GT Good Drifting
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OK...I can already tell I'm going to get *****ed at about this, but do you people actually know what a drift is? Cause I really don't believe you do, or else you wouldn't be calling FF drifting "ass dragging."
First of all, when drifting first started, it was almost entirely FF cars. The only reason it's almost completely FR cars now is just the fact that its a better platform for it and easier. I won't argue with that, I use one myself. And I'm not talking about GT3 either. And if you don't believe me or disagree, you can talk to Komatsu, he's one of the bet, if not the best drifters in Japan and driver for Signal, he'll tell the same thing. In fact now that I think about it, go buy GRIP: volume 2, I think he's in that and mentions something about it.
Second, a drift isn't "loss of traction with the rear wheels to slide a bend." That again is wrong, it's just a technique. Simply put, drifting is this: A CONTROLLEDS SLIDE. period. end of story. If you think it's anything else, your wrong and have been poorly informed.
Third, I want to know how many of you actually know the rules for drifting and how it's scored. Don't get me wrong, there is about 4 people on here that I've noticed actually know what they're talking about when it comes to drifting and eveything, but I'd say the other 98% have no clue, or only have a slightly small part of it right. For one, yeah, they score you on the smoothness of the slide, and how fast you go and how fast you keep it going, but that's clearly not all and far from it. How many of you actaully know that they score you really hard on how close you can keep the drifting to the actual racing lines you would use in grip racing? From what I've seen, just about noone. Also, did you actually know that they score you better, for how close you can get to the edge of the track without actually going off into the dirt? Not only that, along with the smoothness of the slide, they score on the drivers ability, but that's pretty damn obvious. Lately they score you to on how pumped up you can get the crowd and theres big points for how close you can can your rear end to a wall and how much balls you got to drift towards a wall.
I know you've all prolly heard this about a million times so sorry, but I had to post it. There's just to many ignorant people on these forums and people that talk **** and saying that FF drifting isn't true drifting. It's part of driftings roots and history. And yes I do drift and auto-x, i drive a 97' 240sx (s14 silvia body style to most people) with an rb25det swap and lots of suspension and engine work.
First of all, when drifting first started, it was almost entirely FF cars. The only reason it's almost completely FR cars now is just the fact that its a better platform for it and easier. I won't argue with that, I use one myself. And I'm not talking about GT3 either. And if you don't believe me or disagree, you can talk to Komatsu, he's one of the bet, if not the best drifters in Japan and driver for Signal, he'll tell the same thing. In fact now that I think about it, go buy GRIP: volume 2, I think he's in that and mentions something about it.
Second, a drift isn't "loss of traction with the rear wheels to slide a bend." That again is wrong, it's just a technique. Simply put, drifting is this: A CONTROLLEDS SLIDE. period. end of story. If you think it's anything else, your wrong and have been poorly informed.
Third, I want to know how many of you actually know the rules for drifting and how it's scored. Don't get me wrong, there is about 4 people on here that I've noticed actually know what they're talking about when it comes to drifting and eveything, but I'd say the other 98% have no clue, or only have a slightly small part of it right. For one, yeah, they score you on the smoothness of the slide, and how fast you go and how fast you keep it going, but that's clearly not all and far from it. How many of you actaully know that they score you really hard on how close you can keep the drifting to the actual racing lines you would use in grip racing? From what I've seen, just about noone. Also, did you actually know that they score you better, for how close you can get to the edge of the track without actually going off into the dirt? Not only that, along with the smoothness of the slide, they score on the drivers ability, but that's pretty damn obvious. Lately they score you to on how pumped up you can get the crowd and theres big points for how close you can can your rear end to a wall and how much balls you got to drift towards a wall.
I know you've all prolly heard this about a million times so sorry, but I had to post it. There's just to many ignorant people on these forums and people that talk **** and saying that FF drifting isn't true drifting. It's part of driftings roots and history. And yes I do drift and auto-x, i drive a 97' 240sx (s14 silvia body style to most people) with an rb25det swap and lots of suspension and engine work.
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"Yeah, yeah, your wrong. Its was always mosly FR's. Stop coming up acting like you know everything. Its ass dragging, its just skidding. Its like slamming the brakes on a bicycles. The back just slides, you aren't acually breaking traction, just simulating it. Ass."
Actually I do know all about it, I've been drifting and doing auto-x for 3 1/2 years now and do know what I'm talking about. Also, I've been into it long before it's became the "new trend" so don't talk down to me like I don't have the slightest idea what I'm talking about. And like I said, I do drift and auto-x in an FR car, but I know that FF cars can drift and respect people that can do it, it's very hard to do. And yes, in the begining drifting was mostly FF cars. Look it up, research it with reliable resources and not on a site like this, you'll see that im right about this, I'm 100% completely sure of it.
"The back just slides, you aren't acually breaking traction, just simulating it. Ass."
Like I said before, a drift isn't defined as breaking traction with the back end, a drift is A CONTROLLED SLIDE! It doesn't matter what it's in, or how it's done, if you're sliding, and you have complete control over that car and the slide, whether it's only 10 feet, or 100 feet, that's a drift.
"Its like slamming the brakes on a bicycles."
I see what your saying, but it's still wrong. Although you are making that bike slide and the back end slide, it's nothing like drifitng a FF car other than using the brakes, FR cars use the e-brake A TON, and it's not a beginner technique at all. But anyways, back to the bike, that bike is sliding, but there is no way you can control it sliding like that around a bend or at all basically. That's more like pulling the e-brake in a RWD car anyways, you're going to need that back wheel spinning and gripping somewhat to control where it's going whereas in a fwd car you can lock that wheel, but you can still control where your going and go that with way with the front wheels, which amazingly brings me to the point....that makes it a controlled slide, A.K.A. DRIFTING.
"st simulating it. Ass."
I didn't call you any names and didn't point any of my post directly at you in the first place, so I don't really appreciate being called an ASS. Besides that, it makes you look really ignorant and makes me believe that you're really immature and not old enough to even drive yet.
Actually I do know all about it, I've been drifting and doing auto-x for 3 1/2 years now and do know what I'm talking about. Also, I've been into it long before it's became the "new trend" so don't talk down to me like I don't have the slightest idea what I'm talking about. And like I said, I do drift and auto-x in an FR car, but I know that FF cars can drift and respect people that can do it, it's very hard to do. And yes, in the begining drifting was mostly FF cars. Look it up, research it with reliable resources and not on a site like this, you'll see that im right about this, I'm 100% completely sure of it.
"The back just slides, you aren't acually breaking traction, just simulating it. Ass."
Like I said before, a drift isn't defined as breaking traction with the back end, a drift is A CONTROLLED SLIDE! It doesn't matter what it's in, or how it's done, if you're sliding, and you have complete control over that car and the slide, whether it's only 10 feet, or 100 feet, that's a drift.
"Its like slamming the brakes on a bicycles."
I see what your saying, but it's still wrong. Although you are making that bike slide and the back end slide, it's nothing like drifitng a FF car other than using the brakes, FR cars use the e-brake A TON, and it's not a beginner technique at all. But anyways, back to the bike, that bike is sliding, but there is no way you can control it sliding like that around a bend or at all basically. That's more like pulling the e-brake in a RWD car anyways, you're going to need that back wheel spinning and gripping somewhat to control where it's going whereas in a fwd car you can lock that wheel, but you can still control where your going and go that with way with the front wheels, which amazingly brings me to the point....that makes it a controlled slide, A.K.A. DRIFTING.
"st simulating it. Ass."
I didn't call you any names and didn't point any of my post directly at you in the first place, so I don't really appreciate being called an ASS. Besides that, it makes you look really ignorant and makes me believe that you're really immature and not old enough to even drive yet.
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oh, and i know this is argued over 900000 times a day, i don't care.
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While I admire XzifT's enthusiasm on the topic, I don't think it alone will win the argument. S14 welcome to the forum and I'm glad to see another knowledgable body joining the ranks, hope we can expect more similar contributions to our relentlessly pointless debates 
Anyway, back to the topic at hand. You make an excellent point about controlled slides, and that is without a doubt the definition of drifting. However, to say that FF drifting is even mildly difficult is a joke. For that reason, FF drifting doesn't and never will have the respect of the drifting community even in the japanese drift scene. Calling it drifting is like calling a Cavalier vs an Accord a drag race. People will laugh if you say it. Sure FF's can be slid in a controlled manner, but does that make it true in the spirit of drifting? It's almost an insult!
Anyway, back to the topic at hand. You make an excellent point about controlled slides, and that is without a doubt the definition of drifting. However, to say that FF drifting is even mildly difficult is a joke. For that reason, FF drifting doesn't and never will have the respect of the drifting community even in the japanese drift scene. Calling it drifting is like calling a Cavalier vs an Accord a drag race. People will laugh if you say it. Sure FF's can be slid in a controlled manner, but does that make it true in the spirit of drifting? It's almost an insult!
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