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SRT Viper GTS '13
123,000 credits (Has 6,800cr Sport Hards fitted)
15 paint options 8 base colours - 7 of which have a stripy option. The odd one being Stryker Red Tinted Pearl - But no British Racing Green?
In the end I went with Race Yellow Clear Coat Black Stripes.
566pp 640bhp/83 torques, FR, Normally Aspirated 8.4 litre V10 1556kg, For some reason the Engine size has been Censored. 50:50 weight distribution.
Looks... One OCD thing that annoys me are the stripes... they miss out the tab at the top of the rear window...
You can buy 3 flavours of aero kits - Chin whiskers and black aero diffuser bits and side skirts..
You can also get 3 special wings for the car beyond the usual bolt on generic stuff...
A is a simple black addition to the rear spoiler
B is a smaller carbon fibre effect addition, with a gap in the middle for better rearward visibility.
C is a large boomerang Rear wing that matches the shape of the rear much more than your standard bolt on job. Any colour you like so long as it is black.
You can also get - door mirrors with a much smaller post and they come in three colour options All Glossy Black, Your Car colour with a Black bracket or a Matt Black with a bracket that matches the colour of your car. If you drive in car you will actually see the effect this has.
Gearbox - 6 gears - but 5th and 6th are "Offensive Linemen" sized brutes seemingly designed for low rev cruising more than high rev racing.
4th tops out at 136mph at 6400 RPM.
6th tops out at 247mph in a draft before you hit the rev limiter (7000RPM). The car got to 220mph on its own quite easily.
Track - Route X - Like the Wind. - 4m58
Car had a top speed unaided of about 230 - if you sneak a draft you can coax it to 246, if you are subtle on the throttle near the ultimate rev limiter you can rub up against 250. On the banking the car is a bit wriggly. but you could hold a low line without that much buttock clenching. Soft but manageable suspension.
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Nissan GT-R NISMO '14
154,440 credits (Has 9,750cr Sport Softs fitted)
3.8 litre Turbocharged straight 6
574pp - 591bhp - 66.5 torques - 1720kg - 4WD 52:48 weight distribution
5 options - All have the bolt on Rear Wing and all have a red detail effect - Colours? White Pearl / Matt Grey / Silver / Black or Red... No British Racing Green here either!
External Parts - You have the option to remove the rear wing. But no other cosmetic effects other than an even larger bolt on rear wing...
If you paint the car a custom colour it retains the red detailing at the bottom of the car and the intake area, as well as the Black skirts and front bumper.
This car comes with... Sports Soft tyres... I swapped to Sports Hard to even things out... A two grade tyre advantage isn't cricket. And we are testing the cars not the Yokohama grade rubber.
Gearbox - 6 speed but the default box looks much more normal... probably not long enough.
Free Aerodynamic downforce- the GT-R has 120/200 aero out of the box.
7600rpm is the rev limiter and in 6th you are pushing 206mph. The Red line is 7000. And the car just about gets up to its top speed without needing a slipstream.
Track - Route X - Like the Wind. -5m42
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Maybe a run at the 20 miles at Willow Springs - Maybe not ... as this isn't a "Normal Car" - But the Viper GTS '13 is...
So that is 2-0 to the Viper on the track. Demolition job really.
Looks - The Viper isn't as good as it used to be the front wheel looks tiny, the lines look a bit "plastic surgery" generic compared to the old bold brassy look from the 90's but it is still much better than the GT-R and its slab slided Aerobrick. If I gave the Viper a 85% on looks the GT-R would be very middling.
Track performance.
This didn't go well for the Nissan - blown away in terms of out and out pace and than unable to compete in a second race. Having "cheaty" tyres and a couple of spoons of free aerodynamic downforce didn't make me any more sympathtic to it.
До скорого!
(I wrote this twaddle today after I actually drove the cars at a track with proper corners...)
After the Destruction of the Nissan GT-R at Route X and then Willow Springs I'll take the third test to the serendipitous sunshine of Switzerland. The spikey scenery of the swiss alps watch on as I circle the car that vanquished the pride of Nismo in the two previous events. Yellow with Black stripes, this is a classic feral warning from the animal kingdom - Danger.
The venomous bite comes from an 8.4 litre V10 that has no need for rinky dink superchargers or turbochargers - this is raw meaty power, it doesn't scream like some pestering wasp. This is a predator. The looks are stylish, swooping curves. Not as instantly pleasing as previous models but this third incarnation seeps into you, coils around you like a constrictor, crushes your initial reservations, leaving you breathless.
Sure it looks nice but how is it to drive? The first impression is the power. Those huge rear tyres struggle to put all the power onto the asphalt and the back end wriggles like a Sidewinder - but unlike a heat seeking missile, this car is a wild beast that needs taming with wheelmanship and talent. This is no boosted up Datsun, this is a primal animal harnessed into a chassis and mated to a tuned V10 engine. Able to blast its way up to close to 250mph before the gearbox limits your progress to the sound barrier.
Okay. So it is fast in a straight line ... but this is an american car, What is it like in the twisties? The car has soft suspension rolling before it bites into the tarmac, and it bites hard. The grip level is like the front tyres have fangs - over crests the back end will skip out like a rattlesnake thrashing its tail. A warning as the car has Oversteer. Novice drivers should take heed and step away from the Viper, step away carefully. If you have some degree of talent you can play with the snake and charm it with a dab of oppo and some naturally aspirated music on the throttle.
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The brused and beaten Nissan. Crushed at Route X. Then humiliated at Willow Springs. Can it reclaim the mistique that was the R32 Godzilla, or will it be on the Nephew, a Godzucci trading on the name hard earned by the R32?
The GTS has thrown down the gauntlet and this time the Nissan picks up the challenge.
The track is hard, full of ups and downs, blind cresting corners that reward the brave and punish the foolish. The Slab silded GT-R has the looks of a wheeliebin but will it finaly take out the trash and earn a win? Gearchanges are as punchy as Mike Tyson in the late 80's. Loads of grip, the all wheel drive isn't a recipe for chronic understeer. Infact with the computer girlyman aids turned off you can chuck the car about like a lunatic and get away with alot. The turbos spool is subtle and that mechanical straight six sound is reassuring. The car feels fast and you are able to place the car without the usual issues you get with an all-wheel drive car. Its brakes are as solid and dependable as a wookie co-pilot. Turn in is as neat and tidy as an autistic childs lunchbox. Balanced like a ballerina on a high beam - it made corners seem effortless and graceful. Even if you get out of shape the car will save you and you will dismount form a corner with a toothy smile and both arms aloft to the adulation of the crowd and the lamentation of the women. But its lack of "meat" in the power department left it struggling in the wake of the barbaric GTS.
Coming in hot to an especially nuggety left hander, I palm hard on the wheel and as we crest the bend I feel the playful tail step wide. I simply catch it with a dab of oppo and the yokohama tyres scrabbling for grip like a wild eyed kitten up your curtains.
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... The times... The GTS beat the GT-R by just over a Second (No driver aids) - To be fair The GT-R felt very easy to chuck about whereas I had to be a bit, okay, alot more careful with the GTS over the crests and I probably lost alot more time with the Viper than I did with the GT-R. If I had to repeat the laps I can see the GTS extending the gap in times as I was able to actually put down the power and balance the car better over crests.
Three times I've posted here, one was my gut feelings, one was a test last night that just grumped me out how many advantages the Nissan has yet squanders and today when I gave them a both a fair run. And if you are still reading this give them a drive, they are really quite good.
123,000 credits (Has 6,800cr Sport Hards fitted)
15 paint options 8 base colours - 7 of which have a stripy option. The odd one being Stryker Red Tinted Pearl - But no British Racing Green?
In the end I went with Race Yellow Clear Coat Black Stripes.
566pp 640bhp/83 torques, FR, Normally Aspirated 8.4 litre V10 1556kg, For some reason the Engine size has been Censored. 50:50 weight distribution.
Looks... One OCD thing that annoys me are the stripes... they miss out the tab at the top of the rear window...
You can buy 3 flavours of aero kits - Chin whiskers and black aero diffuser bits and side skirts..
You can also get 3 special wings for the car beyond the usual bolt on generic stuff...
A is a simple black addition to the rear spoiler
B is a smaller carbon fibre effect addition, with a gap in the middle for better rearward visibility.
C is a large boomerang Rear wing that matches the shape of the rear much more than your standard bolt on job. Any colour you like so long as it is black.
You can also get - door mirrors with a much smaller post and they come in three colour options All Glossy Black, Your Car colour with a Black bracket or a Matt Black with a bracket that matches the colour of your car. If you drive in car you will actually see the effect this has.
Gearbox - 6 gears - but 5th and 6th are "Offensive Linemen" sized brutes seemingly designed for low rev cruising more than high rev racing.
4th tops out at 136mph at 6400 RPM.
6th tops out at 247mph in a draft before you hit the rev limiter (7000RPM). The car got to 220mph on its own quite easily.
Track - Route X - Like the Wind. - 4m58
Car had a top speed unaided of about 230 - if you sneak a draft you can coax it to 246, if you are subtle on the throttle near the ultimate rev limiter you can rub up against 250. On the banking the car is a bit wriggly. but you could hold a low line without that much buttock clenching. Soft but manageable suspension.
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Nissan GT-R NISMO '14
154,440 credits (Has 9,750cr Sport Softs fitted)
3.8 litre Turbocharged straight 6
574pp - 591bhp - 66.5 torques - 1720kg - 4WD 52:48 weight distribution
5 options - All have the bolt on Rear Wing and all have a red detail effect - Colours? White Pearl / Matt Grey / Silver / Black or Red... No British Racing Green here either!
External Parts - You have the option to remove the rear wing. But no other cosmetic effects other than an even larger bolt on rear wing...
If you paint the car a custom colour it retains the red detailing at the bottom of the car and the intake area, as well as the Black skirts and front bumper.
This car comes with... Sports Soft tyres... I swapped to Sports Hard to even things out... A two grade tyre advantage isn't cricket. And we are testing the cars not the Yokohama grade rubber.
Gearbox - 6 speed but the default box looks much more normal... probably not long enough.
Free Aerodynamic downforce- the GT-R has 120/200 aero out of the box.
7600rpm is the rev limiter and in 6th you are pushing 206mph. The Red line is 7000. And the car just about gets up to its top speed without needing a slipstream.
Track - Route X - Like the Wind. -5m42
=========
Maybe a run at the 20 miles at Willow Springs - Maybe not ... as this isn't a "Normal Car" - But the Viper GTS '13 is...
So that is 2-0 to the Viper on the track. Demolition job really.
Looks - The Viper isn't as good as it used to be the front wheel looks tiny, the lines look a bit "plastic surgery" generic compared to the old bold brassy look from the 90's but it is still much better than the GT-R and its slab slided Aerobrick. If I gave the Viper a 85% on looks the GT-R would be very middling.
Track performance.
This didn't go well for the Nissan - blown away in terms of out and out pace and than unable to compete in a second race. Having "cheaty" tyres and a couple of spoons of free aerodynamic downforce didn't make me any more sympathtic to it.
До скорого!
(I wrote this twaddle today after I actually drove the cars at a track with proper corners...)
After the Destruction of the Nissan GT-R at Route X and then Willow Springs I'll take the third test to the serendipitous sunshine of Switzerland. The spikey scenery of the swiss alps watch on as I circle the car that vanquished the pride of Nismo in the two previous events. Yellow with Black stripes, this is a classic feral warning from the animal kingdom - Danger.
The venomous bite comes from an 8.4 litre V10 that has no need for rinky dink superchargers or turbochargers - this is raw meaty power, it doesn't scream like some pestering wasp. This is a predator. The looks are stylish, swooping curves. Not as instantly pleasing as previous models but this third incarnation seeps into you, coils around you like a constrictor, crushes your initial reservations, leaving you breathless.
Sure it looks nice but how is it to drive? The first impression is the power. Those huge rear tyres struggle to put all the power onto the asphalt and the back end wriggles like a Sidewinder - but unlike a heat seeking missile, this car is a wild beast that needs taming with wheelmanship and talent. This is no boosted up Datsun, this is a primal animal harnessed into a chassis and mated to a tuned V10 engine. Able to blast its way up to close to 250mph before the gearbox limits your progress to the sound barrier.
Okay. So it is fast in a straight line ... but this is an american car, What is it like in the twisties? The car has soft suspension rolling before it bites into the tarmac, and it bites hard. The grip level is like the front tyres have fangs - over crests the back end will skip out like a rattlesnake thrashing its tail. A warning as the car has Oversteer. Novice drivers should take heed and step away from the Viper, step away carefully. If you have some degree of talent you can play with the snake and charm it with a dab of oppo and some naturally aspirated music on the throttle.
---------------
The brused and beaten Nissan. Crushed at Route X. Then humiliated at Willow Springs. Can it reclaim the mistique that was the R32 Godzilla, or will it be on the Nephew, a Godzucci trading on the name hard earned by the R32?
The GTS has thrown down the gauntlet and this time the Nissan picks up the challenge.
The track is hard, full of ups and downs, blind cresting corners that reward the brave and punish the foolish. The Slab silded GT-R has the looks of a wheeliebin but will it finaly take out the trash and earn a win? Gearchanges are as punchy as Mike Tyson in the late 80's. Loads of grip, the all wheel drive isn't a recipe for chronic understeer. Infact with the computer girlyman aids turned off you can chuck the car about like a lunatic and get away with alot. The turbos spool is subtle and that mechanical straight six sound is reassuring. The car feels fast and you are able to place the car without the usual issues you get with an all-wheel drive car. Its brakes are as solid and dependable as a wookie co-pilot. Turn in is as neat and tidy as an autistic childs lunchbox. Balanced like a ballerina on a high beam - it made corners seem effortless and graceful. Even if you get out of shape the car will save you and you will dismount form a corner with a toothy smile and both arms aloft to the adulation of the crowd and the lamentation of the women. But its lack of "meat" in the power department left it struggling in the wake of the barbaric GTS.
Coming in hot to an especially nuggety left hander, I palm hard on the wheel and as we crest the bend I feel the playful tail step wide. I simply catch it with a dab of oppo and the yokohama tyres scrabbling for grip like a wild eyed kitten up your curtains.
--
... The times... The GTS beat the GT-R by just over a Second (No driver aids) - To be fair The GT-R felt very easy to chuck about whereas I had to be a bit, okay, alot more careful with the GTS over the crests and I probably lost alot more time with the Viper than I did with the GT-R. If I had to repeat the laps I can see the GTS extending the gap in times as I was able to actually put down the power and balance the car better over crests.
Three times I've posted here, one was my gut feelings, one was a test last night that just grumped me out how many advantages the Nissan has yet squanders and today when I gave them a both a fair run. And if you are still reading this give them a drive, they are really quite good.
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. It doesn't need anything added to it. It wouldn't wear the badge if it were anything else. I'd go a step further and say if Honda took the back seat out, I'd stll pick it over the 86. If you had a once in a lifetime offer, to own either of these two cars, a genuine Type R is what I would grab.
