GT4 PhotoMode Competition: Week 3 Poll

[440 CHARGER]

Seems I've caused an argument over weather we should vote for ourselves.

Nah, I would'nt call it an argument. Just a discussion with varying opinions.

And it isn't like my pic (the Ralli Art Evo) is not worth the vote, because it is in 4th place at the moment with 7 votes, so me voting for myslef is relevant! It is a contender! (Well, sorta, but probably not going to win, as it only has half the amount of the midget.) I think that most of the photos I will submit in the future will be in contention also. I won't ever upload a crappy photo!

And slick, I too would like to see who voted for who. Even from the first contest, see who voted for who. Just curious. Is it possible for the names of voters to show up next to the picture they voted for in the polls?

But if there was a way you could prevent people voting for themselves, that would be the best!

 

[dori-san]

Voting for yourself does seem a bit because if everyone voted for themselves then it would have given you no advantage

No. I actually feel that it levels the playing field more. Because if EVERYBODY who entered voted for themselves, then the decision would depend on other members of the forum who didn't compete. Everyone, wether they admit it or not, is biased towards their own photo. We all want to win! So I say it's better to have the votes of non-competitors because they're not biased. They come in and pick the photo that they like, not because they want that specific one to win because it is theirs, but because they genuinely believe that it's the best of the group.

I think it would be a great idea to make it where competitors were not allowed to vote period, but I know there's no way that the forums can be configured for that. Only other thing I could think of is make it a rule that EVERYONE must vote for themselves. That way everybody gets at least one vote, and it's kinda like the first vote is null creating the dependancy on OTHER members votes.

I do, however, still stick to my guns on the fact that the winner who chooses the theme should also select THEIR top 20 to allow for the polls. Because obviously if they WON, they must have some pretty decent taste in what makes a good photograph. This would weed out all the (not bad pictures, persay, but) lesser class photographs. Not to mention it would provide a sort of standard for the entries and those who are not selected in the top 20 would conentrate more on honing their photograpy skills to make it into the top 20, thus improving the skill of everyone slightly...making for better competitions later on. And the competition would be more fierce with less competitors. Slick says that the winner might not have the time to sift through and pick out 20... I know that I'd be more than willing to pick out my top 20 for week 4. I don't know about anybody else. But perhaps if that person doesn't have time then Slick could do it for that week or maybe the week would just go unfiltered... meaning that if the previous winner were too busy and didn't pick out his 20 and submit it to Slick on time, then the poll would just go up with all the entries..

Anywho, I don't think voting for yourself should be that big of a problem.

 

[sUn]

Dang, so many entries to choose from!

 

[440 CHARGER]

I think it would be a great idea to make it where competitors were not allowed to vote period, but I know there's no way that the forums can be configured for that. Only other thing I could think of is make it a rule that EVERYONE must vote for themselves. That way everybody gets at least one vote, and it's kinda like the first vote is null creating the dependancy on OTHER members votes.

There's a thought!👍

 

[Vulcan]

There's a thought!👍

Really... Why should it matter if someone votes thiew own entry? I think you should be able to vote for whatever you think is the best.

 

[wrx sti0402]

I had to represent...I voted for the WRC Rally Car pic #2...👍

wrxsti0402

 

[G A R A]

I voted for my self. While there are others I came very close to voting for, I voted for mine because I love how the scenery is as important as the car in the photo. I'll stop talking before I start to sound like some posh git in some art museum who is getting angry because the average public just simply doesn't GET the photo. Look at it, I SAID LOOK AT IT! NO NOT WITH YOUR EYES!! Look past the photo, imagen being there, FEEL the cold on your skin, driving the Saleen up icy mountain roads. The sun glaring off the wet road.

 

[CrackHoor]

I have made the polls public, so that others can see who voted for who. It should help keep things more honest in the future.

Thanks Slick, that's a good idea. Is there any chance of having the submitter's name beside each picture in the poll?

Look at it, I SAID LOOK AT IT! NO NOT WITH YOUR EYES!!

 

[Slick6]

Thanks Slick, that's a good idea. Is there any chance of having the submitter's name beside each picture in the poll?

I did it on the first poll, but everyone said that people would just vote for their favorite person rather than the actual picture. If I enforce the do not vote for yourself rule, I'll be only interested in the top voted pictures to see if the person voted for themselves.

 

[Hãt©h]

I voted for my pic...

I will have to say, however, that in the future maybe those who enter should not be able to cast a vote. (but we will have to bump the thread on the other part of the board)

And as far as multiple accounts go...I can hear the complaint now "Uh that was my brothers account on the same IP he is a member too. And my mom voted for mine after she created hers uhhhhh uhhhh the dog, fish and cat also..

The list goes on. So maybe a modified rule on voting

1. If you enter a photo in the competition you will not be able to vote in the poll.
(voting for your own photo will get you banned from competing)
2. One IP one vote.
(Does not matter how many house plants you have accounts for at home)


PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EXPAND THIS LIST
(and we wonder why it says "NOT A TOY" on a plastic bag)

 

[Slick6]

I think my idea is simple:
You vote for your entry and your entry is in the lead at the end of the week, the winner will be the next person that didn't vote for themself.

 

[440 CHARGER]

I think my idea is simple:
You vote for your entry and your entry is in the lead at the end of the week, the winner will be the next person that didn't vote for themself.

In my opinion, the only way that rule can have any relevancy is if the winner only wins by one vote! Know what I'm saying?

 

[Slick6]

Let me rephrase it, the person with the most votes that didn't vote for themselves wins.

 

[tazzer]

Let me rephrase it, the person with the most votes that didn't vote for themselves wins.

First off Slick I would like to say thanks for all the work that you put into doing all work on the competition board and all.

However that pretty much means that the top pictures will not win, if its franz, 440, or Tsleng.

Who really cares if you vote for yourself, this is supposed to be fun, and by changing the rules halfway in a vote cycle is rather American Idolish.

Plus I think 440's last statement is correct, if it comes down to a tie then throw out a vote if they voted for thiers. If that doesn't work then have a 1 day face-off between the tied pictures.

Anywho I am her just to have fun

 

[Slick6]

It's not going into effect now, it would be put in place when I post the Week 4 poll. The true winner shouldn't have to vote for theirs to win.

 

[440 CHARGER]

Let me rephrase it, the person with the most votes that didn't vote for themselves wins.

Let me rephrase what I said: If the winner wins by a landslide, but they voted for themselves, they should not be disqualified! Their one vote they received from themselves is completely irrelevant, know what I mean. Now if it comes down to the winner winning by one vote or two votes (NOT THREE!) and they voted for themselves, than the runner up wins. But if the winner wins by more than two votes, than they are still the winner! That makes sense! The methods you are presenting are good, they just need to be reworked so they are relevant!

Now when I say that you should not be disqualified if you win by three or more votes, that is because the difference in the number of votes between the top two photos is only effected by their own participants votes, and three is too many votes to make a difference. Like one voting for the other... A two vote swing I should say, understand?

 

[Slick6]

I guess if someone votes for themselves, it could just not count winning or losing. It would be a wasted vote. That's nice and simple.

 

[440 CHARGER]

I guess if someone votes for themselves, it could just not count winning or losing. It would be a wasted vote. That's nice and simple.

There ya go! 👍 PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!!

 

[Hãt©h]

I say "agreed then"

 

[franz]

okay that sounds fair ... btw my vote was done by my girlfriend
she chose my pic ... but who the hell would believe me right?
anyway .... I agree we shouldn't vote ourselves
if you think your entry is the best, how about vote for the second best
so your vote will not be wasted and meaningless

 

[ELgatu]

whe have a winer

 

[dori-san]

THIS IS REDICULOUS!

Just freaking make the polls private again and let a vote be a vote! Just like was said before, if Bush was allowed to vote for himself for presidency then why can't we? Besides, those votes aren't made public so why should ours be? I don't see the local news come on the day after elections and say "Peter Parker voted for Kerry, Jon Arbuckle voted for Kerry, Kevin Mitnick voted for Bush, etc..." All this would do (since those 3 are friends) is cause a big argument as to why Kevin didn't vote for Kerry like his friends did. Votes should be private, end of story.

Seriously now, if a person wins by one vote because they voted for themselves and the other person that lost by just one vote didn't vote for themself... that's their g*d damn problem. I say everyone should vote for themselves anyway and that way we wouldn't have to go through all this BS.

OR, if the polls were reduced to a top 20; some people couldn't vote for themselves and would have to vote for others! 💡

 

[superbad]

I thought this was supposed to be a bit of fun! Personally, I don't see the point of voting for yourself - but couldn't care less if other people do it. I'd like to know how you can tell who has voted for who, (I've only entered week 4 so far, so not sure how it works yet). I hope the minor faults and misunderstandings get ironed out soon and I look forward to some challenging themes. 👍

Edit: It's ok, I've sussed the who voted for who thing out now

 

[G A R A]

Linear logic: I will vote for the photo I think is the best. I think my photo is the best one. I shall vote for my photo.

Voting for the photo you think is second best is wrong, and underminds the entire competition.

 

[dori-san]

word.

 

[MCX]

Just like was said before, if Bush was allowed to vote for himself for presidency then why can't we?

Well, the main difference is that a presidential election has millions of voters, so the impact that Bush could make on himself is inconceivably small. It's basically a discussion item for the press.

However, if youre talking about a few hundred votes split between a lot of entries, the single vote carries more impact.

If the winning entry got say 10 votes, then a single vote would count for 10 percent of the outcome!

But anyway, why am I commenting? It's been settled. Good luck to all next week!

 

[MCX]

Linear logic: I will vote for the photo I think is the best. I think my photo is the best one. I shall vote for my photo.

Voting for the photo you think is second best is wrong, and underminds the entire competition.

So don't vote! No one is asking you to swing the votes away by 2 (losing yours and giving someone else a vote)... If your pic is the best, then it will win without your vote. If it loses by one vote, then guess what? It wasn't the favorite!

I think that it's a level playing field with the vote not counting.

 

[MCX]

OMG big thanks to the 4 people who voted for my pic! Last week it was 1! (thanks again, )

 

[G A R A]

...If it loses by one vote, then guess what? It wasn't the favorite!...

Are you saying you only vote for the one that's winning?

 

[440 CHARGER]

Are you saying you only vote for the one that's winning?

OH, FRICKIN DROP IT ALREADY!