Gran Turismo World Series (Nations Cup 2025 Exhibition Season 2: 26 Feb - 8 Mar)
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well, this morning's system crash looks like it really cost me more DR than my P10 finish should have. It is down to nearly 75% now. Which has me in a lower scoring lobby for this afternoon's try. And it was a slower lobby, although I don't always assume DR and pace are at all correlated, I had a similar q time and started P5 here (P10 this am)
But seriously, the lag today made my second race undrivable (Genesis again). At least twice I lifted thinking I was going to hit someone when they woudl suddenly dart ahead 0.1 or 0.2 and I lost a P or two each time. On top of that, I allowed myself to get blocked off the pit lane, so 3 second penalty. Finished P8 but without that 3-4 sec handicap I could have had 5 or 6. Didn't even do my DR any good with another run at GVH and I do like driving here.
Are others seeing this lag today? My connection is never the best but it is typically manageable. I might stick to TTs or dailyA's until this lag improves (assuming its not my connection)
But seriously, the lag today made my second race undrivable (Genesis again). At least twice I lifted thinking I was going to hit someone when they woudl suddenly dart ahead 0.1 or 0.2 and I lost a P or two each time. On top of that, I allowed myself to get blocked off the pit lane, so 3 second penalty. Finished P8 but without that 3-4 sec handicap I could have had 5 or 6. Didn't even do my DR any good with another run at GVH and I do like driving here.
Are others seeing this lag today? My connection is never the best but it is typically manageable. I might stick to TTs or dailyA's until this lag improves (assuming its not my connection)
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Yeah. Lag was terrible for me too.
At around 7 laps and intermittent for the next few. Around lap 10 another big lag and as I drive through some traffic which wasn’t sure if it was real, I came away with 6 seconds for passing 2 cars on yellow flag and the car in front of me got 3 seconds for passing 1 car on yellow somehow 🤷🏻♂️. Lag again around laps 18-20. Not good and thought about quitting because it was so bad.
Started p12 in a lower A/S lobby with 3 other RCZ’s 😁 one was on pole and ran away with the race.
I started on RM and other than losing 3 places with my 6 second lag yellow flag penalty I was constantly on pace and moving forward.
Pitted after lap 12 for RS only and ran them until I finished lap 22 when I got my last RS and a splash of fuel.
Finished p8 and didn’t score enough points to increase my season score so will wait and see where this lands me.
Fun race working through strategies and having options to make the most of it.
GL to those who are going later in the final slots.
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Well, that should have been a 1 and done, but I didn't listen to myself.
Did the first GT1 slot using the '18 GTR. Had a not so great qualifying and ended up starting 11th. Moved up a bit, moved back a bit, but I fry tires so ultimately ended up finishing right where I started in 11th.
Skipped the 2nd slot and ran to the gym. Came home and decided to jump into the last slot. Took the Supra instead, Q'd a little better in 9th. Got off to a decent start and moved up to 7th and was rolling pretty good with the front pack. Then on the 2nd lap heading into the downhill hairpin I get absolutely slammed from behind like the guy behind me didn't even touch the brakes, sending me off into Barry R and giving me a 1.5 sec penalty for my troubles. Car is also completely damaged. By the time I get rolling again I'm down around 13/14th. Get moving again over the rest of the stint manage to make up a few spots back up to 10th I think it was. Then a few laps later like deja vu the same guy rams into the back of me again sending me flying off the track again, damaging my car again and giving me a penalty again. By race end I was next to last. I don't know what's up with some folks out there. 🤷♂️
Did the first GT1 slot using the '18 GTR. Had a not so great qualifying and ended up starting 11th. Moved up a bit, moved back a bit, but I fry tires so ultimately ended up finishing right where I started in 11th.
Skipped the 2nd slot and ran to the gym. Came home and decided to jump into the last slot. Took the Supra instead, Q'd a little better in 9th. Got off to a decent start and moved up to 7th and was rolling pretty good with the front pack. Then on the 2nd lap heading into the downhill hairpin I get absolutely slammed from behind like the guy behind me didn't even touch the brakes, sending me off into Barry R and giving me a 1.5 sec penalty for my troubles. Car is also completely damaged. By the time I get rolling again I'm down around 13/14th. Get moving again over the rest of the stint manage to make up a few spots back up to 10th I think it was. Then a few laps later like deja vu the same guy rams into the back of me again sending me flying off the track again, damaging my car again and giving me a penalty again. By race end I was next to last. I don't know what's up with some folks out there. 🤷♂️
Horrible last race for me. Missed the first race by 10 minutes or so coming back from an event. 2nd race, got punted (by a TCR tag/livery no less), then had horrible tire wear and couldn't even do the 2 stop. 3rd race, disconnected during qualifying. Sigh... Guess it just wasn't meant to be. Well, I got to the middle of A rank and top 100 in the US. That'll work for me. Next goal, A+...
But enough about me! I know most people here don't seem to actually care about the World Series events, but I do! So... Here are the preliminary Nations Cup teams. This is, of course, pending confirmation that everyone is eligible and able/willing to attend.
If the top player only is what qualifies a country
NA - 2
USA - Calen, Windfire, Cooper (R.Haywood will regret missing rounds 4-6)
Canada - E. Lim, Rush, S. Cardinal (who took it from Lester in the last race)
Asia - 2
Japan - tokari71, Takuan, CRV (Osakana missed out by 1 point)
Malaysia - D. Wigneswaran, T. AIMAN, I. Suji
LATAM - 2
Brazil - A. Carrazza, L. Bonelli, IOF
Chile - A. Inostroza, H. Walsen, N. Arriagada
Oceania - 1
NZ - McEwen, Sidawg, Atom
(Note: Nearly all the top drivers sat out the last race, meaning no one had a chance to catch McEwen. One of the flaws of this system, I guess...)
Europe - 5
Spain - J. Serrano, C. Lopez, P. Urra (N. Romero 19 behind)
France - Kylian, TSUTSU, Aphe
Italy - G. Mangano, M. Busnelli, V. Gallo
Netherlands - K. De Bruin, F. Simmerman, RK23
Belgium - Q. Jehoul, G. Baccellieri, K. De Vroe (Note: K. De Vroe is out of the top 100 in EU)
(Note: P. Blazan from Hungary ended up 25 points behind after missing the last 2 races. Coyote from the UK was 29 points behind.)
If the combined score of all 3 top players qualifies a country
NZ is replaced by Australia - G. Barbara, Emree, jeeesh
Belgium is replaced by UK - Coyote, Will, J. Balding
But enough about me! I know most people here don't seem to actually care about the World Series events, but I do! So... Here are the preliminary Nations Cup teams. This is, of course, pending confirmation that everyone is eligible and able/willing to attend.
If the top player only is what qualifies a country
NA - 2
USA - Calen, Windfire, Cooper (R.Haywood will regret missing rounds 4-6)
Canada - E. Lim, Rush, S. Cardinal (who took it from Lester in the last race)
Asia - 2
Japan - tokari71, Takuan, CRV (Osakana missed out by 1 point)
Malaysia - D. Wigneswaran, T. AIMAN, I. Suji
LATAM - 2
Brazil - A. Carrazza, L. Bonelli, IOF
Chile - A. Inostroza, H. Walsen, N. Arriagada
Oceania - 1
NZ - McEwen, Sidawg, Atom
(Note: Nearly all the top drivers sat out the last race, meaning no one had a chance to catch McEwen. One of the flaws of this system, I guess...)
Europe - 5
Spain - J. Serrano, C. Lopez, P. Urra (N. Romero 19 behind)
France - Kylian, TSUTSU, Aphe
Italy - G. Mangano, M. Busnelli, V. Gallo
Netherlands - K. De Bruin, F. Simmerman, RK23
Belgium - Q. Jehoul, G. Baccellieri, K. De Vroe (Note: K. De Vroe is out of the top 100 in EU)
(Note: P. Blazan from Hungary ended up 25 points behind after missing the last 2 races. Coyote from the UK was 29 points behind.)
If the combined score of all 3 top players qualifies a country
NZ is replaced by Australia - G. Barbara, Emree, jeeesh
Belgium is replaced by UK - Coyote, Will, J. Balding
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I just want to make sure I'm understanding this right - with this points system, if you score enough points to where you think you'll qualify early, it's then optimal to not enter any more rounds, because you'll take your DR out of the pool and thus make it so that your opponents can't score as many points? If so that seems like a loophole they should fix for next time.
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Well ended up 3rd in the UK and 29th in EMEA GT2, slightly gutted having been top since round 4 but given the dropped scores was always a possibility. Well done to everyone was a more enjoyable season than I was expecting.
Yeah that's right, it's trying to thread a needle where if players miss rounds it's not going to effect them negatively but as you can see the top players will exploit it if they have good opening rounds.
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- Zorzil
So now that the Nations season is over...
I'm extremely happy with that, and I think I've finally found my confidence racing in VR.
I don't do daily races so GTWS rounds are literally the only opportunities I've had to try get used to actually racing other people with it since it launched.
Even though they changed the criteria for attaining S rank to be world finalists only towards the end of GT Sport, I still try to aim for the old cutoffs to have something to strive for. This is therefore an honorary S rank in my head, being in the top 200 overall.
I think these longer races in GT1 play into my strengths a little bit. Qualifying continues to be a weak point for me, but apparently my general consistency and ability to survive is pretty good for the high A/low A+ range. Either that or I've been extremely lucky.
I just seem to be clawing my way up from towards the back a lot lately. Rounds 4 and 5 were pain points, but other than that I had a lot of very good results.
Round 1: Q13 > P5
Round 2: Q6 > P5
Round 3: Q3 > P2
Round 4: Q3 > P8 (twice)
Round 5: Q14 > P12, Q9 > P10
Round 6: Q12 > P4
Round 7: Q12 > P4
My showdown with the other guy from East Yorkshire abruptly stopped after round 3 since he didn't take part in any further rounds beyond that. I would have come out on top if I hadn't done any more rounds either, but only via a technicality. We were tied on overall points from the first 3 rounds, but I had the higher individual points result.
What really surprised me was that another contender showed up halfway through the season who's VERY highly rated (about halfway through A+), but he only did the two Group 4 rounds. Had he done the entire season, I very much doubt I'd have been local #1.
I'm extremely happy with that, and I think I've finally found my confidence racing in VR.
I don't do daily races so GTWS rounds are literally the only opportunities I've had to try get used to actually racing other people with it since it launched.Even though they changed the criteria for attaining S rank to be world finalists only towards the end of GT Sport, I still try to aim for the old cutoffs to have something to strive for. This is therefore an honorary S rank in my head, being in the top 200 overall.
I think these longer races in GT1 play into my strengths a little bit. Qualifying continues to be a weak point for me, but apparently my general consistency and ability to survive is pretty good for the high A/low A+ range. Either that or I've been extremely lucky.
I just seem to be clawing my way up from towards the back a lot lately. Rounds 4 and 5 were pain points, but other than that I had a lot of very good results.Round 1: Q13 > P5
Round 2: Q6 > P5
Round 3: Q3 > P2
Round 4: Q3 > P8 (twice)
Round 5: Q14 > P12, Q9 > P10
Round 6: Q12 > P4
Round 7: Q12 > P4
My showdown with the other guy from East Yorkshire abruptly stopped after round 3 since he didn't take part in any further rounds beyond that. I would have come out on top if I hadn't done any more rounds either, but only via a technicality. We were tied on overall points from the first 3 rounds, but I had the higher individual points result.
What really surprised me was that another contender showed up halfway through the season who's VERY highly rated (about halfway through A+), but he only did the two Group 4 rounds. Had he done the entire season, I very much doubt I'd have been local #1.
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There's a thread for the Toyota championship, but I think it had fallen off the front page:
Gran Turismo Toyota Gazoo Racing GT Cup Returns for 2023 Season
This is the discussion thread for an article on GTPlanet: Gran Turismo Toyota Gazoo Racing GT Cup Returns for 2023 Season The Toyota Gazoo Racing GT Cup will return for the 2023 season, with seven online rounds held within Gran Turismo 7 and culminating in a live final in November...
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You're in GT2 aren't you? From what I've seen on the guide @Mistah_MCA put up (which is greatly appreciated - thank you for spending the time making them!) I'd be going for a Medium no-stop in the 8-lap race, assuming it's a dry start with no immediate rain on the horizon. It sounds like you'll just about be able to make the tyres last that long if it stays dry.
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Well already made the mistake to pit for inters as it looked like a load of rain incoming only for it never to happen despite covering the radar window, oh PD lol, won't be making that choice again.There's a thread for the Toyota championship, but I think it had fallen off the front page:
Gran Turismo Toyota Gazoo Racing GT Cup Returns for 2023 Season
This is the discussion thread for an article on GTPlanet: Gran Turismo Toyota Gazoo Racing GT Cup Returns for 2023 Season The Toyota Gazoo Racing GT Cup will return for the 2023 season, with seven online rounds held within Gran Turismo 7 and culminating in a live final in November...
You're in GT2 aren't you? From what I've seen on the guide @Mistah_MCA put up (which is greatly appreciated - thank you for spending the time making them!) I'd be going for a Medium no-stop in the 8-lap race, assuming it's a dry start with no immediate rain on the horizon. It sounds like you'll just about be able to make the tyres last that long if it stays dry.
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Thanks for this info on the qualifiers.
Brazil - IOF - is that Fraga? I didn’t think Fraga was going to be going for GTWS what with the real racing he is doing.
As for Spain Pol Urra is currently under 18. He turns 18 this year but I’m not sure if he turns 18 before the Amsterdam event. Could be Nico Romero attending in his place.
Yeah when you enter your DR score determines how many points are available to be won. Once the top drivers drop out from the rounds the points start to decrease which then basically become impossible for some to qualify.
In EMEA Jose Serrano only did the first 3 rounds as he won all 3 and picked enough points to qualify. With him also not entering the last 3 rounds he basically removed his DR score from points you can win. It’s a stupid system really.
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Final standings from Nation's:
Ended up being ranked much lower than I thought I would this season, despite 3 finishes over 270 points.
For comparison, here was my result after last year's first official Nation's season (same number of counted rounds):
While I did end up with 26 more points last year, even if I'd scored 26 fewer points to end up with the same total as I had this year, I would've placed 17th overall and 11th in the US.
Ended up being ranked much lower than I thought I would this season, despite 3 finishes over 270 points.
For comparison, here was my result after last year's first official Nation's season (same number of counted rounds):
While I did end up with 26 more points last year, even if I'd scored 26 fewer points to end up with the same total as I had this year, I would've placed 17th overall and 11th in the US.
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I finally made top 100 barely but a new high mark for me. Happy with the results and surprised myself tbh.
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Funny how my second best round is actually my worst race ever. It was such a strong lobby for me finishing last gave me a lot of points. I'm sure I could have gotten way more points at Maggiore if I had tried a second time, but I like the idea of not having second chances.
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eh ok result , i hopefully will do better with manufacturer
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What's interesting here is that I've looked through the terms and conditions you get at signup (which should be available on the game's website but for some reason aren't - or at least aren't readily; same goes for 2022 actually) and I cannot find any explicit determination of how the "Top 12 Countries" will be selected.
However, I do have a third option: if the top player in each round is converted to a points score, like Manufacturers Cup, and the aggregate score is what qualifies a country.
I'm assuming that not to be the case, because I imagine this would have been communicated better to the S Rank players and Oceania gives a clear indication that if it had been they'd have done things differently. All three top NZ players skipped out every race after R3 (with the exception of Atom who drove in R6), and if the Manufacturers-style points were a thing that guarantees failure:
AUS - 36, 40, 36, 40, 40, 40, 40 = 272
NZL - 40, 36, 40, 36, 36, 36, 36 = 260
As a result, I can't be bothered trying to work it out for other, more complex regions
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- The failed experiment entitled “California”.
IOF is Fraga, yes.
tokari71 is also 17 but turns 18 soon, as I mentioned before. While checking his Twitter again I noticed he's been doing the TGR round, while racing at a F4 weekend... So I guess Fraga isn't the only one!
I do agree that more rounds should count. If they're too worried about people getting burned out, then they should make the races weekly instead of compressing them this much. There's no reason the whole season needs to be crammed into less than a month...
Any summary of what he said? His ACC streams are long!
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- The failed experiment entitled “California”.
The jist of it was more races. More races that count. And perhaps a dedicated “e-sports” time slot for the FIA rounds. He argued that if you’re actually serious about making the final, that you’re going to do whatever time commitment it takes to practice, and make the time slots. He also commented on how if you look at the top drivers daily mileage IG, they’re putting something like 8+ hours a day into the game.
There was more GT related stuff in general about how they could do better races, longer races, team races. How Sony….and not PD pull most of the strings when it comes to major game decisions. How PD does pay attention to streams/website comments….how they do play other racing games, ect. But I just had the stream playing on my earphones through my digital Walkman as I cooked an cleaned
…For better or worse, if you want to make it “big” in this game, you have to treat it like a job.
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I'm looking to step away from my usual choice of Ford for the upcoming Manufactures Cup as the new update has made my usual go to car in the Mustang near impossible for me to drive. Plus, I think it is time for a change anyway. I was leaning towards McLaren as I like how stable (for my driving style at least) the cars are and they were nice and easy to drive with the testing I did. I don't know how well they can keep up with the rest of the field though. I seen some praise in the thread for the McLaren so it must not be a bad option.
Any others I should consider signing up with? I'm open to some suggestions and will use the new daily races to do some testing. I'm in GT2 and it probably won't matter what I pick anyway. I just want to have some enjoyable racing and see what I can do with a new manufacturer.
Any others I should consider signing up with? I'm open to some suggestions and will use the new daily races to do some testing. I'm in GT2 and it probably won't matter what I pick anyway. I just want to have some enjoyable racing and see what I can do with a new manufacturer.
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It just gets replaced by the GTWS one when you enter the lobby.
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