Nice

Yep, especially as it’s likely to rain.

 

[Tidgney]

Well, the usual T1 garbage pretty much ruined my race. Went from P7 to P13 and never got any better than that. Even worse, I got binned by one of @Tidgney 's team members who never bothered to wait and only apologized afterwards. I can't even get a break from the reputable clean guys!

I sure wish there was more than one viable car in this race. My overall review of this race: I give it three "mehs" and that's me being optimistic.

Sorry to hear it was someone from TCR, can you direct message me a replay at all?

 

[samppa_944]

I’ve had my best laps in the evo.
Seems fast and handled the jumps better than any of the others for my driving abilities.

Not sure if there’s a bunch of wall riding to get to the 2:49 leaderboard time.

Tried a bunch of cars over about an hour. My best last night was 3:09 but still lots of time left on the track. Consistent laps were easier in the evo too.

Yeah, I kinda figured Evo is the meta in gr b these days, but not by much. I'll start practicing today in that one, and also the gt86 gr b, which I have used as my preferred gr b car in gts dirt races (with pretty good success) and many times in gt7 too. Then whicever I like more is the one I use for the races tomorrow.

 

[Zorz]

Something I just found which may be helpful to others: the upcoming Nations round seems to override your torque distribution.

I've been manually setting my Gr.B Focus to 50:50 at the start of each new free practice session in Sport Mode as the car was constantly starting in 40:60. I eventually decided to just set it in my garage to lock the setting in and be done with it... then found it still defaults to 40:60 when starting a new session.

If you prefer using a different distribution, it might be worth double-checking you're in the one you want (especially tomorrow) in case this isn't just some weird glitch affecting me.

Edit - It's probably the BOP settings, come to think of it.

 

[Pfei]

I know it's early for Manu but I just did 25 laps at Spa in the free practice and the weather was the same throughout... overcast. Not sure if that is indicative of anything in the race itself.

 

[Hasnain282]

I know it's early for Manu but I just did 25 laps at Spa in the free practice and the weather was the same throughout... overcast. Not sure if that is indicative of anything in the race itself.

Apparently it's different each time you load up a session

 

[Snake55wildcat]

Any ideas yet as to competitive machinery? I don't have much time the next couple fof days to test all the GrBs.
Don't like the dumb fake ones like the Mustang and NSX - I may just run the Celica.

All I know is the Ford Focus and Subaru are the popular choices, the 205 is useless and the class as a whole is relatively well balanced aside from that,

I personally like the feel of the NSX the most, it feels agile in a way the others don't, but I do like half the class overall, for me it would be the NSX, then either the RCZ or the Mustang, then the Hyundai Genesis, then the Lancer, then everything else....also the Celica gets unrealistically buffed to be competitive so by that point you are still using a "fake car" by your standards anyway if it helps, all of the cars are Turbo aspiration aside from the 86, Mustang and Genesis, but even the Na cars are competitive...aside from the aforementioned 205

I'm personally really looking forward to this race just for the chaos and fun it could potentially provide

 

[samppa_944]

Any ideas yet as to competitive machinery? I don't have much time the next couple fof days to test all the GrBs.
Don't like the dumb fake ones like the Mustang and NSX - I may just run the Celica.

I will be running the Lancer, it felt good and pretty stable, but you still get rotation in the tight corners. Tried the 86 which I have previously prefered, but the rear was a bit too snappy.

 

[Fezzik]

Thanks for all the suggestions. I think I’ll stick with my manufacturer in this series as well and run the Focus.

Hopefully I can actually squeeze in a round late this evening - life has got in the way and made me miss the first 2 races.

 

[D_Dragline]

I have never come to grips with rallying in GT. There are just some seriously weird things that I can’t wrap my head around. In real rally cars, the difference between driving on the compacted gravel and the loose stuff is huge. In GT, it seems to make no difference. And the physics of leaving the ground are so unrealistic. It’s like the cars are filled with helium and subject to drifting from the smallest of breezes.

This round didn’t improve any of that for me. P7, 177 points and a lot of frustration means I’m one and done.

At least I got to have a fun battle with @Raptor013 for a few laps.

 

[Snake55wildcat]

Feels good, might even be my best round this mini season

 

[SPL170db]

For some reason I seem to do well @ Fisherman's Ranch, the last I had checked before the race my practice lap was 110'ish in the rankings so not too bad. Jumped into the first slot GT1 in my region, looked to be a top split I think as 1st place was 248pts. Only 9 people showed up in the lobby, Q'd in 3rd but the next guy in 4th on down were ~5 sec slower so I knew 3rd was a lock minus any foul ups. On the first lap the leader messed up one of the first couple jump landings and hit Barry Are...moved past up to second. Later in the lap 1st made a mistake and I slid into the lead. Held it for about 1/2 the lap until I messed up on the back straight jump and got passed. A lap later the polesetter caught me and passed putting me back to 3rd, then he moved up and a lap later passed for the lead again. I reeled in 2nd place on the last lap when he made an error and we were neck and neck. Going into that 180 at the top of the hill just before the finish he went in hot and hit the barrier, but I didn't cut in properly to capitalize and lost all my momentum. I briefly grabbed 2nd back but slid a little wide in the last corner and he ducked back under for 2nd. I was happy with a 3rd and 227pts.

Fun race overall even though I'm not generally fond of rally/dirt in this game, maybe I'm starting to develop a love/hate relationship with Fishermans Ranch lol.

 

[Roggers]

Enjoyed Nations today but also was very fustrating!

So as this was a no DR/SR I decided to attempt this in VR. During the time trial I actually found it easier to drive in VR, and felt I had way more car control than in bumper cam.

Race 1 - 11am - qualified in P10 out of 12 drivers plus lobby was quite weak with 80ish points the max. Race starts and as I expected it was just crazy! Make a few places in the first 2 corners and after the first jump, but then the crazy starts. Spanish driver decides the best way to race is just to hit others to slow down. This then starts getting others around to do the same. Next 5 laps just turned into people punting each other. Finished in P9

Race 2 - 12am - qualified P8 this time out of 14. Points still low. Race started fairly cleanly this time. Made up a position and was running P7 until lap 3. On lap 3 a car behind just decided they was going to punt me straight off. This put me back to P12. Lap 4 the car ahead had picked up a 3 seconds penalty from somewhere? I close in and halfway round the lap were racing each other. I make no contact with them, but as I’m going up the inside they start to push me into the barrier. Get past and next corner I see them in the mirror lining up a punt on me, luckily I managed to just avoid it. Last lap on the first jump I made the rookie mistake and into the barriers and ended up finishing P13.

At this point I didn’t really have time to race again, but I couldn’t leave it at that so went again.

Race 3 1pm
Quali - first flying lap I make a small mistake which cost me 3/4 seconds but I just managed to cross the line with 0.01 seconds to start my last lap. This time I do a great lap and start P4.

Race - Been at the front of the pack is so much more cleaner racing. Manage to get P3 early on, but then half way round I just clip the barrier which then makes me lose 4 places. The next 4 laps I had a great battle with P5, P6 & myself in P7. The racing was super fair with maybe a few dodgy push to passes. Last lap all 3 of us are going full send. Heading into the last corner I’m down in P7 and the French driver ahead decides to do a final send on the German but gets it wrong. I try and sneak through on the inside but the German just had it covered and I take P6. Fun and great race. Might jump back on later tonight and race again.