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GT Sport (Race C) and FIA race mentality
- Thread starter Slo_Wass_Mike
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- Indiana
- pie4july
I've been biting my tongue for a while, but I really need to express my opinion. The biggest issue with sport mode is that so many players do not care about the consequences of their actions. They are casual players, and in my opinion, GT has always been the casual persons racing game.
Look at this appalling video. The amount of people that smash into each other in the first two laps is sad. I saw several drivers receive penalties in the first two laps alone...
(Yes I know, I spin in the video. I clipped the grass, but at least I didn't go running into anyone as half the field did)
On top of that, for three consecutive laps (starting on lap 2), someone went backwards.
This user constantly caused cautions meaning drivers could not pass while the yellow was out. I checked out their KP stats, and their Sr has ranged between E and S numerous times. The person does not care. They are there to win and will not allow anyone to be in their way.
Ride on board with the Axalta Lexus
Look at this appalling video. The amount of people that smash into each other in the first two laps is sad. I saw several drivers receive penalties in the first two laps alone...
(Yes I know, I spin in the video. I clipped the grass, but at least I didn't go running into anyone as half the field did)
On top of that, for three consecutive laps (starting on lap 2), someone went backwards.
This user constantly caused cautions meaning drivers could not pass while the yellow was out. I checked out their KP stats, and their Sr has ranged between E and S numerous times. The person does not care. They are there to win and will not allow anyone to be in their way.
Ride on board with the Axalta Lexus
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- 6,764
- Ontario
- SvennoJ
- SvenZ
It works for FIA races, qualifying in traffic for a limited time is a better way to determine race pace, yet it also has lots of disadvantages. And yes using average of your best 5 laps would reward people that do a lot of races. Yet it's the same with risk free qualifying for an hour or more.
I don't enjoy qualifying, I just want to race. Forcing me to do 5 laps before I can enter a race would be a deterrent. I usually do a couple races, then 1 lap in between to drag my qualifying time closer to my race pace. Forcing 5 best laps doesn't mean people would take less risk qualifying, just makes them qualify for longer, thus less people entering races.
Anyway I'm fine with the way it works now. It's simple, clear, and provides a nice meta game for the top 10 of the day. The one lap wonders always end up in the dirt or a wall while people that don't qualify doesn't mean they'll be bad in the race. People that are simply good, start on pole every race and win race after race, they would do the same no matter how you change it.
Perhaps a maximum time for qualifying per day, 10 minutes then wait until the next day, so more people to race, better matchmaking! /hides behind pit wall
Downhill Dino
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- DownhillDinosaur
Yes.
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- Phoenix Az.
- HuddyBob
@Sven Jurgens Not for argument, rather for discussion... and I have a great deal of respect for you, and very much enjoy your videos and contributions to the community... so, please understand that I'm simply "discussing" this, not trying to be argumentative... sorry if it comes across that way, but, that's really not my nature... so, please read with open mind...
As an example, you race a LOT, and should be able to knock out 5 laps from go... and, those that quali for an hour or more are not only building pace, but consistency... I'm all for that.
And, it would not be a case of less people entering races, it would be the same amount people entering the races, simply ~10 minutes later...
And, once your quali is done.. it's done... not recommending it's 5 laps prior ever race.
Come back to Dr.B and race against those that have achieved that rating due to ramming and smashing their way to gain places/points with visions of being an alien... and those with Dr. resets hell bent to get back to Dr.A+... it's an inpatient bunch.
Yes and no...
As an example, you race a LOT, and should be able to knock out 5 laps from go... and, those that quali for an hour or more are not only building pace, but consistency... I'm all for that.
Correct me, but it seems you race for hours daily... putting in 5 laps in less than 15 minutes is 1 race missed...
And, it would not be a case of less people entering races, it would be the same amount people entering the races, simply ~10 minutes later...
And, once your quali is done.. it's done... not recommending it's 5 laps prior ever race.
People that are simply good are not the problem...
Come back to Dr.B and race against those that have achieved that rating due to ramming and smashing their way to gain places/points with visions of being an alien... and those with Dr. resets hell bent to get back to Dr.A+... it's an inpatient bunch.
- 3,954
- Laguna
- Alpha_Cipher1
A mix of all
I know that to go faster I have to go slower in some parts of the track (ie. brake earlier, slower apex speed to get a faster exit, etc.) but I'm allergic to seeing that red arrow no matter what!
And when I make a genuine mistake and I go into the reds (or even just lose time) the pressure I get with the timer on as opposed to without it is basically double 
and finally yeah it distracts me because it attracts my attention (especially during mid-turn where I'm ultra-conscious if I'm taking that corner too slow)The irony is that I also consider myself a hotlapper
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- SvennoJ
- SvenZ
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Yes, I was not serious limiting quali time to 10 minutes, and for FIA races you can practice as long as you like. (Does it take the practice lap time into account? I haven't done a FIA race since last year, too long qualifying
)1 race missed!!! Also means less people racing albeit by a small percentage, time is finite unfortunately. Yet true, it might deter the jokers from entering races at all. The one quick go lets see how much damage I can do kind.
True, I was just rudely reminded of those facts after entering the first GR.3 N24 race in front of 11 A/S and mostly B/S drivers that didn't qualify. Yet I rather have them flying off the track to easily pass again, then the stick to racing line mentality and run you off if your in the way. Qualifying doesn't make those people better racers, it seems to give them the idea that they have a right to bump you off or dirty block because they had a faster quali time...
By now people should know the tracks or perhaps completing the track experience should be mandatory before unlocking each track. That won't fix impatience either. A better SR system that separates the impatient from the clean drivers would be better.
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- Phoenix Az.
- HuddyBob
Cheers to that!
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- Crete
Indeed that's a plague in Sport mode. If you are indeed faster than the car if front of you , you will eventually overtake him. But that doesn't mean you should do stupid moves (like going from the outside at turn 9 and 10 at Bathurst , DON'T do that). There will be always the slipstream , outbreaking and other techniques to overtake without killing your opponent.
Even if the guy in front of you is somehow impossible to pass , strategy is the key , especially if it's a One-make race. With all these options just for passing your opponent , things like bump-and-run should be unacceptable.
Even if the guy in front of you is somehow impossible to pass , strategy is the key , especially if it's a One-make race. With all these options just for passing your opponent , things like bump-and-run should be unacceptable.
- 6,753
- Fürstentum Lippe
- GTP_Nuschel
It will be abused to death if you could give others a negative rating. Make it only positive and I‘d really like to see it implemented 👍
Try putting down 5 consistent laps on the Nordschleife
- 6,764
- Ontario
- SvennoJ
- SvenZ
Try putting down 5 consistent laps on the Nordschleife
That's easy! Though I can't do it on Miyabi for the life of me.
Let's bring back the 24h endurance on nurb 24 as a requirement to unlock it in sport mode! To make it easy you're allowed 4 saves in between, very generous. Yet if you do less than 150 laps you have to start over. Actually the amount of laps will determine which DR level you're allowed to enter in on Nurb
It's time to make this game hard core.
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- HuddyBob
Try putting down 5 consistent laps on the Nordschleife
, that's actually my best track... it's not uncommon for me to hot lap there for an entire day, and, ran the 24hr event (Gt4?) -without pausing the game- with a friend splitting driving/sleeping/eating duty probably... more than once, not sure how many times... maybe just twice... and have countless 4hr endurance races completed... having said that... I'd not be able to put 2 laps together on Tokyo. Hate that place and refuse to race there.
- 6,753
- Fürstentum Lippe
- GTP_Nuschel
Nordschleife is my best track, too (see daily race thread) but it‘s a tough job to be consistent and fast
- 1,046
- From the native city of Ettore Bugatti
- I-Runner
People that try to overtake in "not-possible" points/turns of the various tracks are the "natural" selection of the game , i always gain from 5 to 7 (or more) positions on the nordschleife simply let the following "pilot" to overtake me, at the next turn they are out (i.e. on the right before the Aremberg..)
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