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And I'm glad for it. It's a video game. I want to see some scenery while driving. They hide all the beauty of Saint-Croix behind mile high Armco..I'm glad they rethought that strategy.
Grand Valley Returns to Gran Turismo 7
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And I'm glad for it. It's a video game. I want to see some scenery while driving. They hide all the beauty of Saint-Croix behind mile high Armco..I'm glad they rethought that strategy.
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If this was Ridge Racer or Need for Speed, the lack of "simulation" or real world design doesn't really fit
Not every race takes place on a Formula 1 style race track. Isle of Man, Pike's Peak, nearly every rally, etc. GT should and does have a variety of settings. Real world design is vastly wider than you're giving it credit for.
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Parts of west Marin look quite a bit like Scotland - they even named a town out there near Pt Reyes "Inverness". Maybe not highlands, but definitely parts of Scotland. It's usually overcast and foggy out there too.
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Trial Mountain has a monkey
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And Nessie, yes?Trial Mountain has a monkey
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Not 100% sure on that. I think it’s in the lake at T13 but I’ve never managed to spot her
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The reimagining of Grand Valley makes me miss the real city tracks, especially Citti di Aria, in Assisi Italy
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Loved that circuit. And Seattle.
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I was checking the roads of Yosemite through Google Earth, more precisely the region of El Capitan. It is incredible that this work of clipping iconic Big Sur locations and coupling the Grand Valley into one unit was fully realized by PD in the days of Gran Turismo 4 with the El Capitan region. Basically, it's all there. the Hairpin, the shallow bridge, the short tunnel.
That's fantastic from PD!
I wonder what they could do with Rio de Janeiro, Bariloche, Lauterbrunnen and other iconic world landmarks with their makeshift road circuit race tracks.
PS. Interestingly, I found no reference to Trial Mountain in the Yosemite region.
That's fantastic from PD!
I wonder what they could do with Rio de Janeiro, Bariloche, Lauterbrunnen and other iconic world landmarks with their makeshift road circuit race tracks.
PS. Interestingly, I found no reference to Trial Mountain in the Yosemite region.
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They could have made Grand Valley Speedway feel geographically authentic by placing it somewhere else in California or possibly Oregon. Did they really have to turn it into a coastal highway? No, that was a creative decision.
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I also didn't like the option to put it Grand Valley in Big Sur. I think it mischaracterized the circuit a lot. If the idea was to place Grand Valley Speedway in a real location, the Sidu River Bridge in China could be the place. Hubei's rugged and forested region closely resembles the original GVS. By the way, one end of the bridge ends in a tunnel.
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That does look cool though.
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I would not really care if the original 5km layout got remodeled like Trial Mountain or Deep Forest
But the new ones have few things like the original one.
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What's the Californian equivalent of the Alps? The French Riviera? The Tuscan hills? Not to mention Scandinavia.
You are talking complete rubbish.
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An unpopular opinion for sure, but how do we know this isn't how they originally wanted it to be but made differently for one reason or another? Things were very different 25 years ago, the PS1 didn't have that much power to be spared for track surroundings, and some original tracks are obvious stand-ins for real ones.
It's probably well accepted by now that Apricot Hill always was a rearranged Suzuka, since they for some reason couldn't use the real track. Now as Suzuka is in the game, Apricot Hill has finally disappeared (I'd like it back though) and the surroundings already changed a lot in its later versions. Deep Forest in its original version is very Nürburgring-esque, and in every game that has had the real Nordschleife it has been further removed from the narrow path through the forest. And I've said it before but will say for as long as necessary, the original GVS was very much a rearranged Watkins Glen - a long straight into a mid speed right hander, the uphill esses, the downhill section leading to a long slow right hander, and the rest largely comprised of 90-ish degree corners. Even the bridge is light blue, like the characteristic guardrails of the Glen. Now as the real track is in the game they could ditch the connection and give Grand Valley its own style, which leads me back to the beginning.
Many of the details on the current Highway version match the real road very closely - the bridge and tunnel locations, and the roads leading to and from them. Most of them are still in the same places as in the original, so without knowing better I'd say it's a real possibility that they originally planned the track from the Californian highway map but then crafted a more traditional race track landscape for it as what we have now might have been considered being too close to the Need For Speeds and Ridge Racers of the time.
It's probably well accepted by now that Apricot Hill always was a rearranged Suzuka, since they for some reason couldn't use the real track. Now as Suzuka is in the game, Apricot Hill has finally disappeared (I'd like it back though) and the surroundings already changed a lot in its later versions. Deep Forest in its original version is very Nürburgring-esque, and in every game that has had the real Nordschleife it has been further removed from the narrow path through the forest. And I've said it before but will say for as long as necessary, the original GVS was very much a rearranged Watkins Glen - a long straight into a mid speed right hander, the uphill esses, the downhill section leading to a long slow right hander, and the rest largely comprised of 90-ish degree corners. Even the bridge is light blue, like the characteristic guardrails of the Glen. Now as the real track is in the game they could ditch the connection and give Grand Valley its own style, which leads me back to the beginning.
Many of the details on the current Highway version match the real road very closely - the bridge and tunnel locations, and the roads leading to and from them. Most of them are still in the same places as in the original, so without knowing better I'd say it's a real possibility that they originally planned the track from the Californian highway map but then crafted a more traditional race track landscape for it as what we have now might have been considered being too close to the Need For Speeds and Ridge Racers of the time.
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You named a few places that are famous for having pretty close analogues in California. They aren't the same, but I'm pretty sure the pictures could fool a lot of people.
Alps - Trinity Alps:
French Riviera (Sausalito, Tiburon, Malibu, Etc)
Tuscany - Pretty much every valley in Norcal and some in the Central Coast, here's Sonoma:
Scandinavian geographies are not well covered, that's true.
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We need some Scandinavia ice rallies
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This looks pretty much like home:
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