GT lost it’s Audio lead

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what will that mean for the future of GT? GT7 car sounds were really good in my eyes.
It could mean too many things to make any conclusions at this point. Maybe the audio will be about the same quality in the future, or even better. Or worse. We really can't tell at this point.
 
People leave jobs all the time, man. I just left mine (last day is Wednesday). I don't know what to tell you. But this doesn't mean that all of a sudden the car audio quality will automatically get worse.....or better. It just means someone else will be doing it.
 
Thing is Mike Caviezel was not just a lead, but the senior audio lead. Which means he essentially had more say so in the direction of the games' audio than other sound engineers on the team did. This will have an impact on the sound going forward.
 
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Not great. The sound design was the one area that wasn't a complete dumpster fire in GT7.

Hope we're not going back to vacuum cleaner engines for future DLC cars.
Yes, before him, GT was well known for its vacuum cleaner history.
That was my first thinking, as GT Sport and GT7 with him got to the right direction, and now the direction might could getbackwards..
Hope so not
 
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Well, fingers crossed they learnt something from what he brought to the table. That's about all there is to take away.

No need to be concerned necessarily, providing they don't all immediately forget his methodology.
 
Well, fingers crossed they learnt something from what he brought to the table. That's about all there is to take away.

No need to be concerned necessarily, providing they don't all immediately forget his methodology.
It's less about forgetting and more the concern that they'll be managed to go back to the old ways. Plenty of people out there in business know how to do something well but are instructed to do it in a way that is cheaper, but worse, by a manager.

That's the concern. That now he's gone someone else comes in and tells them to go back to the surely cheaper method of recording and processing.
 
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It's quite funny for people to think that sounds will be crap again because one audio guy decided to leave.
 
It's quite funny for people to think that sounds will be crap again because one audio guy decided to leave.
The audio lead. The guy in charge. The guy PD hired specifically to improve the audio. The guy who did finally improve the audio. It is significant. What effect it has, only time will tell. But it is certainly no positive to (seemingly) have your audio lead poached away by another studio. He's not just some guy.
 
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The audio lead. The guy in charge. The guy PD hired specifically to improve the audio. The guy who did finally improve the audio. It is significant. What effect it has, only time will tell. But it is certainly no positive to (seemingly) have your audio lead poached away by another studio. He's not just some guy.
It's a bit insulting to everybody else working in that department to think that they can't do anything without him...
 
The audio lead. The guy in charge. The guy PD hired specifically to improve the audio. The guy who did finally improve the audio. It is significant. What effect it has, only time will tell. But it is certainly no positive to (seemingly) have your audio lead poached away by another studio. He's not just some guy.
Indeed, and we all know what happened to Forza, after he left there. The car sounds got worser and worsener with Motorsport 7 and Horizon 4. At first at Horizon 5, they turned the direction. But it significantly got worse after he left.

It's a bit insulting to everybody else working in that department to think that they can't do anything without him...
Guy look at Forza after he left there.
And we all don’t know, if he had taken members with to new company.
 
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It's a bit insulting to everybody else working in that department to think that they can't do anything without him...
With him replaced, PD could very well go back to the vacuum cleaner soundscape they were perfectly happy with for the first 20 years of the series.
 
With him replaced, PD could very well go back to the vacuum cleaner soundscape they were perfectly happy with for the first 20 years of the series.
"Could" being the operative in this instance.
 
With him replaced, PD could very well go back to the vacuum cleaner soundscape they were perfectly happy with for the first 20 years of the series.
Go back to roots, what everyone wanted from PD 🤪
I have to say, on weekend I watched a gt4 gameplay vid and the sounds gave me a nostalgic vibe of the old gran gurismo 😝
 
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It's a bit insulting to everybody else working in that department to think that they can't do anything without him...
I didn't say that, but it's a simple fact that he was the most senior audio engineer on the team. He was in charge. It doesn't matter who you are or what your history is, losing your lead is never going to be a good thing. He was hired for a reason, and the results speak for themselves.

Again, nobody is saying that the audio is going to get worse for a fact. Obviously nobody knows that. But it's perfectly valid thing to be concerned about. I know people like to spin everything as positive or "doesn't matter" but I'm sorry, losing your senior audio engineer is definitely a negative thing that people are right to be concerned about.
 
Jokes on you , all future cars will sound like vacuum cleaners anyway (EV) :D

but seriously developers come and go so it's rather normal nowdays - if this for better or worse we will see
 
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It's a bit insulting to everybody else working in that department to think that they can't do anything without him...
It's a bit insulting to everyone else who worked in that department that they did such a poor job before he got there.

If you accept that Mike Caviezel was a major factor in the reason why the sound in GTS and GT7 was so significantly improved, you have to accept that there's a chance that without him there the audio will not be up to the same standard. If simply anyone could do what he did then they wouldn't have needed to hire him in the first place.
 
One person means nothing when audio teams are made up of multiple people
You’d be surprised. He happens to be local to me, and I was actually able to meet and chat with him once (and if this news is true, only weeks before he left the team).

He was in fact the sole reason we got the car sounds modernized in GT Sport and on, redoing everything from scratch with his process. He could be extremely mobile with his setup, load up everything he needed in the trunk of a BMW, set up in a convenient dyno shop, and send recorded audio files to the team in Japan for mixing and programing in a matter of hours.

And while you’re right, there is an audio team back at base, Mike was the man on the ground sourcing and recording just about everything, at least in the US and maybe Europe. He told me PD previously didn’t “actually” have an in house audio team, Sony/Playstion had an internal audio team that was hired out to do work for all their various studios including stuff outside gaming, and they were the ones tasked with capturing the sounds prior to Mike’s arrival. He even talked about having to deal with a lot of corporate politics to get the team to shift to his methodology.

In fact this interaction with him is how I found out about the Porsche 918 being such a problem for them to record.

If this is in fact a parting of ways between the two, that’s a huge bummer for me. I was hoping within the next year or so I would’ve been able to position myself to use this connection to make an active contribution to the Gran Turismo series, and that may not be possible now.
 
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You’d be surprised. He happens to be local to me, and I was actually able to meet and chat with him once (and if this news is true, only weeks before he left the team).

He was in fact the sole reason we got the car sounds modernized in GT Sport and on, redoing everything from scratch with his process. He could be extremely mobile with his setup, load up everything he needed in the trunk of a BMW, set up in a convenient dyno shop, and send recorded audio files to the team in Japan for mixing and programing in a matter of hours.

And while you’re right, there is an audio team back at base, Mike was the man on the ground sourcing and recording just about everything, at least in the US and maybe Europe. He told me previously PD didn’t “actually” have an in house audio team, Sony/Playstion had an internal audio team that was hired out to do work for all their various studios including stuff outside gaming, and they were the ones tasked with capturing the sounds prior to Mike’s arrival. He even talked about having to deal with a lot of corporate politics to get the team to shift to his methodology.

In fact this interaction with him is how I found out about the Porsche 918 being such a problem for them to record.

If this is in fact a parting of ways between the two, that’s a huge bummer for me. I was hoping within the next year or so I would’ve been able to position myself to use this connection to make an active contribution to the Gran Turismo series, and that may not be possible now.
it looks for me, we have good chances to get the vacuum cleaner back, holy **** :ill:
 
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it looks for me, we have good chances to get the vacuum cleaner back, holy **** :ill:
If they’re already ~6-7 years into using this process and finding success, I don’t see why PD would revert to an even older not as successful process. We don’t know why he left, if he decided to do something else, or if PD decided they could now manage this process without Mike and asked him to take a lower position/politically encouraged him to leave (which is stuff that happens at all corporate levels, even as low as minimum wage).

I feel like worst case scenario it’ll just be a slower process to get the audio work done, I struggle to see why audio/sample quality would dramatically drop with the experience they have.
 
If they’re already ~6-7 years into using this process and finding success, I don’t see why PD would revert to an even older not as successful process. We don’t know why he left, if he decided to do something else, or if PD decided they could now manage this process without Mike and asked him to take a lower position/politically encouraged him to leave (which is stuff that happens at all corporate levels, even as low as minimum wage).

I feel like worst case scenario it’ll just be a slower process to get the audio work done, I struggle to see why audio/sample quality would dramatically drop with the experience they have.
He immediately took up a role at Pysonix so one would assume he was poached/headhunted.
 
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