GT5 Braking method problem

[magic7]

I noticed most players to get the most of their laptimes up to the best is just braking half of the pressure or doing it twice before getting on 50m onboard, i really don't get it. i know it is effective in gt5 than applying full pressure. but really? you do that in real life, you either spin or get a massive understeer specially if you hit the wrong apex. im so against it! so im sticking to my nature instinct and what my mentor always to do, apply full pressure.

 

[alexthecamel]

Hi,

In the UK, when we are taught (certainly myself anyway) to drive, we are told the only time to apply full pressure to the brake would be in an emergency stop situation.

I use the DFGT wheel in GT5, and it's very rare I ever apply full brake on purpose, even for slow corners tend to just tail speed of with less than full application, to be honest, I would prefer more resistance on the pedal so I could apply even more granular control.

**Edit** might have missunderstood, are you talking about a racing mentor?

 

[magic7]

I mean in racing situation. Not in Ordinary driving routine in public.

 

[Jay]

You do realise when you are pushing full pressure you're actually overkilling and the ABS system (in game and real life) is taking over, even in real life with ABS it's best not to stand on the brake as hard as you can, you wont stop any faster. GT5 is much the same, infact if you brake only a little more than required (to the point 4 or atleast 2 tyres would lock if ABS is off) you can reduce braking quicker and easier to get some steering back and modulate between braking and steering better.

Turn ABS off and check the tyre limits compared to your braking %, if you brake harder with ABS on then the ABS is taking over and sorting it out.

 

[Buubar]

It can vary, sometimes you can get more traction from not just jumping on the brakes at every corner, especially if your not using ABS. Only doing half the pressure, or braking twice is quite normal in the "real world" It all depends on the car in question and how it performs under braking.

 

[Y8ODY]

You do realise when you are pushing full pressure you're actually overkilling and the ABS system (in game and real life) is taking over, even in real life with ABS it's best not to stand on the brake as hard as you can, you wont stop any faster. GT5 is much the same, infact if you brake only a little more than required (to the point 4 or atleast 2 tyres would lock if ABS is off) you can reduce braking quicker and easier to get some steering back and modulate between braking and steering better.

Turn ABS off and check the tyre limits compared to your braking %, if you brake harder with ABS on then the ABS is taking over and sorting it out.

You're right that you shouldn't jump on the brakes suddenly as it could trigger the ABS...but if you're smooth then any decent road car can take way more pressure than most people apply without triggering ABS, especially on a smooth surface. I've driven Corvettes and AMG Mercs on track with full-on braking and never triggered ABS (of course, on a bumpy road even moderate braking can trigger ABS).

 

[Jay]

Yes exactly.

 

[Sequential]

The technique described above is called threshold braking - it's exactly what it says - you push the pedal to the threshold of braking, just before the ABS cuts in (or the brakes lock up, on non ABS shod cars). There is also cadence braking, which is brake then let off, brake again and repeat (similar to a human controlled ABS system) but threshold braking is a far more effective way of stooping a car quickly. You also maintain some steering input, and therefore more control over the car.
It's easier to feel the threshold point in a non-servoed brake system on a road car, rather than a PS3 pedal set with no feedback, but it is possible to judge where the point of bite is.

 

[agomez]

It depends of the speed, type of turn and car, it doesn't matter how you brake if you take the apex at the speed you have to, even though you might apparently lose time if you brake ''early'', braking late usually makes you overcook the corner and puts more stress onto the tyres.

It's not something that it's written, it depends of multiple factors.

 

[Leicht]

IMO this is helpful especially in the rainy conditions

 

[Brainhulk]

you might just be seeing trail braking imo

 

[CoolColJ]

Hi,

In the UK, when we are taught (certainly myself anyway) to drive, we are told the only time to apply full pressure to the brake would be in an emergency stop situation.

I use the DFGT wheel in GT5, and it's very rare I ever apply full brake on purpose, even for slow corners tend to just tail speed of with less than full application, to be honest, I would prefer more resistance on the pedal so I could apply even more granular control.

**Edit** might have missunderstood, are you talking about a racing mentor?

Squash ball or half of one under the pedal arm (you can sequeeze it in the pedal arm well) does wonders for this