Gran Turismo World Series (Manufacturers Cup 2025 Exhibition Season 2: 12 Mar - 22 Mar)

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Started 3rd, finished 4th, I'll take that.
Got punted off at the start, then idk got brake-tested in the final chicane so got a 2 sec penalty!
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Well, well, well what an eventful last round to the Nations cup races. My second attempt faired better than the first, Thr first was ridden with stupid 3sec penalties galore, so I gav eit another shot and I'm glad i did.

2nd attempt - GTWS Nation cuppy - Round 4 - EMEA region - 4pm slot - Honda SF23 - Aston livery - Lower C lobby!

The race started off pretty well, I was trailing on turns 1 & 2 to avoid any hanky panky, crashing and bumpin, so was following the leaders and chasing their lines. Held off the pack in 3rd place and kept going onto lap 2.

Just as we approach near the S bends exit, this silly french driver brakes so late leading up to the fast right snap corner and punts me right off and I spin into the gravel. Was fairly annoyed but recovered the car and got back into the racing fold.

Pushed and paced my way back up to 5th, crash incident made me 6th place. Was chasing an italian sloppy driver, who kept boobbing and weaving and not keeping a good line. I did kinda exhuast my overtake boost, but it helped my gain somes places on the fast stretches and overtake. Some good battling with a french driver between corners back and forth between 3rd & 4th place. I pitted early on lap 8 and was 3rd, sqitched to RM tyres and went back on to play catchup again.

A real jostle to the finish line, the last lap was chaotic as I almost got punted by the italian guy on the last corner but held it and finished a respectful 4th. He got 6th as the other guy snipped him to the finish lien as he ghosted. A whip of 34-35pts collected.

Overall a good race, but could have had better conduct/etiquette on track and some drivers using bump to pass is really annoying, but hey, people need to watch their braking distances withe SF cars!

Started 4th - & Finished 4th with a solid race.

Look forward to see how much rewards I repaed, but onto the Manus cup this time on the 12th March! LFG!

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First GT1 slot in the Americas (6 PM EST) in an all A/S lobby with 186 points up for grabs. I was in door #7. I needed to place P10 or better to improve my score.

Qualifying went fine. Posted a time of 1:38.645, which was only a couple tenths off of my best in Free Practice. That put me in Q11 to start.

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The start was exactly the mess you'd expect in this combo. A bunch of cars were off in Turn 1. I picked up a few positions as a result, but got punted into the sand on Degna 1 and fell back to P12 or P13.

The rest of the race was a hectic blur. I pitted from RM to RS on lap 13 and came out in P9. Overtook one other driver in the pits the next lap and drove out to a P8 finish for 131 points.

Good enough. One and done for me.
 
First GT1 slot in the Americas (6 PM EST) in an all A/S lobby with 186 points up for grabs. I was in door #7. I needed to place P10 or better to improve my score.

Qualifying went fine. Posted a time of 1:38.645, which was only a couple tenths off of my best in Free Practice. That put me in Q11 to start.

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The start was exactly the mess you'd expect in this combo. A bunch of cars were off in Turn 1. I picked up a few positions as a result, but got punted into the sand on Degna 1 and fell back to P12 or P13.

The rest of the race was a hectic blur. I pitted from RM to RS on lap 13 and came out in P9. Overtook one other driver in the pits the next lap and drove out to a P8 finish for 131 points.

Good enough. One and done for me.
We raced in the same GT1 slot today A/S (6 pm EST) - qualified P4 ~1:37. Finished P10? It wasn't lovely.
I'm the McLaren livery in your photo. Got rocked by an errant Hondo around lap 7? The collision didn't end my race, but I had lost my chance at the podium.
I did RS 8 - RM 12
Consistent lap times throughout and minimal tire wear until lap 8. Dumped it off T1 around lap 13 and ended up mowing the grass.
I had mentally checked out after that, seeing that I was -44 seconds off pace, I just wanted to finish.
Hondo respectfully let me retain my back-of-the-pack position while easily having the pace to overtake many times - I can appreciate the sportsmanship.

12oss
 
It seemed like a lot of drivers skipped this round. Maybe it was overkill by PD, having it as a time trial and a Daily A.
I did 2 slots and failed miserably in both. My best finish was 12th in slot 2. The custom slipstream has been a pain in the backside this season (literaliy)
I've lost count of the amount of times someone has gone into the back of me.
I only managed to score over 2 rounds, as Wednesdays became inaccessible due to adulting. So it's been my worst scoring season in quite a while.
I have more hope that the Manufacturers Cup will be a better outing. I've managed to secure some time on Wednesday, so I get to compete in round 1. Then I'll only need to make my self available for the other Saturday races.
Decided to go with Porsche, as I think it will provide the best all round performance for the 3 tracks I'll compete on.
 
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A pretty decent result for a pretty mediocre performance. Usually in Nations Cup seasons there will be at least one round where I'm competitive, but not this one. I was bouncing around the middle to back of the pack in every round this season. Oh well, I still managed a bronze across most of the regions, with a gold in my most-local one by virtue of being the only competitor.

In related news, this happened:
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Can't imagine I'll ever regret this decision. Nope. Bring on the wins.
 
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I'm already looking ahead to Tokyo as I couldn't much care less about a sprint Daily C that is Fuji for round one.

Unfortunately the Tokyo layout is not the one I thought it was; I thought it was the one with the wicked chicane. Regardless, it's a lot of WOT (wide-open-throttle) straights so I feel the Supra will be OP here. And I think Toyota will be a popular choice as short of Autopolis it'll be strong at the other three tracks. Deja-vu all over again. Thanks, Kaz. At least it's a new track to Sport Mode... so we have that going for us.

With 15 laps and RS tires strat will be pretty straight forward in pit on lap 7.5 (since the pits are ~half way thru the lap) for new tires and no fuel. If there was no required stop, a no-stopper would likely be the strat. Maybe it'll rain but I doubt it (is it even possible on this layout?). We shall see.



I've also done some three lap sessions at Nord. I can tell you tires, despite being RH, will be a problem. They won't need changed, but they will wear quite a bit. And, at least in the Acura NSX, fuel will need an eye as well.

For the five lapper, a pit will definitely be required to change tires and get fuel.

However, I am expecting rain so it may all be a moot point; unless it's random as some races may be completely dry as we saw last time.



IMO, Toyota and Lambo/Ferrari/maybe Alfa will be the most popular Manus depending on which tracks people want to try for their best results.
 
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Does anybody remember if it rained for the last race of official season last year? That was also Fuji/Gr.3/12 laps, so I assume it's the same weather settings.
It seemed like a lot of drivers skipped this round. Maybe it was overkill by PD, having it as a time trial and a Daily A.
While I don't think that helped, high downforce always kills participation somewhat + it was the first really nice weekend of the year. I'm not surprised.
 
BOP is another name for “Rigged Race”! Because world wide it’s not the same. Even in event qualifying on our own world wide I’ve noticed when I do everything right, braking and accelerating etc., I still only qualify 5 to 6 seconds back of the world average.
If you're 5-6s off the average, I'm afraid you're not doing everything right.

I'm rarely that far from the top, and I'm quite sure I'm not doing everything right.

Blaming BOP for it is... a mood.
 
I know I’m not perfect nobody is but BOP is not fair for everyone.
Anyone driving the same car as you has the same power and weight.
I’ve been in race qualifying with rain when I can see others didn’t have any rain!! RIGGED!!
Everyone in the same lobby as you has the exact same weather conditions as you at the same time as you. It doesn’t even come close to mattering what conditions other people in different lobbies have.
 
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Yes that’s the way it supposed to be but not what has been my experience. Also Ive been on time for event starts when the server never acknowledged me to let me in to race. I know I’m not the only one either. In the last Nations Cup races the Server blocked me out of 2 races plain and simple with no explanation or acknowledgment.
 
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Yes that’s the way it supposed to be but not what has been my experience.
That's the way it is.
Also Ive been on time for event starts when the server never acknowledged me to let me in to race. I know I’m not the only one either. In the last Nations Cup races the Server blocked me out of 2 races plain and simple with no explanation or acknowledgment.
Sounds like you have connection issues. Try this:

 
I know I’m not perfect nobody is but BOP is not fair for everyone. I’ve been in race qualifying with rain when I can see others didn’t have any rain!! RIGGED!!
60/40 this is a troll account, but... on races where it goes from wet to dry (like the recent Nations race at RBR) some people will park their car in the pits, go get dinner, and come back 30 mins later when the rain has stopped and the track is dry. They'll then put in their time, which of course, will be much faster than on the wet track.

Why people do this I don't know; bragging rights probably. I'd rather practice on the wet track but to each their own.
 
60/40 this is a troll account, but... on races where it goes from wet to dry (like the recent Nations race at RBR) some people will park their car in the pits, go get dinner, and come back 30 mins later when the rain has stopped and the track is dry. They'll then put in their time, which of course, will be much faster than on the wet track.

Why people do this I don't know; bragging rights probably. I'd rather practice on the wet track but to each their own.
Yeah but still that’s not fair to the innocent racer just booting up and going to see what’s in store to just qualify like on daily races and leave and face every time you come back it’s raining, the that’s RIGGED!!
 
Yeah but still that’s not fair to the innocent racer just booting up and going to see what’s in store to just qualify like on daily races and leave and face every time you come back it’s raining, the that’s RIGGED!!
In Championship events, that's irrelevant. Your practice time defines nothing; you qualify for your start position in the actual lobby with everyone else in the same conditions. What you do in practice is not carried through to anything.

Nothing is rigged.
 
The Rigging is not just me. It’s others too. Ask yourself when you have a GT-7 problem how do you “Contact Us” with PSN network and provide photo proof or video proof of it? Because you think I would get on here and not have proof? Or if I said go to my feed and see for yourself wouldn’t you believe I was just trying to get “Views?” It’s rigged and feel like some regions always win and some always loose. Look around at the championships and see if you always see the same, ALL THE TIME? Because they ALWAYS THAT GOOD HUH yeah right.
 
The Rigging is not just me. It’s others too. Ask yourself when you have a GT-7 problem how do you “Contact Us” with PSN network and provide photo proof or video proof of it? Because you think I would get on here and not have proof? Or if I said go to my feed and see for yourself wouldn’t you believe I was just trying to get “Views?” It’s rigged and feel like some regions always win and some always loose. Look around at the championships and see if you always see the same, ALL THE TIME? Because they ALWAYS THAT GOOD HUH yeah right.
Quite a lot to unpack there but just one question for now. Why would they rig the game to favour some regions over others?
 
Quite a lot to unpack there but just one question for now. Why would they rig the game to favour some regions over others?
Yeah that is a big ASK dude, WHY? You trust me I’ve been with PSN and PlayStation for a long time and have no problem moving on but PlayStation Plus is money out of my pocket and that’s me! I hate wasting money on a rigged system or setup. And I’m out if it continues through March 2025.
 
Manufacturers schedule is out:
  • 12 laps at Fuji, RH, x1 tyres
  • 15 laps at Tokyo South CCW, RS, x2 tyres
  • 16 laps at Autopolis, RH+RM (both required), x5 tyres
  • 5 laps at Nürburgring Endurance, RH, x6 tyres
Fun fact: This is I believe the first race we've had in Sport Mode at Tokyo South - in either direction - since the game came out.

Nice to see the new season of Manu announced. I can already foresee Fuji and Autopolis will be a struggle. I never do well at either of those tracks. Tokyo could be interesting. And I always enjoy driving Nord regardless of how well I do.

Since it is another short season, I'm thinking I'll try to get one of the lesser manufacturers that I haven't yet driven out of the way. Not entirely sure which, but my short list is:
  1. Audi
  2. Chevrolet
  3. Jaguar
  4. McLaren
  5. Mitsubishi
  6. Renault
As for tomorrow's race at Suzuka, I've been doing some tire wear tests. I wrote yesterday that I thought I had figured out how to drive the track faster in RS tires in Free Practice, but when I tried in a custom race with fuel consumption and tire wear enabled, the improvements were pretty small. Meanwhile, I'm burning through the tires way faster. Only able to get 10 laps out them, where before they were lasting 13.

Anyways, here are my latest results (details in this spreadsheet):
Tire CompoundLapsOpt timeBest timeAvg time
RM151:37.2741:39.9411:40.796
RS101:36.2371:39.7681:41.248


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Tire tread level at end of test:
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RM1545%50%60%65%
RS101%10%40%40%

Using these lap times to simulate different strategies (by fastest):
StrategyTotal time
7RS-13RM33:27.563
6RS-14RM33:28.011
8RS-12RM33:28.455
5RS-15RM33:28.589
9RS-11RM33:28.969
10RS-10RM33:29.923

It's looking like 7RS-13RM is my best option. That might change as I do more tests and smooth out the data. I'm not sure how much more testing I'll do, though, as I'd like to get more practice on the track against other drivers, in custom races and in Daily Race A.

Good luck to everybody racing!

I don't have any experience with man. cup. So this is maybe a noob question! please don't judge.

But I wonder since M6 Gr3 is a car to go in Gr3 races, at least last recent BOP Gr3 daily races, how do you chose your manufacturer? like why to even go with any other than BMW?

Is there a different kind of BOP in these races or what?
What car do members think will have the edge?

I know the M6 is the car GT uses for the Nordschleife but, I am not a fan of this car! I use VR and I just don't like the feeling of the car as I am too far back in the car,my go to car is usually the 911 or AMG GT, I have used Ferrari for these cups but I have been wondering about the Viper for a change, I am only in D rank 🙁 but am on the cusp of moving up, so ideally I don't want a car that will get destroyed via BOP so do more experienced members here know if the Viper is any good or not?

When I have driven the Viper GR3 I seem to be okay with it, but I expect Fuji to rain :odd: but the Nordschleife is going to be the big one and there will be rain there as well surely?

Quite a lot to unpack there but just one question for now. Why would they rig the game to favour some regions over others?
The only thing I will say on this topic is the issue of the Wednesday 18:00 last race time being a real issue for people in the UK and EU 🤬 as working people either don't get a chance to take part in the Wednesday races or if they are lucky they get a single chance in the last race!
 
What car do members think will have the edge?

I know the M6 is the car GT uses for the Nordschleife but, I am not a fan of this car! I use VR and I just don't like the feeling of the car as I am too far back in the car,my go to car is usually the 911 or AMG GT, I have used Ferrari for these cups but I have been wondering about the Viper for a change, I am only in D rank 🙁 but am on the cusp of moving up, so ideally I don't want a car that will get destroyed via BOP so do more experienced members here know if the Viper is any good or not?

When I have driven the Viper GR3 I seem to be okay with it, but I expect Fuji to rain :odd: but the Nordschleife is going to be the big one and there will be rain there as well surely?
Don’t over think it. At that level picking something you’re comfortable with will make more difference than the BoP. The 911 is your go-to for a reason.
 
What car do members think will have the edge?

I know the M6 is the car GT uses for the Nordschleife but, I am not a fan of this car! I use VR and I just don't like the feeling of the car as I am too far back in the car,my go to car is usually the 911 or AMG GT, I have used Ferrari for these cups but I have been wondering about the Viper for a change, I am only in D rank 🙁 but am on the cusp of moving up, so ideally I don't want a car that will get destroyed via BOP so do more experienced members here know if the Viper is any good or not?

When I have driven the Viper GR3 I seem to be okay with it, but I expect Fuji to rain :odd: but the Nordschleife is going to be the big one and there will be rain there as well surely?
The only advice I would really give is this: Fuji has a giant straight, the Nordschleife has a giant straight, Tokyo South is all big straights and big stops. I would advise against using a downforce/handling car like the BRZ or the RS01 unless your plan is to zig where others are zagging in order to maximise your Autopolis result.
 
The Rigging is not just me. It’s others too.
Okay, but nothing you have said so far is anywhere close. You just seem very confused about what's actually happening and are blaming your own shortcomings on some bizarre system rigged against you for... some reason.
Because you think I would get on here and not have proof?
Crack on then. You can upload your proof and post it right here. If it's videos - and as your PlayStation console records everything it sees all the time, it should be - then upload them to any video sharing service and post it right here.
It’s rigged and feel like some regions always win and some always loose. Look around at the championships and see if you always see the same, ALL THE TIME? Because they ALWAYS THAT GOOD HUH yeah right.
I've no idea what you're talking about with "some regions always win and some always loose" (sic), as for the most part regional considerations are irrelevant (and extremely irrelevant in Nations Cup). Could you elaborate on this?

Also you'll find conversation easier if you use the "Quote" feature, as it notifies the person to whom you are responding.
 
What car do members think will have the edge?

I know the M6 is the car GT uses for the Nordschleife but, I am not a fan of this car! I use VR and I just don't like the feeling of the car as I am too far back in the car,my go to car is usually the 911 or AMG GT, I have used Ferrari for these cups but I have been wondering about the Viper for a change, I am only in D rank 🙁 but am on the cusp of moving up, so ideally I don't want a car that will get destroyed via BOP so do more experienced members here know if the Viper is any good or not?

When I have driven the Viper GR3 I seem to be okay with it, but I expect Fuji to rain :odd: but the Nordschleife is going to be the big one and there will be rain there as well surely?


The only thing I will say on this topic is the issue of the Wednesday 18:00 last race time being a real issue for people in the UK and EU 🤬 as working people either don't get a chance to take part in the Wednesday races or if they are lucky they get a single chance in the last race!
You know you can change your seating position in VR.. you can use the headset button that’s turns it to grey screen, or you can hit the start button on the controller. Before hitting these buttons move your head forward to sit back or move it back to sit closer. Same for height move your head up to sit lower, or move it down/lower your body to sit higher.
 
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