Gruppe5's BMW 2002 Restomod is an 800hp V10 Monster

[Joey D]

827,535 02 saloons according to BMW.

.. and yes.

With that many made I'm sure someone out there has a whole fleet of pristine ones.

If I had the money, I'd buy one of these just to piss off enthusiasts because there's nothing better than a salty enthusiast in the automotive world.

For me it's not so much that they cut up a car as it is the end result. Admittedly the 02-series seems to not be afflicted by the asshattery of later model owners, but they've still never appealed to me.

Oh don't get me wrong, the end result is hideous. But I can tolerate a handful of hideous cars when it's not rare in the first place. Now if it was a 2002 Turbo, it'd be a different story since that is actually rare.

 

[Tornado]

That's a lot of cool stuff going into this car for a lot of money for them to present it with renders that look like a mod for Vice City.

 

[MatskiMonk]

If I had the money, I'd buy one of these just to piss off enthusiasts because there's nothing better than a salty enthusiast in the automotive world.

... yeah, bet ya go trophy hunting elephants and snow leopards too, to make a nice patchwork quilt... don'tcha.

 

[Vegard]

While trying to imagine who would want to spend $1M on this abomination I've come to the realization that I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

 

[Joey D]

... yeah, bet ya go trophy hunting elephants and snow leopards too, to make a nice patchwork quilt... don'tcha.

Well, those are endangered species. Do you know what's not an endangered species? The BMW 02.

If we were talking about hacking up a 2002 Turbo, I'd feel very different. But this just a standard BMW that had over 800,000 examples made.

 

[CSMDuty11]

For something called Gruppe5, you'd think they'd have gone wilder.
That said also, it was apparently a thing for a while now

 

[Tornado]

Well, those are endangered species. Do you know what's not an endangered species? The BMW 02.

If we were talking about hacking up a 2002 Turbo, I'd feel very different. But this just a standard BMW that had over 800,000 examples made.

I sure know that most "regular people" cars of the 1960s and 1970s from other manufacturers didn't even make it through the 1980s even if you're just limiting it to them rusting into the ground. BMWs of this era don't seem to be any different in that respect.



So, in response to "salty enthusiasts" being dismissed out of hand because BMW made so many, I take it you researched the numbers still left on the road for the car that went out of production 42 years ago?

 

[05XR8]

I think that so long as there's an old car in there somewhere being restored, and modern bits to make it feel newer, it's a restomod.

I mean, Singer's DLS is no less ridiculous than this - it's a 964 underneath carbon-fibre everything, with modern brakes, suspension, gearbox, tyres (which are pus
hed out under bulbous arches)... and then a 500hp engine from Williams, using F1 tech.

Other restomods use electric power, and I don't think that innately disqualifies them from being restomods either.


Edit: Now I'm wondering about modorests. Take ancient, cack suspension, brakes, gearbox and engine from a really old car and shove it into a brand new equivalent. Imagine a 2019 Fiesta on 135/60 R13 Uniroyal remoulds, with a four-speed manual and 45hp CVH... phwoar.

Depends how far back you want to go.

Put some wagon wheels on it and it handles like it's on....

 

[Joey D]

I sure know that most cars of the 1960s and 1970s from other manufacturers didn't even make it through the 1980s even if you're just limiting it to them rusting into the ground. BMWs of this era don't seem to be any different in that respect.



So, in response to "salty enthusiasts" being dismissed out of hand because BMW made so many, I take it you researched the numbers still left on the road for the car that went out of production 42 years ago?

Even if around 90% of them are gone some, that still leaves nearly 100,000 left in existence.

People get way too bent out of shape when people start modifying classic cars, especially classic cars that were built in huge numbers. If it's something that started with just a couple hundred examples, it's a little different. But the 02 BMW was massed produced to the point that it's funny anyone gets offended that some company is hacking up, at most, 300 of them.

 

[Famine]

Excluding the tii (and the 56 cabriolets), there's 394 2002s still on the UK's roads alone...

... but you don't need a roadworthy car for this. You just need a mostly intact body shell will all three of its VIN plates.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Are we really golden-calfing so hard that this is comparable to killing off endangered species for fun?

 

[Tornado]

Even if around 90% of them are gone some, that still leaves nearly 100,000 left in existence.

That's some good research.

People get way too bent out of shape when people start modifying classic cars, especially classic cars that were built in huge numbers.

I'm sure this helps:

If I had the money, I'd buy one of these just to piss off enthusiasts because there's nothing better than a salty enthusiast in the automotive world.

 

[TexRex]

golden-calfing

 

[RedRockValley]

Hm. The fact that you just only really need a regular 2002 doesn't make me so heated about this idea anymore.

Honestly, I seriously doubt many will turn in their 2002 for this anyway. It's quite pricey.

 

[MatskiMonk]

Are we really golden-calfing so hard that this is comparable to killing off endangered species for fun?

Who's we?

 

[GTboyz]

Hm. The fact that you just only really need a regular 2002 doesn't make me so heated about this idea anymore.

Honestly, I seriously doubt many will turn in their 2002 for this anyway. It's quite pricey.

It looks bad too.

 

[Leggacy]

I don’t care if this is classic car heresy, it appeals to the child in me. I want this in a game, I mean sim

 

[FoRiZon]

With that kind of approach, instead of Restomod they should've better be gone with the Silhouette instead.

 

[kikie]

I prefer this one.

 

[05XR8]

I prefer this one.

Bet they'd sell more if they put DTM motors in those. 600hp 2l turbo.

 

[Sick Cylinder]

300 is obviously a joke. I'll be surprised if they sell more than 3!