GT6 Nürburgring Lap time board -- CLOSED - Look for new thread to be started

[Stotty]

And recovery increase with age

:ron:

Unfortunately true... I still feel like 🤬

R8 was quite a surprise... basically no understeer and it's ridiculously fast in the corners. I bet this thing would be very, very fast with some extra hp.

I actually like the F430, it doesn't understeer too much and you can even drift with it. The 458 Italia on the other hand still seems to understeer a lot in slow corners and it's pretty hard to make it oversteer at all .

The GT-R has ~ 1.4 front and 1.3 rear camber, that certainly doesn't help

I haven't driven it in GT6 yet, but the R8 would go well under 7 mins in GT5 on SH tyres with some power upgrades. It had awesome handling 👍

Yeah... the 458 has some entry understeer... but there's as much oversteer on the exits as you want. It's a really nice car to drive on comfort softs but you have to be on top of the throttle everywhere - VERY intense

And that would explain partially why the GT-R isn't that quick - though it's more on the straights I think it doesn't reflect it's power.
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A few more from me... I doubt most of these will be anywhere near reaching the car's potential given how crap I feel and how rubbish my reactions are today

Production
07:41.917 - BMW Z4 Coupe '08 (GTP_Stotty) NEW
07:38.424 - Mazda RX7 Spirit Type A (FD) '02 (GTP_Stotty) NEW
06:56.426 - McLaren MP4-12C '10 (GTP_Stotty) NEW
07:50.103 - BMW Concept 1 Series tii '07 (GTP_Stotty) BEATEN

Race
06:17.235 - McLaren F1 GTR - BMW (Kokusai Kaihatsu UK Racing) '95 (GTP_Stotty) NEW

Z4 is pretty nondescript to drive.

The premium RX7 feels exactly like the Bathurst (just with a touch more power) - the handling is sublime for a FR, with zero understeer.

Thought I'd see if I could pinch my 1 series time back from Dennis and discovered I hadn't done an oil change the last time I ran it... chipped another second off. There's still a bit more to come on that one, but the car isn't really very nice to drive.

MP4-12C is very, very fast, and reasonably easy to drive. It has amazing traction for it's power, but consequentially, it does suffer from quite a bit of understeer in the high speed corners. Just a matter of managing entry speed then you can really hammer the throttle on the exits in 3rd gear or higher... I think there's a pile of time left in this one and it might break in to the 6.4X's in the hands of a proper 'Ring expert.

The F1 GTR race car isn't the sort of thing I drive very often, but I thought I'd try something different. It took a good while to adjust to the extra speed and grip, but it's a very easy car to drive once you do adjust. LOADS of grip, incredible brakes, lovely and stable... more time left in this one.

 

[Ali]

Yeah... the 458 has some entry understeer... but there's as much oversteer on the exits as you want. It's a really nice car to drive on comfort softs but you have to be on top of the throttle everywhere - VERY intense

And that would explain partially why the GT-R isn't that quick - though it's more on the straights I think it doesn't reflect it's power.
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Production

06:56.426 - McLaren MP4-12C '10 (GTP_Stotty) NEW

Yeah I'm sure it's much better on comfort softs, I've only driven it on SH though. I think CS are closer to GT5s SH?


I finished my McLaren lap less than 10mins ago, that thing is a damn rocket

 

[Stotty]

Yeah I'm sure it's much better on comfort softs, I've only driven it on SH though. I think CS are closer to GT5s SH?

I finished my McLaren lap less than 10mins ago, that thing is a damn rocket

I'm not sure if there's much difference in outright grip between GT5 and 6 on the same tyres - Personally, I think the extra speed comes from there just being a different balance to the cars. GT6 has much less understeer on all the cars and I think this is where the lap time improvements come from 👍

Come on... how fast did you go in the McLaren?

And here's one for you to try... I've had a couple of attempts to get the Huyara round in under 7. I know it will do it comfortably, but it's bloody difficult to drive. You're a dab hand on the 'Ring, why not give try it and show me how quickly it can go

 

[Ali]

I'm not sure if there's much difference in outright grip between GT5 and 6 on the same tyres - Personally, I think the extra speed comes from there just being a different balance to the cars. GT6 has much less understeer on all the cars and I think this is where the lap time improvements come from 👍

Come on... how fast did you go in the McLaren?

And here's one for you to try... I've had a couple of attempts to get the Huyara round in under 7. I know it will do it comfortably, but it's bloody difficult to drive. You're a dab hand on the 'Ring, why not give try it and show me how quickly it can go

I don't know exactly what has changed... the cars just feel like they have more grip in GT6. I had much lower cornering speeds and had to be more careful with the throttle in GT5

McLaren lap was 6:53.xxx

Ehh... I have tried the Hyuiaera, but I never managed to get past Adenauer Forst if I remember correctly. Ran out of patience with that car

 

[Stotty]

I don't know exactly what has changed... the cars just feel like they have more grip in GT6. I had much lower cornering speeds and had to be more careful with the throttle in GT5

McLaren lap was 6:53.xxx

Ehh... I have tried the Hyuiaera, but I never managed to get past Adenauer Forst if I remember correctly. Ran out of patience with that car

I think of it like this... less understeer = less steering lock = more throttle/less oversteer. But whatever the reason, I prefer the physics in GT6 for the most part - except for the silly behaviour of some MR's!

Post the MP4 time... it will give me something to chase 👍

I've got a 7'02 in the Huayra, but so many mistakes in the lap. The combination of sheer speed, understeer, and instant traction loss if you catch a bump in anything below 5th gear makes it very tricky to complete a lap consistently close to its limit. It's definitely a test of patience

 

[Ali]

I think of it like this... less understeer = less steering lock = more throttle/less oversteer. But whatever the reason, I prefer the physics in GT6 for the most part - except for the silly behaviour of some MR's!

Post the MP4 time... it will give me something to chase 👍

I've got a 7'02 in the Huayra, but so many mistakes in the lap. The combination of sheer speed, understeer, and instant traction loss if you catch a bump in anything below 5th gear makes it very tricky to complete a lap consistently close to its limit. It's definitely a test of patience

Production:

06:48.478 - McLaren MP4-12C '10 (Sutuki) BEATEN



Tried this one again, this time with a wheel. Improved much more than what I expected . The car can go quicker, would just need to get used to it first, can't really "trust" it yet . Replay file of the McLaren lap in the .zip, in case you or anyone else wants to watch it.

Why haven't you posted that Huayra time yet? It's ridiculously hard car to drive fast, a full lap on the Ring is an achievement in my opinion

 

[mike_gt3]

Wow The MP4 12C is crazy fast in GT6!

well done guys, some very good lap time! 👍

 

[Johnnypenso]

A lap in the 450PP SH category:

07:36.384 - Toyota FT-86 Concept '09 (Johnnypenso) NEW

Peach of a car, a monkey could run a 7:45 in it . Tune is the same tune I am creating for online and will be up in my garage in the near future

 

[Stotty]

Production:

06:48.478 - McLaren MP4-12C '10 (Sutuki) BEATEN

Tried this one again, this time with a wheel. Improved much more than what I expected . The car can go quicker, would just need to get used to it first, can't really "trust" it yet . Replay file of the McLaren lap in the .zip, in case you or anyone else wants to watch it.

Why haven't you posted that Huayra time yet? It's ridiculously hard car to drive fast, a full lap on the Ring is an achievement in my opinion

6'48 Can't wait to watch the replay 👍

When you say 'tried this one again with a wheel'... do you mean you ran the 6.53 was with a DS3? If so

All the lap times I've posted in here (other than the 1 Series) are the 1st clean lap I've run in the respective car - I typically pick a car, change the oil, check there are no mods on it, then run an outlap and one timed lap (excepting that some cars might need some re-starts - some need a lot of re-starts ). This gives me a chance to try different cars and gets times on the board that we can chase down in the years up to GT7 being released.

There are a number of cars I've tried briefly, but then given up on as I simply don't like how they drive.

I haven't posted the Huayra time as the lap is so messy. I know it's difficult to drive, but given it's power and weight, it should be capable of running well under 7 mins. I've run a number of 7.0X, all with mistakes in different places, so just need to string something free of major mistakes... problem is it takes me about an hour just to get in synch with the car... and a lot of the time I haven't got the patience to keep re-starting. Soon as I run sub 7 I'll post.

I also put some time in to the F40, but that car is a 🤬, and wants to spin off the power... haven't managed to complete a lap in it yet, though I have crashed a few times at the end of the final straight when on for a reasonable time

 

[Ali]

When you say 'tried this one again with a wheel'... do you mean you ran the 6.53 was with a DS3? If so

Yes, the 6:53 was with a DS3. I used to be pretty much equally quick with DS3/G27 in GT5 so I thought it would still be like that, but apparently not


"I have crashed a few times at the end of the final straight when on for a reasonable time"
I had the same problem with the C6/C7 Vettes . Usually I just brake early and don't take any risks there.

 

[Stotty]

Yes, the 6:53 was with a DS3. I used to be pretty much equally quick with DS3/G27 in GT5 so I thought it would still be like that, but apparently not

"I have crashed a few times at the end of the final straight when on for a reasonable time"

I had the same problem with the C6/C7 Vettes

. Usually I just brake early and don't take any risks there.

Heh, I'm feeling somewhat humbled that you’re quicker with the DS3 than I am with my wheel

Now I really can’t wait to see your replay 👍

I generally do the same braking for the final fast bends, but the F40 is very unstable off the power and hates the kerbs, so you have to almost come to a stop

EDIT:
Watched the replay... very, very nice lap 👍 There's not a lot more to come - just a couple of missed apex's and a couple of places the understeer catches you out and spoils the perfect line.... but tricky to run a 'perfect' lap in a car that fast.

Other than 2 obvious major mistakes I made on my lap I can see where I'm slowly bleeding time to you... I'm changing up too late, and I'm just not committing enough in the really fast corners.

8 seconds is an age, but at least I can see how to get maybe 6 of them... the other 2 are just LOFT

 

[Ali]

EDIT:
Watched the replay... very, very nice lap 👍 There's not a lot more to come - just a couple of missed apex's and a couple of places the understeer catches you out and spoils the perfect line.... but tricky to run a 'perfect' lap in a car that fast.

Other than 2 obvious major mistakes I made on my lap I can see where I'm slowly bleeding time to you... I'm changing up too late, and I'm just not committing enough in the really fast corners.

8 seconds is an age, but at least I can see how to get maybe 6 of them... the other 2 are just LOFT

I don't know what lap time is possible, could push harder in some places... and those missed apex's/bad driving lines... I think I'll try this one again sometime . Even though I'm not a big fan of fast cars, I really liked this one! 👍

 

[Stotty]

I tried the Huayra again tonight but did't manage to complete half a lap in 20 mins of trying, so I switched a car I love, the NSX - a stock NSX Type R is the most perfect car in the game. Better on comfort softs (or mediums) than sports hard, but it's still a wonderous car on the 'Ring

Production
07:35.161 - Honda NSX-R Concept '01 (GTP_Stotty) BEATEN
07:29.250 - Honda NSX Type R '02 (GTP_Stotty) BEATEN
08:08.551 - Mazda RX-8 Type S '07 (GTP_Stotty) NEW

I knew there was a lot more time in the Concept, and I wanted to try the Type R too. Chipped a lot of time off my previous Concept lap (with more still to come), and took a few seconds off the Type R record. The Type R NSX feels quite different to the Concept - softer suspension makes it much better over the bumps and kerbs

RX8 is on comfort softs, and is really nice to drive... bit of understeer, but generally really well balanced.

 

[IBZ6L20VT]

Hi people! I love this thread and what's behind it: pure love for the Nordschleife. I'm trying to get some decent times to upload, but I'm a little bit far from the times of @Stotty, @mike_gt3 and the other guys. I know the ring as the back of my hand, but I'm still trying to find places to improve. I think that is more related with my driving skills. I'm still getting used with the G27. Btw, why can't we use the free run mode in the garage to try a hot lap? In arcade mode the kilometers doesn't count for the car. I know that is stupid, but anyway, I have the doubt.

Cheers guys!

 

[Stotty]

Hi people! I love this thread and what's behind it: pure love for the Nordschleife. I'm trying to get some decent times to upload, but I'm a little bit far from the times of @Stotty, @mike_gt3 and the other guys. I know the ring as the back of my hand, but I'm still trying to find places to improve. I think that is more related with my driving skills. I'm still getting used with the G27. Btw, why can't we use the free run mode in the garage to try a hot lap? In arcade mode the kilometers doesn't count for the car. I know that is stupid, but anyway, I have the doubt.

Cheers guys!

Welcome to the thread 👍

If you want replays of any of my times to use as a ghost or just watch for corners techniques and speeds, just ask (via pm) and I'll send them to you... I save a replay of all my posted laps.

Seems KM's don't count on the car, but they do for your total mileage.

 

[Im_Lukas]

I tried the Huayra again tonight but did't manage to complete half a lap in 20 mins of trying.

Had a replay from shortly after the game came out with a 7'09 so tried to improve on it, I managed to get down to 7'03 tonight with a small spin but I am also trying to break the 7 minute barrier just so I can say I've done it. I'm driving most of the lap in 3rd because coming out of some turns in 2nd is just asking for trouble and as soon as I lose traction I'm usually in the barrier, which is one thing I miss about using DS3 where I could save it a lot quicker. Good luck with getting it under 7 minutes, that is certainly a challenge.

 

[Stotty]

Had a replay from shortly after the game came out with a 7'09 so tried to improve on it, I managed to get down to 7'03 tonight with a small spin but I am also trying to break the 7 minute barrier just so I can say I've done it. I'm driving most of the lap in 3rd because coming out of some turns in 2nd is just asking for trouble and as soon as I lose traction I'm usually in the barrier, which is one thing I miss about using DS3 where I could save it a lot quicker. Good luck with getting it under 7 minutes, that is certainly a challenge.

The Huayra is a SOB... I have a 7.02 with 2 off tracks

It reminds me of trying toget a Speed 12 round the 'Ring in under 7 mins in GT5... on sports hards. That thing would wheelspin in 5th gear in a straight line.. so if could do it in that, I should be able to do the Huayra

This is the Speed 12 lap... ignore me shouting at my cat early on when it walked in front of me!

 

[IBZ6L20VT]

Welcome to the thread 👍

If you want replays of any of my times to use as a ghost or just watch for corners techniques and speeds, just ask (via pm) and I'll send them to you... I save a replay of all my posted laps.

Seems KM's don't count on the car, but they do for your total mileage.

I started yesterday with this free runs, so I want to give myself a chance. I have the Clio R.S. time as a reference. 8:20. If I can't manage myself to get to that, I'll yell for help lol. I'm trying to get a sub 8:30 with my real life car, the cupra. Thank you very much for the help offered and also because you were the one that discovered this thread for me.

 

[mike_gt3]

Welcome @IBZ6L20VT !

You are at the right place to improve on the ring! feel free to ask any questions about techniques used for any corner you are having trouble with

i will update later this week or easrly in weekend

 

[Im_Lukas]

It reminds me of trying toget a Speed 12 round the 'Ring in under 7 mins in GT5... on sports hards. That thing would wheelspin in 5th gear in a straight line.. so if could do it in that, I should be able to do the Huayra

This is the Speed 12 lap... ignore me shouting at my cat early on when it walked in front of me!

Nice driving, that thing just wanted to slide all over, from my memories of that car on GT5, crazy oversteer when on the throttle and oil tanker understeer when not. I think the Huayra is losing quite a bit of time on the straights compared to the Speed 12, but then again I don't look at the speed the Huayra goes because it's too fast to focus on that.

 

[Meesbaker]

Hi guys Ive got another one for the open category:

Open
05:43.869 - Honda Raybrig HSV-010 '12 (Meesbaker) NEW

Racing Soft Tyres, ABS 1, no skid recovery force, car @650pp

 

[Johnnypenso]

Two more for the 450PP SH category:

07:41.746 - Ford RS200'84 (Johnnypenso) NEW

07:42.104 - Mazda efini RX-7 Type R (FD) '91 (Johnnypenso) NEW

Tune for Ford RS200 84' - 450PP on SH v1.04

 

[Badhabit007]

Two more for me, one NEW and one BEATEN.

Production Cars
09:07.502 - Nissan SKYLINE 2000GT-R (KPGC110) '73 (Badhabit007) NEW
09:44.557 - Toyota Vitz RS 1.5 '07 (Badhabit007) BEATEN

Stock, Oil changed, no aids except ABS:1

Why the KPGC110? I had so much fun in GT4 & GT5 with this car, I had to test it in GT6. Still a lot of fun for a '73 car, and the sound of it is just great. The Vitz, well, I had the american version of this car for the past years, the Yaris RS 1.5, so I had to see what it was on the ring. Slow, of course, but surprisingly fun. But I 'm biased, I just love to drive on the ring, so...

Ciao!

Mart

 

[kubik94cz]

Great thread is good to have some benchmark. And great laps mike_gt3 i really tried to beat you in the clio, but best i did was 1,5 seconds of pace. 👍

Production Cars
07:42.424 - Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track '13 (kubik94cz) BEATEN
07:34.356 - RUF BTR '86 (kubik94cz) BEATEN
07:17.984 - Ruf CTR"Yellowbird" '87 (kubik94cz) NEW

 

[andp132]

hi
Open Category:
06:50.853 - Renault R5 Turbo "80 (AndroR35) BEATEN

 

[Johnnypenso]

I was going to take a crack at a couple of cars in the production category but I need some clarification first.

- Oil change allowed (if you start losing power..)

Does this mean you can't do the initial oil change when you purchase a car?

Also, can you adjust brake balance on a production car?

 

[psavi]

I must admit that I had some fun doing this lap.

Production car

07:16.813 - Diablo GT '00 (psavi) NEW

Edited: The hundredth digit was wrong.

Here goes the replay:

 

[Johnnypenso]

Some new production car times:

07:18.071 - Pagani Zonda C12 '00 (Johnnypenso) NEW

07:35.877 - Aston Martin DB9 Coupe '06 (Johnnypenso) NEW

07:43.252 - Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec Nur (R34) '02 (Johnnypenso) NEW

 

[IBZ6L20VT]

Ok, here we go with my first time into the board.

Production car

09:04.398 - Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA 1600 '65 (IBZ6L20VT) NEW

I chose this car because I do love it IRL. It has a lovely balance and its easy to find its limits. Anyway, some pros of this thread could beat my time and go under 9 min easily. I think that PD hadn't chose the tires right for this car, they have too much grip, and the same for the brakes. They have too much power for a car from 1965.

This will be the first of more cars that I love IRL and I want to see them in this board. I know that my times will be beaten soon, but anyway, is a real joy to try it and the more I drive the Ring, the more I learn it.

Cheers guys!

 

[Stotty]

I was going to take a crack at a couple of cars in the production category but I need some clarification first.

Does this mean you can't do the initial oil change when you purchase a car?

Also, can you adjust brake balance on a production car?

Yes, you can do an oil change before driving the car... I haven't changed the brake balance.