Gripes

[AltF8]

Just to reply to Monk's extremely well-written post (not the other garbage in this thread):

If you pay very careful attention to the 2-D cardboard figures on the side of the road, some of them do move.  It's subtle, and there are a few seconds between animations, but they do indeed move here and there.

 

[fakeplasticbends]

Well, car damage would be cool, but I think it would make the game more UNrealistic. Think about it - you are driving your F-1 car about 200 miles per hour and hit a wall just one time. You car would be totaled! The driver may not have even survived, in a real-life situation. Then, presumably you would have to pay money to get the car fixed - if every time you hit a wall your car gets totaled (as would be realistic at typical speeds in even the amateur cups) that could get expensive REAL fast.

What happens if you just started the game and have only one car, and you wreck it to where it is undrivable, and you don't have any money to fix it? What do you do then? You can't just make people start the game over.

I think that besides issues with manufacturers, this is the main reason damage wasn't included in the game.

 

[fakeplasticbends]

As for PDog...I'm not even sure what point he was trying to make by saying I masturbate on the road.  Speaking from experience about the whole thing, I imagine. Trying to keep me from making the same mistake he made?

Chaosmonk, I love how you chastise these people for their junior-high school insults, but then you come back with the exact same thing.



(Edited by fakeplasticbends at 8:39 am on July 20, 2001)

 

[cantdrive55]

The only gripe I have, well I could go on a rampage but I won't is, I just can't understand why you win the car that you had to buy to do the races, and way too many Miatas I know you can sell them but it's kinda discouraging.....THE GAME IS AWSOME DON'T GET ME WRONG(had to throw that in there before some of these people that think you can't have one dislike about the game GO NUTZ....HEY YOUR IN WAYYYY TOO DEEP!!!!LIFE GOES ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Pako]

Making a turn at 500+ MPH and hitting a wall head-on would do a little more than just a bump.  I could really get into some seriously hazardous crashes.  The kind where body, car, and track parts go flying........

Now that would be cool...

 

[Lemans]

Several things...

1. Hitting a wall just once? Why? Cant you drive withpout hitting anything? And if you did wouldnt you deserve to be out of the race? Wouldnt you start paying more attention to your technique and your lines instead of thinking oh, well, i'll just bounce off this wall here. Wouldnt you feel better knowing you finished the race without a scratch? And wouldnt it be a sight to see your primary competitor kiss the wall and go out of the race leaving you in the lead in the points?

2. Car manufacturers did not want car damage not because they did not want the people to see how fragile the cars were, but because they did not want them to see how fragile the cars were compared to the other manufacturers cars. Everyone knows a car will go to crap after a collision at 200mph, question is, which car will end up in a better condition. Plus you'd have these issues of why does car car repair bill double the other guys car, etc...

3. Backup lights? Minor detail which i dont care about. Whats much more cooler is how they made the HID lights stand out compared to normal lights - look at the RUF GRT and the Honda Accord side by side. Tinted windows that you can see through, sparks from bottoming out, detailed tire thread, heating brake-pads, wind noise at high speed, etc. - thats cool. Backup lights? - who cares, and who is backing up?

Opposite View:

Ever play a PC Game called Sports Car GT? They had the Nice BMWs, etc. ? That game had car damage - not parts flying off, but internal suspension, engine, aerodynamics damage that would affect your car. You could go as far as breaking a control arm or a bearing which would make your car severely pull to the side, etc. Why not incorporate that into Gran Tourismo? Not changing the oil? Trouble! Slammed a wall - the weel is bent slightly and the camber/toe is off - pulling to the side, Slammed it again? engine trouble - loss of power. Downshifted and skipped a gear - there goes your engine/transmission, etc...

Anyway, thats what i think. Please feel free to criticise

(Edited by Lemans at 1:47 pm on July 24, 2001)

 

[AltF8]

I like the idea of internal damages. Personally, I'd like the ability to over-rev an engine or strip out a gear-box. It would make the whole thing more realistic.  Or, perhaps the ability to turn these options on and off?

 

[Lemans]

Yes, and the manufacturers will not complain either - no outside bodywork damage!

 

[Pako]

Yes, internal damage would be a nice touch, as an option.

How about the physics that would cause a car to flip or roll?  Has anyone seen this happen yet?

I LOVE THIS GAME!!!

 

[Burns]

Ok, this is my first post here, so hello ppl. I live in the uk and I bought my copy of GT3 on the 23rd of July, to tell u the truth I think its a rather good game and it is by far the most realistic game out apart from the damage but remember MSR on the Dreamcast, that ever had car damage either and the graphics on that kicked the ass off of GT2, ppl cant deny that the Dreamcast was a good console and MSR is the only game i know to actually rival GT3. I found the game easier to get into than the previous 2 and I also wondered why they took out the used cars?
Ok im goin to put on my Dreamcast and my PS2 and play both cuz they both kick ass.
The reverse lights dont make that much difference and just remember that games are going to get better and better and more realistic, example Project Gotham on the Xbox (although it is a complete copy of MSR and Microsoft are saying its there own creation because that has car damage in it, I hate Microsoft )
Oh and im just wondering over here in the uk, if the shop ran out of PS2's they could only order more if they agreed to sell it with a copy of GT3?? so the price slash (more like graze from £299 to £269) is a waste of time because now ppl are going to be paying £329? as if the PS2 isnt too expensive now?
Im sure the PS2 is goin to start what they finished on the PSX now ;-) trust me.

 

 

[ChaosMonk]

You guys are paying £329 for a PS2/GT3 bundle? Daaaamn.  We pay $329 for the same bundle, which only comes out to about £232.  Sheesh.  For the uninitiated out there, £329 is equal to about $468.

 

[Jordan]

Quote: from ChaosMonk on 7:31 pm on July 24, 2001[br]You guys are paying £329 for a PS2/GT3 bundle? Daaaamn.  We pay $329 for the same bundle, which only comes out to about £232.  Sheesh.  For the uninitiated out there, £329 is equal to about $468.

Whoa...that is a lot.  You could probably import one cheaper than that!

 

[gearbrain]

Yeah, and to think i griped about my price.

 

[Jordan]

Quote: from gearbrain on 9:32 pm on July 24, 2001[br]Yeah, and to think i griped about my price.

Me too, I feel more lucky that I have my hands on a copy of the game.  Had I not ordered it from Amazon, I would still be waiting!

 

[MustangR Fan]

Ok the only thing that me and my buds are griping about in this game is the lack of racing mods.....I mean that is what made alot of the cars cooler.....I bought that big ass bus from GT2 just to see the racing mods....GT guys if you read this PUT IT IN GT4......thanks

 

[Jordan]

I bought that big ass bus from GT2 just to see the racing mods[/url]:conf:

 

[Lemans]

i know what you mean, i used to do that too... purchase cars just to see what they would look like. Not all of them had racing mods though...

 

[Galliano]

Alright boys and girls. Been reading through these posts and thought how good a lot of the comments are. Monk seems to have his head screwed on and i agree that not having reverse lights was a screw up, i reckon they seriously forgot, not that i ever reverse you understand!! )
  Why do some people get irate about bitching about niggles with the game? It's the only way GT4 will be better.
  One thing none of you have touched on that pisses me off the most is the lack of choice between horizontal and vertical split screen. With a widescreen TV having vertical split on two player mode would be great.
  Hmmm....yes we pay £320 for the bundle in the UK, but we are used to being ripped off!! This one will kill you guys over the pond.....we pay about $6 for a gallon of petrol (gas). And yes it does hurt every time you fill up. Comments on the split screen thing would be welcome.