Gran Turismo World Series (Manufacturers Cup Exhibition Season: Feb 5 - Feb 15)
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- Andover, Hampshire
- ElectricNaz
I'm a relative noob to this, but would the time diff not be down to fuel load? A second and a half seems about right on such a long track with lots of low speed corners / acceleration zones? (I'm basing that on my experience on other tracks)
Free practice is qualifying sim basically, isn't it?
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- 1,076
- Nissa
- Sianimo
The fuel load is supposed to be full in the "training" (the free practice you have access to days before the event).
I guess the fact it's not evolutive (and no tyre wear) causes some differences
- 369
- Andover, Hampshire
- ElectricNaz
- 1,076
- Nissa
- Sianimo
Keep in mind I'm not sure about what I say, I'm far from being an expert too, tonight will be my 4th GTWS race (+1 daily 2 years ago!
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- 672
- Canada
- moosethemooche78
From what I've heard from people who have more knowledge about this than me, in Free Practice, even though the fuel gauge shows as full, the car doesn't actually carry any weight for fuel. It is only when the fuel consumption is turned on that the car gets the weight from the fuel. I've never tested it myself, but it's consistent with my experience. I'm always faster in free practice than I am in the custom races where I have a fuel multiplier set.
- 140
- Spain
- Globato44
- Globato44
Damn, I had completely forgotten about the invisible wall in Daytona's first turn.
I was thinking about lifting to avoid the chaos, I don't think "I'm the chosen one", but it looked like I could just pass on the inside...
I remember in Daytona people usuallly pit when they have a penalty because it's the way to not carry the lack of speed for all the straight, so I went for the pit although it was too early. I said yesterday I'd change tyres, but I thought my race was already lost, so why don't give it a try to the no-change strategy?
Then my race was just a time trial passing drivers during their stops.
Somehow, everyone rejoined the track behind me. I had absolutely nothing to do against the Supra, but I think I could have kept P2 from the 911, maybe with fresh tyres. They hadn't changed their tyres; I'm just too slow at the bus stop.
So P3 in a race I had no faith in, and after an early crash. Not bad.
I was thinking about lifting to avoid the chaos, I don't think "I'm the chosen one", but it looked like I could just pass on the inside...
I remember in Daytona people usuallly pit when they have a penalty because it's the way to not carry the lack of speed for all the straight, so I went for the pit although it was too early. I said yesterday I'd change tyres, but I thought my race was already lost, so why don't give it a try to the no-change strategy?
Then my race was just a time trial passing drivers during their stops.
Somehow, everyone rejoined the track behind me. I had absolutely nothing to do against the Supra, but I think I could have kept P2 from the 911, maybe with fresh tyres. They hadn't changed their tyres; I'm just too slow at the bus stop.
So P3 in a race I had no faith in, and after an early crash. Not bad.
- 369
- Andover, Hampshire
- ElectricNaz
GT2, Round 5 - Daytona. Door 14 in a pure A lobby. Let's gooooo
Qualifying was a bit annoying. Gave myself space, but car in front got a penalty at the end of the first flying lap which distracted me, and then he held me up a little in the first sector of the 2nd flyer. He did purposely move out of the way so I'll just say it was probably "nowhere for him to go". Qualified 5th, prob should have been 3rd but I'll take that!
Some very familiar and high quality names in the lobby, including the EMEA number 1. In the race we had ranks 1, 2, 4, 9, 13,14, 23, a joint 31 and me (31).
Race started well for me. Starting 5th, I was totally focused on mailing the first corner whilst avoiding carnage. Got it pretty much spot on....
Safely through in 5th but had an EXCELLENT run and was up into 3rd before the hairpin, where carnage happened just behind me...
I took advantage from then on to drive my own race. Held my own in 3rd for a while, before the EMEA number one at GT2 level (Salad Fingers) was all over me, I didn't fight that too much.
Was down in 4th, losing ground to the top 3 but well clear of those behind. Never sure who had pitted etc so couldn't rest up. Drove a really clean sensible race with decent enough laptimes.
At the pits (end of lap 12) it was a splash and dash, didn't need new tyres. Came out right behind 3rd who must have taken new tyres, but with the extra grip he was able to pull away. Comfortable 4th placed finish for me! Happy with that being door 14 and behind a load of others in the rankings.
But what? No clean race bonus? Only thing I can imagine is that when SaladFingers was bump drafting me (fine by me because it was clean and fair) it counted against me having a clean race? I certainly made no mistakes and never ran wide / got any time penalties.
Oh well, 4th place, new points record for me (157 points). Leaves me on 457 from my best 3 rounds, or 587 if its the best 4 (can never remember).
I'm missing the last round as we're going away for the long weekend so that's my season done with. It's been a great one!
Good luck to all today, and for Sunday, have a great race today!
Qualifying was a bit annoying. Gave myself space, but car in front got a penalty at the end of the first flying lap which distracted me, and then he held me up a little in the first sector of the 2nd flyer. He did purposely move out of the way so I'll just say it was probably "nowhere for him to go". Qualified 5th, prob should have been 3rd but I'll take that!
Some very familiar and high quality names in the lobby, including the EMEA number 1. In the race we had ranks 1, 2, 4, 9, 13,14, 23, a joint 31 and me (31).
Race started well for me. Starting 5th, I was totally focused on mailing the first corner whilst avoiding carnage. Got it pretty much spot on....
Safely through in 5th but had an EXCELLENT run and was up into 3rd before the hairpin, where carnage happened just behind me...
I took advantage from then on to drive my own race. Held my own in 3rd for a while, before the EMEA number one at GT2 level (Salad Fingers) was all over me, I didn't fight that too much.
Was down in 4th, losing ground to the top 3 but well clear of those behind. Never sure who had pitted etc so couldn't rest up. Drove a really clean sensible race with decent enough laptimes.
At the pits (end of lap 12) it was a splash and dash, didn't need new tyres. Came out right behind 3rd who must have taken new tyres, but with the extra grip he was able to pull away. Comfortable 4th placed finish for me! Happy with that being door 14 and behind a load of others in the rankings.
But what? No clean race bonus? Only thing I can imagine is that when SaladFingers was bump drafting me (fine by me because it was clean and fair) it counted against me having a clean race? I certainly made no mistakes and never ran wide / got any time penalties.
Oh well, 4th place, new points record for me (157 points). Leaves me on 457 from my best 3 rounds, or 587 if its the best 4 (can never remember).
I'm missing the last round as we're going away for the long weekend so that's my season done with. It's been a great one!
Good luck to all today, and for Sunday, have a great race today!
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- United Kingdom
GT2 B - went only once , one and done
Qualified P2 with 1:46.904 - only missed P1 just .200
Race started good , in lap 2 almost plebbed the whole race because i ran little off with one wheel but thankfully managed to recover , then not much happened , after 10 lap went to pits decided not change tyres and only fuel up , with that strat i managed to jump the leader by 3 seconds ahead then i managed bring it home
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Have fun and good luck out there
Qualified P2 with 1:46.904 - only missed P1 just .200
Race started good , in lap 2 almost plebbed the whole race because i ran little off with one wheel but thankfully managed to recover , then not much happened , after 10 lap went to pits decided not change tyres and only fuel up , with that strat i managed to jump the leader by 3 seconds ahead then i managed bring it home
❤️C7 💪
Have fun and good luck out there
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- 1,724
- Australia
First slot in GT1 Asia. In the 4C. What a great race!
Couldn’t find a groove in qualy and started p9.
Everyone was very well behaved through turn 1 and a nice orderly train emerged by the time we hit the oval.
Someone dropped a wheel in the grass and spun at the bus stop and then another served a 2 second?!? Penalty.
P7 at the start of lap 2.
More running in formation for several more laps as the front 2 gapped 3rd and then we built a big gap to p8.
Pitted lap 10 with the GT and the 911 directly in front of me. After the full cycle of stops I was in p6 with 2 GTS and a Porsche in front of me in the same slip train.
Lap 14 and one of the GTs got a penalty at the bus stop. He sank back by a bit over a second. I started to believe a podium might be possible. But 2 laps later it was my turn to miss the final apex by a pixel and take a pen.
For the last few laps the GT towed me along and on the final lap I got a great exit from the bus stop and with the slip managed to catch the GT, but those things are so fast that once I moved out of the draft I couldn’t get past. So p6 and 199 points.
Such a well driven race by everyone that missing p5 by .06s didn’t even faze me. Just great fun all round.
Good luck to all who enter. May all your races be as good as mine.
Couldn’t find a groove in qualy and started p9.
Everyone was very well behaved through turn 1 and a nice orderly train emerged by the time we hit the oval.
Someone dropped a wheel in the grass and spun at the bus stop and then another served a 2 second?!? Penalty.
P7 at the start of lap 2.
More running in formation for several more laps as the front 2 gapped 3rd and then we built a big gap to p8.
Pitted lap 10 with the GT and the 911 directly in front of me. After the full cycle of stops I was in p6 with 2 GTS and a Porsche in front of me in the same slip train.
Lap 14 and one of the GTs got a penalty at the bus stop. He sank back by a bit over a second. I started to believe a podium might be possible. But 2 laps later it was my turn to miss the final apex by a pixel and take a pen.
For the last few laps the GT towed me along and on the final lap I got a great exit from the bus stop and with the slip managed to catch the GT, but those things are so fast that once I moved out of the draft I couldn’t get past. So p6 and 199 points.
Such a well driven race by everyone that missing p5 by .06s didn’t even faze me. Just great fun all round.
Good luck to all who enter. May all your races be as good as mine.
- 1,833
- Nurburgring, Germany
Well morning session was abysmal! TO say the least.
1st race at 11am, was terrible, so much chaos bumper cars all round and didnt get good pace finished 13th or something.
2nd race - Even worse. Let me paint a picture, Qualifyied 4th on the grid, ok cool, set off good first lap little argy bargy
on that lap, then enter 1st corner following a German racer, I unintetionially bump him leading into turn 2, and then as we are exiting, he starts pushing me closer to the grass, then blatantly pushes me off, me losing traction, and pits me into the grass area, causing a spinout. I was really annoyed when he did that and tried to recover the race all till the end, even pitting early, I finished 10th overall from 16th lol, best I could.
Then the guy in post race chat states he did nothing wrong, acts oblivious, what a joke, so he gets no penalty, no repromand, and goes onto the win the race, such dirty driving and he knows it. It's not good that drivers are jammy and push to pass, but this bites the biscuit, lowest today. It's really upsetting but I tried my best to suck it up and carry on.
Will try and do one more race to claw back some good points for a terrible Round 5, but we shall see.
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1st race at 11am, was terrible, so much chaos bumper cars all round and didnt get good pace finished 13th or something.
2nd race - Even worse. Let me paint a picture, Qualifyied 4th on the grid, ok cool, set off good first lap little argy bargy
on that lap, then enter 1st corner following a German racer, I unintetionially bump him leading into turn 2, and then as we are exiting, he starts pushing me closer to the grass, then blatantly pushes me off, me losing traction, and pits me into the grass area, causing a spinout. I was really annoyed when he did that and tried to recover the race all till the end, even pitting early, I finished 10th overall from 16th lol, best I could.
Then the guy in post race chat states he did nothing wrong, acts oblivious, what a joke, so he gets no penalty, no repromand, and goes onto the win the race, such dirty driving and he knows it. It's not good that drivers are jammy and push to pass, but this bites the biscuit, lowest today. It's really upsetting but I tried my best to suck it up and carry on.
Will try and do one more race to claw back some good points for a terrible Round 5, but we shall see.
CLIP OF DIRTY DRIVER:
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- 363
- London
- MetalApeRacer
I just found out where to get a 2 second penalty, luckily in a practice session. Exiting the infield onto the banking, I gave it a liitle too much welly, slid the back out a bit so I was pointing at a short cut route to the banking. So just went straight across the shortcut onto the banking and voila, 2 second penalty.
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- United States
If you drive a Ferrari, you better be changing your tires! Go straight to Plan G and stop inventing!
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- Glasgow
- stpatty
First race I qualified 14th and was backwards with full damage after the chicane on lap 1. Finished 14th but who cares. Highlight was a guy in a McLaren getting called out by four people in the post-race chat which I think is a record for me. Looking at the replay, could have been more.
Second race I qualified 15th and made it to 10th by the end of lap 1 by not dying. A massive group made up the lead before a Ukrainian in an AMG took out three guys into turn 1. I made my way past a Suzuki (yes) on lap 4 to get up to 5th and followed the pack here with no problems until lap 8, where the leader (by about 11 seconds) bottled it into turn 1. I let the group in front of me pit gradually before I went in from the lead at the end of lap 13.
I had no pace... anywhere, and ended up 5th by doing very little.
It's very obvious this car shouldn't be in Gr.3, but as ever it's fun being in a GT-R that leaves people for dead on the straights.
Second race I qualified 15th and made it to 10th by the end of lap 1 by not dying. A massive group made up the lead before a Ukrainian in an AMG took out three guys into turn 1. I made my way past a Suzuki (yes) on lap 4 to get up to 5th and followed the pack here with no problems until lap 8, where the leader (by about 11 seconds) bottled it into turn 1. I let the group in front of me pit gradually before I went in from the lead at the end of lap 13.
I had no pace... anywhere, and ended up 5th by doing very little.
It's very obvious this car shouldn't be in Gr.3, but as ever it's fun being in a GT-R that leaves people for dead on the straights.
- 672
- Canada
- moosethemooche78
That's no small feat. Those Suzukis aren't great at a lot of things -- or at least I can't figure out how to get them to be -- but going fast in a straight line is one of the things they really excel at. The older GT500 cars, like that GT-R, tend to have higher top-end speed so I'd expect it to do well against most other cars, but I'm still surprised it could beat the Suzuki. Congrats on the top-5 finish!
- 3,806
- United Kingdom
@Dep Fishtail cough your could have mentioned the short shift to 3rd thing in the F1 cough 🤣
I suddenly realised accidentally double shifting out of T1 on my 10th lap 🤣 needless to say I have improved more now!
I suddenly realised accidentally double shifting out of T1 on my 10th lap 🤣 needless to say I have improved more now!
- 367
- Netherlands
I never have an opportunity to confront someone about their driving.Well morning session was abysmal! TO say the least.
2nd race - Even worse. Let me paint a picture, Qualifyied 4th on the grid, ok cool, set off good first lap little argy bargy
on that lap, then enter 1st corner following a German racer, I unintetionially bump him leading into turn 2, and then as we are exiting, he starts pushing me closer to the grass, then blatantly pushes me off, me losing traction, and pits me into the grass area, causing a spinout. I was really annoyed when he did that and tried to recover the race all till the end, even pitting early, I finished 10th overall from 16th lol, best I could.
Then the guy in post race chat states he did nothing wrong, acts oblivious, what a joke, so he gets no penalty, no repromand, and goes onto the win the race, such dirty driving and he knows it. It's not good that drivers are jammy and push to pass, but this bites the biscuit, lowest today. It's really upsetting but I tried my best to suck it up and carry on.
Will try and do one more race to claw back some good points for a terrible Round 5, but we shall see.
You must have been really pissed off after that? Did you follow your own advice and watch the replay? I don't suppose you saw anything wrong about spinning a green-purple Honda and not caring.
And I stopped counting after the 3rd one you "punished".
Was that German guy not nice too you? Certainly, but he retailiated against you, from what I could tell.
Takes one to know one.
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- United Kingdom
I'm watching some races this evening, and this race is driving home my personal biggest dislike about GT7's physics, which is that no matter what car you're using, bump-drafting works and has no downsides to doing so. It just doesn't look "right" for lack of a better word, it's immersion-breaking.
- 3,806
- United Kingdom
God I wish I'd have WFH today to do the early races. Less points for sure but that's ok.
Start p14 but was door number 2, up to p5 before the bus stop, natural attrition but then oh my god the thirst from the cars behind was crazy.
This is a 40 min race peeps be cool be cool.
They weren't and now I have to go again. Joy.
Start p14 but was door number 2, up to p5 before the bus stop, natural attrition but then oh my god the thirst from the cars behind was crazy.
This is a 40 min race peeps be cool be cool.
They weren't and now I have to go again. Joy.
- 497
- United States
This is actually why I am not doing Daytona today. I'm not WFH (Work from home if no one knows what the acronym means). I'm in GT1 so by the time I get home I'll miss the first race, and I have to go back in tomorrow so not only will I miss the 3rd slot at 11PM. I have to start winding down and get ready for work around 9 PM, which is the 2nd slot lol.
I'm just going to do Fuji to just "get some points" for my 3rd counted race and call it what it is.
- 434
- London
Honestly what is the point??? Spend all week practicing for the race I was excited about and someone decides to end it after 1 minute. What’s wrong with people?? Waste of time. Done with this game.
- 1,322
- United Kingdom
- rodgers1
I am so done with GTWS and GT7.
GT1 league has shown the ugly side of GT7 for me, and people just simply do not care!
1st slot uk, 158 points, car number 14
Qualifying I got myself into P5, could have gone faster but got stuck behind a slow car. They tried to make a gap at the bus stop chicane when your gap needs to be sorted before that,
Race….well joke! The 4 car ahead set the tone really. They door banging through T1, T2, & T3. Then at T4 I get rear ended and damage to rear bumper and get shunted into the car ahead. Now have front and rear. Then on the banked curve, a Spanish driver behind pit manoeuvred me! That’s me out of the race! Front & rear bumper damage and wheel damage too. This Spanish driver had nothing to say for themselves after the race. They were obviously happy with there P4 result!
I carried on finished P13.
I’m honestly fuming right. GT1 league is just a disaster with heavy damage and especially when people don’t even drive to the conditions of the track. I might go again at the 8pm slot as I know I have the pace round here, but I think that me done and dusted with GT7 (online at least). Game has very stale, daily races are just boring, no new tracks, no new single player missions etc… PDs lack of reporting system has to be top of the list of reason why I don’t play this game, and the big one, PD have no interest in updating the race cars, but they will give me 20 different Subura Imprezas, because we all want to collect those and drive them!
My live stream for anyone interested, incident happens on lap 1 and I have the replay in chase cam at the end of the stream so you can see the incident.
P.S if anyone knows how to report these players for dirty driving I’d love to know! Seems like the top 2/3 splits has stewarding but the rest of us has to make do! Also I’ve been told to contact a driver about reporting drivers but I don’t actually even know if that works….?
GT1 league has shown the ugly side of GT7 for me, and people just simply do not care!
1st slot uk, 158 points, car number 14
Qualifying I got myself into P5, could have gone faster but got stuck behind a slow car. They tried to make a gap at the bus stop chicane when your gap needs to be sorted before that,
Race….well joke! The 4 car ahead set the tone really. They door banging through T1, T2, & T3. Then at T4 I get rear ended and damage to rear bumper and get shunted into the car ahead. Now have front and rear. Then on the banked curve, a Spanish driver behind pit manoeuvred me! That’s me out of the race! Front & rear bumper damage and wheel damage too. This Spanish driver had nothing to say for themselves after the race. They were obviously happy with there P4 result!
I carried on finished P13.
I’m honestly fuming right. GT1 league is just a disaster with heavy damage and especially when people don’t even drive to the conditions of the track. I might go again at the 8pm slot as I know I have the pace round here, but I think that me done and dusted with GT7 (online at least). Game has very stale, daily races are just boring, no new tracks, no new single player missions etc… PDs lack of reporting system has to be top of the list of reason why I don’t play this game, and the big one, PD have no interest in updating the race cars, but they will give me 20 different Subura Imprezas, because we all want to collect those and drive them!
My live stream for anyone interested, incident happens on lap 1 and I have the replay in chase cam at the end of the stream so you can see the incident.
P.S if anyone knows how to report these players for dirty driving I’d love to know! Seems like the top 2/3 splits has stewarding but the rest of us has to make do! Also I’ve been told to contact a driver about reporting drivers but I don’t actually even know if that works….?
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- Germany
- Interemptor-1313
- Interemptor
GT2, low B/S, 87pts for the win, door 10
Quali was ok and very close, only managed 1 valid lap.
Race started bad as always in the last couple of races. Got punted from a Porsche out of the infield and pushed into 2 cars infront. From P6 to P10 and because of the damage to the front and rear I could not get over 230km/h on the straight.
Back to P12 after 1 lap and that's were I met a spaniard in a Lambo. This guy was the absolute worst kind of driver you can meet in a race. Over a couple of laps i passed him and he retook the place with pushing and shoving. After watching the replay I saw that I was not the only one who got hit from him.
Pitted early to get some clean air and after all had pitted I was back in P6. Behind the spaniard -_-
In the last lap after the bus stop i was closing with sliptream, I was on the outside but the drove right so I got to the inside and of course he did what I thought he would do.
I'm so sick of this kind of crap. In the whole race he did not get one penalty for this behavior. What a joke.
Finished with 69pts but should have been more.
Quali was ok and very close, only managed 1 valid lap.
Race started bad as always in the last couple of races. Got punted from a Porsche out of the infield and pushed into 2 cars infront. From P6 to P10 and because of the damage to the front and rear I could not get over 230km/h on the straight.
Back to P12 after 1 lap and that's were I met a spaniard in a Lambo. This guy was the absolute worst kind of driver you can meet in a race. Over a couple of laps i passed him and he retook the place with pushing and shoving. After watching the replay I saw that I was not the only one who got hit from him.
Pitted early to get some clean air and after all had pitted I was back in P6. Behind the spaniard -_-
In the last lap after the bus stop i was closing with sliptream, I was on the outside but the drove right so I got to the inside and of course he did what I thought he would do.
I'm so sick of this kind of crap. In the whole race he did not get one penalty for this behavior. What a joke.
Finished with 69pts but should have been more.
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- 87,613
- Rule 12
- GTP_Famine
- 1,322
- United Kingdom
- rodgers1
This wasn’t an option unfortunately. You can chose every other option to report some but not for racing.
I don’t even want to be contacting him myself, as I don’t feel like it’s his job (unless that is his job?) as PD should have a system in place. I’ll remove his name from original post
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