Group C Endurance League Starting January 2025, Open 7pm, Qualifying 8pm, Race 8:45pm Eastern USOpen

[Cold Warrior]

You what I'm just going plan B. I'm just pushing Le Mans, Monza, and Suzuka races back. Enjoy your easy October. The last 4 races are back to back.

Next Race

10/19, 4. 400km of Le Mans (No Chicane)
Race Details
Le Mans No Chicane, 30 Laps Race, 252.9 miles (407 km), Afternoon Start, Time Change x3, Night Driving Yes, Weather Change Random, Rain Maybe, Fuel At Start 92%, 20 Minutes GT Group Qualifying, Corner Penalties Weak, Contact Penalty On, Delayed Race Start to About 8:35pm EDT

Following Race

11/2, 5. 350 km of Monza
Race Details
Autodromo Nazionale Monza Full Course, 61 Laps Race, 219.6 miles (353.4 km), Late Morning Start, Time Change x3, Night Driving No, Weather Change Random, Rain No, Fuel At Start 96%, 15 Minutes GT Group Qualifying, Corner Penalties Weak, Contact Penalty On

Race Schedule

Races Held
8/31, 0. Prologue 160km of St Croix C
9/7, 1. 395 km of High Speed Ring (Reverse)
9/14, 2. 285 km of Brands Hatch
9/28, 3. 310 km of Nurburgring (Nordschleife)

Races Upcoming
10/19, 4. 400km of Le Mans (No Chicane)
11/2, 5. 350 km of Monza
11/9, 6. 300 km of Suzuka Circuit
11/16, 7. Willow Springs 205 (Big Willow)
11/23, 8. Road Atlanta 195

 

[Cold Warrior]

Hey with the extra time off and a busy November. I should probably put some work into the 2025 Endurance League season. As much I would like to keep the multi class races. We only have 5 to 6 regulars. So I not sure if this is realistic. This is meant as pro level sport car racing series. So I won't go below the Gr.3 class. So what's everyone else thoughts Gr.1, Gr.2, or Gr.3. Or something more specific within them like Super GT or Group C.

 

[fastone371]

Hey with the extra time off and a busy November. I should probably put some work into the 2025 Endurance League season. As much I would like to keep the multi class races. We only have 5 to 6 regulars. So I not sure if this is realistic. This is meant as pro level sport car racing series. So I won't go below the Gr.3 class. So what's everyone else thoughts Gr.1, Gr.2, or Gr.3. Or something more specific within them like Super GT or Group C.

I think GR2 would be a great series to run. We have never run them before, maybe it would draw a few more entrants.

 

[Quebeker]

Oh, hey someone new. Come in come in. Yes we are new drivers of any skill. Welcome to Saturday Night Endurance League. Our IMSA / WEC style flagship series is out of season until January.

We currently in the middle of a limited run league called 1,600 Miles Series. It's a classic road car and race car series loosely based off an event from Gran Turismo 4. All races of the league are about 2 hours duration. We have currently have already ran 3 of the 8 points. Next race is scheduled 10/12/24 at Le Mans No Chicane layout. Details for this league are available in post #4. Send a friend request to TheColdWarriors if still interested.

Friend request sent.
My PSN name is Quebeker1

 

[Cold Warrior]

I think GR2 would be a great series to run. We have never run them before, maybe it would draw a few more entrants.

The more I think about it. The I'm lending towards a Group C season. Why 1st of all because I've been do so for some time. And I think it's good to time do it. For starters as permanent 2025 Le Mans race will be on the No Chicane layout. Players just got the Mazda for free with no wear.

Then I feel MRs car won this big update. This includes the Group C cars. All 5 cars are easier to drive than they were before the update. The Jaguar's stability issues seems to gone. Though I still need to test that out more.

I do have desire to do a Super GT series as well but, I would prefer to wait on that for now. Motegi may be on it's way. I would prefer to wait and include it since it's a track on their schedule. I also feel I still need to do more research into Super GT operations. Maybe next year's Fall series.

 

[Cold Warrior]

Friend request sent.
My PSN name is Quebeker1

Friend request accepted. Our next race has been moved back a week to Saturday October 19th. So you get an extra week to prepare.

 

[fastone371]

The more I think about it. The I'm lending towards a Group C season. Why 1st of all because I've been do so for some time. And I think it's good to time do it. For starters as permanent 2025 Le Mans race will be on the No Chicane layout. Players just got the Mazda for free with no wear.

Then I feel MRs car won this big update. This includes the Group C cars. All 5 cars are easier to drive than they were before the update. The Jaguar's stability issues seems to gone. Though I still need to test that out more.

I do have desire to do a Super GT series as well but, I would prefer to wait on that for now. Motegi may be on it's way. I would prefer to wait and include it since it's a track on their schedule. I also feel I still need to do more research into Super GT operations. Maybe next year's Fall series.

Last season you guys ran Group C because they were eligible, why a second year in a row? Don't be afraid to try new things

 

[Cold Warrior]

Last season you guys ran Group C because they were eligible, why a second year in a row? Don't be afraid to try new things

What do you. I ran Porsche 919 most of the season. I only swapped to the Mercedes for I think 2 or 3 races to make things more competitive with Michel-QC_21's Mazda 787B. Then swapped back to the more modern 919 for the remainder of the season. After someone moved up to the Gr.1 class. And ran the same Mazda LM55 they ran the previous season. So who needs to try new things again?

 

[fastone371]

What do you. I ran Porsche 919 most of the season. I only swapped to the Mercedes for I think 2 or 3 races to make things more competitive with Michel-QC_21's Mazda 787B. Then swapped back to the more modern 919 for the remainder of the season. After someone moved up to the Gr.1 class. And ran the same Mazda LM55 they ran the previous season. So who needs to try new things again?

That was mainly due to me not having time to play video games all day, I only get to drive for a little while on weekend mornings.
I seem to remember you in the Group C Nissan, don't remember the racing series though.
I have tried numerous different cars in GR3.
I still stand by my statement though.
How about a spec series where we all run the same different car each week? I gets kinda boring running the same car race after race. Just trying to give you some ideas, people ain't actually beating the door down to run this series.

 

[Cold Warrior]

That was mainly due to me not having time to play video games all day, I only get to drive for a little while on weekend mornings.
I seem to remember you in the Group C Nissan, don't remember the racing series though.
I have tried numerous different cars in GR3.
I still stand by my statement though.
How about a spec series where we all run the same different car each week? I gets kinda boring running the same car race after race. Just trying to give you some ideas, people ain't actually beating the door down to run this series.

I ran the Nissan for the 2023 season of the Endurance League. Which I really need a better name for.

Anyways I tried a make-one rotating series for 2023 Fall season. Attendance was low or non existing. Two of the weeks got canceled.

Meanwhile I had 3 players volunteer to move up to the Gr.1 class by the end of season. Do to the success of the Hypercar prototype class. Both IMSA and WEC are seeing a resurgence in popularity.

 

[fastone371]

I ran the Nissan for the 2023 season of the Endurance League. Which I really need a better name for.

Anyways I tried a make-one rotating series for 2023 Fall season. Attendance was low or non existing. Two of the weeks got canceled.

Meanwhile I had 3 players volunteer to move up to the Gr.1 class by the end of season. Do to the success of the Hypercar prototype class. Both IMSA and WEC are seeing a resurgence in popularity.

OK, hope it works out for you then

 

[Cold Warrior]

OK, hope it works out for you then

I'm not looking to turn our flagship series into touring car racing. Gran Turismo primary focus is sports car racing. And I want the flagship series to represent top class sports car racing of some variety.

The Group C era of prototype was a popular era for both fans and manufacturers. We missing some highlight manufacturers representatives from the era like Toyota and Peugeot.

Am I 100% sure this will draw. No I'm not but, I've tried that I would. And those didn't work either. Gr.3 is supposed to be a popular class. Last season the class fell apart to the point they couldn't run Watkins Glen.

As said I've been wanting to do a Group C for a while. It's one of my personal favorite eras that I unfortunately never got to experience. I do have desire to do either a Gr.2 or Super GT specific series. Super GT run a pretty short season so it would work much better for the series anyways.

 

[Cold Warrior]

Reminder our next race at Le Mans was moved October 19th. About 12 days from this post. Also I've made some minor updates to the forum. I'm also probably going to with a Group C focused 2025 endurance league. Collect these 5 cars Jaguar XJR-9, Mazda 787B, Sauber Mercedes C9, Nissan R92CP, and Porsche 962C from legends if you don’t already own them. So you have more choices. Recent prices range from 1.5 to 3.7 Million credits. Exact details are TBA. Oh and don't forget to about your track picks.

Next Race

10/19, 4. 400km of Le Mans (No Chicane)
Race Details
Le Mans No Chicane, 30 Laps Race, 252.9 miles (407 km), Afternoon Start, Time Change x3, Night Driving Yes, Weather Change Random, Rain Maybe, Tires x4, Fuel x2, Fuel At Start 92%, 20 Minutes GT Group Qualifying, Corner Penalties Weak, Contact Penalty On, Delayed Race Start to About 8:35pm EDT

Following Race

11/2, 5. 350 km of Monza
Race Details
Autodromo Nazionale Monza Full Course, 61 Laps Race, 219.6 miles (353.4 km), Late Morning Start, Time Change x3, Night Driving No, Weather Change Random, Rain No, Tires x4, Fuel x2, Fuel At Start 96%, 15 Minutes GT Group Qualifying, Corner Penalties Weak, Contact Penalty On

 

[Cold Warrior]

Hey @fastone371 I have an interesting about GT7 physics. You may be able to answer with this upcoming race. Do pop-up lights aerodynamically affect your car? I'm curious if you have noticed if the C4 is slower on the straight with the lights open?

 

[fastone371]

Hey @fastone371 I have an interesting about GT7 physics. You may be able to answer with this upcoming race. Do pop-up lights aerodynamically affect your car? I'm curious if you have noticed if the C4 is slower on the straight with the lights open?

I don't think they affect aero but I would have to test to be sure.

 

[Cold Warrior]

I don't think they affect aero but I would have to test to be sure.

Realistically they should. I'm curious if they put in that level of detail. It would easiest to confirm it in a controlled environment with no wind. Unlike Gran Turismo for their time trials. I don't believe we can turn off wind.

 

[Quebeker]

I think GR2 would be a great series to run. We have never run them before, maybe it would draw a few more entrants.

Realistically they should. I'm curious if they put in that level of detail. It would easiest to confirm it in a controlled environment with no wind. Unlike Gran Turismo for their time trials. I don't believe we can turn off wind.

You can't necessarily turn off the wind but you can turn off the changing weather.
Turn on Equal Conditions Mode and the weather should stay the same

 

[Cold Warrior]

You can't necessarily turn off the wind but you can turn off the changing weather.
Turn on Equal Conditions Mode and the weather should stay the same
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I know about the presets. The issue is that the time of day would have to be changed. Without the wind changing to properly test if pop-up lights aerodynamically effect your performance when they are open.

 

[Cold Warrior]

Reminder no race for us this weekend. Enjoy the Xfinity race and 10 hours of Road Atlanta. Our next race for the 1,600 Miles Series next Saturday October 19th at Le Mans No Chicane.

Next Race

10/19, 4. 400km of Le Mans (No Chicane)
Race Details
Le Mans No Chicane, 30 Laps Race, 252.9 miles (407 km), Afternoon Start, Time Change x3, Night Driving Yes, Weather Change Random, Rain Maybe, Tires x4, Fuel x2, Fuel At Start 92%, 20 Minutes GT Group Qualifying, Corner Penalties Weak, Contact Penalty On, Delayed Race Start to About 8:35pm EDT

 

[Cold Warrior]

@Quebeker Good news I finally remember to add you to our PSN league chat. Our next race is this Saturday October 19th. Race 4 of 8 for 1,600 Miles classic sports car series. You can find the information series in post #4.

 

[Cold Warrior]

Less than 3 days until our next for 1,600 Miles Series. Hope you enjoyed your extended vacations. Hope repost the lobby schedule, regulations, and next details. Both as reminder those already completing. And as a reference for possible new competitor(s). In other clocks change to standard time the US immediately after our race at Monza. And will be in effect for Suzuka. See you soon in Le Mans, France.

2024 Fall Lobby Schedule

*Lobby Open / Practice Start
EDT / EST 7:00pm
PDT / EST 4:00pm

Note: I may open early if I have nothing better to do.

*Qualifying Starts
EDT / EST 8:00pm
PDT / PST 5:00pm

*Notes: There will a short break in between qualifying and race. The room will be reset to allow late arrivals to enter the race. Drivers who enter after qualifying will

*Race Starts
EDT / EST 8:30pm
PDT / PST 5:30pm

*Note: Eastern US Standard / Daylight Savings Time is the advertised time.

*Note Nurburgring and Le Mans races may start late due to extended qualifying.

*Time Zone Key
Eastern Standard Time = EST UTC-5
Eastern Daylight Savings Time = EDT UTC-4
Pacific Standard Time = PST UTC-8
Pacific Daylight Savings Time = PDT UTC-7

*Next US Clock Change
November 3rd, 2024

*Note: Next clock change might be our last for most of the US.

Car Regulations

Current of 9/15/24.
Special Regulations
*1989 or Older
*Reverse Grandfathering for car models that began production before 1990. List of eligible grandfathered cars provide below.
*Road Cars, Race Cars, and Dated Concepts Allowed
*No Non-dated Cars
*Car must have working lights
*No Gr.1 Group C
*Fully Customizable: Racing Transmission Cannot Be Used

Reverse Grandfathered Cars List

Ferrari F40 '92
Ferrari Testarossa '91
Lancia Delta HF Integrale Evoluzione '91
Mazda RX-7 FC GT-X '90
Mercedes 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II '91
Nissan Silvia S13 Ks Dia Selection '90
Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R Nismo '90
Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R V-Spec II '94
Porsche 911 964 Carrera RS '92
Volvo 240 SE Estate 1993

Regulations

*580 pp
*No BOP
*Tuning Allowed
*Sports Hards Tires Only
*No Nitrous
*No Engine Swaps
*Tires x4
*Fuel x2
*Only ABS and Driving Line Allowed

Driving Options Settings (Aids)

*Counter-steer Assist Prohibited
*ASM Assist Prohibited
*ABS No Limit
*Traction Control Prohibited
*Driving Line No Limit
*Auto-drive Prohibited

10/19, 4. 400km of Le Mans (No Chicane)
Race Details
Le Mans No Chicane, 30 Laps Race, 252.9 miles (407 km), Afternoon Start, Time Change x3, Night Driving Yes, Weather Change Random, Rain Maybe, Tires x4, Fuel x2, Fuel At Start 92%, 20 Minutes GT Group Qualifying, Corner Penalties Weak, Contact Penalty On, Delayed Race Start to About 8:35pm EDT

 

[fastone371]

Less than 3 days until our next for 1,600 Miles Series. Hope you enjoyed your extended vacations. Hope repost the lobby schedule, regulations, and next details. Both as reminder those already completing. And as a reference for possible new competitor(s). In other clocks change to standard time the US immediately after our race at Monza. And will be in effect for Suzuka. See you soon in Le Mans, France.

2024 Fall Lobby Schedule

*Lobby Open / Practice Start
EDT / EST 7:00pm
PDT / EST 4:00pm

Note: I may open early if I have nothing better to do.

*Qualifying Starts
EDT / EST 8:00pm
PDT / PST 5:00pm

*Notes: There will a short break in between qualifying and race. The room will be reset to allow late arrivals to enter the race. Drivers who enter after qualifying will

*Race Starts
EDT / EST 8:30pm
PDT / PST 5:30pm

*Note: Eastern US Standard / Daylight Savings Time is the advertised time.

*Note Nurburgring and Le Mans races may start late due to extended qualifying.

*Time Zone Key
Eastern Standard Time = EST UTC-5
Eastern Daylight Savings Time = EDT UTC-4
Pacific Standard Time = PST UTC-8
Pacific Daylight Savings Time = PDT UTC-7

*Next US Clock Change
November 3rd, 2024

*Note: Next clock change might be our last for most of the US.

Car Regulations

Current of 9/15/24.
Special Regulations
*1989 or Older
*Reverse Grandfathering for car models that began production before 1990. List of eligible grandfathered cars provide below.
*Road Cars, Race Cars, and Dated Concepts Allowed
*No Non-dated Cars
*Car must have working lights
*No Gr.1 Group C
*Fully Customizable: Racing Transmission Cannot Be Used

Reverse Grandfathered Cars List

Ferrari F40 '92
Ferrari Testarossa '91
Lancia Delta HF Integrale Evoluzione '91
Mazda RX-7 FC GT-X '90
Mercedes 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II '91
Nissan Silvia S13 Ks Dia Selection '90
Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R Nismo '90
Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R V-Spec II '94
Porsche 911 964 Carrera RS '92
Volvo 240 SE Estate 1993

Regulations

*580 pp
*No BOP
*Tuning Allowed
*Sports Hards Tires Only
*No Nitrous
*No Engine Swaps
*Tires x4
*Fuel x2
*Only ABS and Driving Line Allowed

Driving Options Settings (Aids)

*Counter-steer Assist Prohibited
*ASM Assist Prohibited
*ABS No Limit
*Traction Control Prohibited
*Driving Line No Limit
*Auto-drive Prohibited

10/19, 4. 400km of Le Mans (No Chicane)
Race Details
Le Mans No Chicane, 30 Laps Race, 252.9 miles (407 km), Afternoon Start, Time Change x3, Night Driving Yes, Weather Change Random, Rain Maybe, Tires x4, Fuel x2, Fuel At Start 92%, 20 Minutes GT Group Qualifying, Corner Penalties Weak, Contact Penalty On, Delayed Race Start to About 8:35pm EDT

Please do not wait for me, I will be absent.

 

[Cold Warrior]

Please do not wait for me, I will be absent.

Sadness I will miss you. Halloween plans I'm guessing. The C4 was one of the best cars on the straight when I was testing too.

 

[fastone371]

Sadness I will miss you. Halloween plans I'm guessing. The C4 was one of the best cars on the straight when I was testing too.

The Vette has no top speed, taking suspension parts and brakes off yields so little PP that the extra power does not add much speed. You have had more top speed at both of the last 2 races. The only way I won HSR was fuel mileage and making 1 less stop, everybody is saving fuel now.

 

[Cold Warrior]

The Vette has no top speed, taking suspension parts and brakes off yields so little PP that the extra power does not add much speed. You have had more top speed at both of the last 2 races. The only way I won HSR was fuel mileage and making 1 less stop, everybody is saving fuel now.

The A220 was designed for Le Mans. Like many of those cars were. It's good at the end of straights but, lacks in acceleration. I actually chose to go against be authentic. And decided to be innovative. And added turbo to boost acceleration and top speed for Le Mans. Will probably use it a Monza too. It did bring down lap times but, still nowhere close to what Michel-QC_21 posted. He's been very fast for anything involving tuning for both us and on Wednesday nights.

 

[Cold Warrior]

We are within about 9 hours of our next race at the Le Mans No Chicane. And less than 7 hours until the lobbies schedule opening tonight. I may open early if life allows and I have nothing else better. Fastone371 has unfortunately confirmed his absence for this race. For the rest of you. I hope to see you soon.

 

[Cold Warrior]

Lobby open early

 

[Cold Warrior]

11/2, 5. 350 km of Monza
Race Details
Autodromo Nazionale Monza Full Course, 61 Laps Race, 219.6 miles (353.4 km), Late Morning Start, Time Change x3, Night Driving No, Weather Change Random, Rain No, Tires x4, Fuel x2, Fuel At Start 96%, 15 Minutes GT Group Qualifying, Corner Penalties Weak, Contact Penalty On

 

[Quebeker]

Sorry, I was sick last night and just couldn't race

 

[Cold Warrior]

Sorry, I was sick last night and just couldn't race

Alright hope you feel better.