GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[mellofello9]

Had to google that and I guess you mean a Oldsmobile? 😁 nice! But not quite - the partners parents hehe...

My bad...I assume too much. That's a big 'yes' on Oldsmobile. If anyone else was looking for clarification (no, not mine, lol):

 

[Sup_player]

What are the good cars for race B?

I run the nsx… power of dreams lol

Anyone stream on twitch?!…

 

[sturk0167]

Looks like next week's daily races haven't come out yet, so I will pick them.

A: '70 Chevelle SS - Big Willow
B: Any Porsche street car below 650 PP - Kyoto Yamagiwa Reverse
C: ANY car below 750 PP - St. Croix B


.....Oh, I forgot to mention something about my races.
Race A will be BoP, and for races B & C, the game will remember your previous tune settings. 👍

 

[Fezzik]

Looks like next week's daily races haven't come out yet, so I will pick them.

A: '70 Chevelle SS - Big Willow
B: Any Porsche street car below 650 PP - Kyoto Yamagiwa Reverse
C: ANY car below 750 PP - St. Croix B


.....Oh, I forgot to mention something about my races.
Race A will be BoP, and for races B & C, the game will remember your previous tune settings. 👍

I like it. Don't know why PD don't do this - they obviously hate GT3/GT4 race cars and don't want to put anymore in their game so why keep using them for the online races? Just make it road cars only in all aspects of the game.

 

[Kriptical]

Because…to a degree 🧐 marketing partnerships tend to equate to spending time as the meta in gr3. And 4. 🤷‍♂️

 

[Voodoovaj]

My bad...I assume too much. That's a big 'yes' on Oldsmobile. If anyone else was looking for clarification (no, not mine, lol):
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I had one of those!!! It was originally willow gold metallic, but someone painted it red and I then repainted it white, with a lilac flip paint I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVED that car

 

[brockie]

Looks like next week's daily races haven't come out yet, so I will pick them.

A: '70 Chevelle SS - Big Willow
B: Any Porsche street car below 650 PP - Kyoto Yamagiwa Reverse
C: ANY car below 750 PP - St. Croix B


.....Oh, I forgot to mention something about my races.
Race A will be BoP, and for races B & C, the game will remember your previous tune settings. 👍

Great idea!

I’d go for;

Race A: brands hatch Indy, Mini Cooper 65 with tuning, sports soft, 10 laps

Race B: Grand Valley South reverse Gr4, racing medium, 5 laps

Race C: Spa, Porsche RSR Cup, racing soft, 8 laps, pit for fuel and tyres

But I’d need to take a week off 🤣

🙏

 

[newmedia_dev]

A: Lago Maggorie - east reverse - Comfort Awful - VGT 2.67 laps

B: Lago Maggorie - Full Reverse - Racing Hard 7 laps - group 4

C: Lago Maggorie - Full - racing mediums 8 laps - Gr3 - the illusion of strat but no actual strat

 

[cyirush]

A: Lago Maggorie - east reverse - Comfort Awful - VGT 2.67 laps

B: Lago Maggorie - Full Reverse - Racing Hard 7 laps - group 4

C: Lago Maggorie - Full - racing mediums 8 laps - Gr3 - the illusion of strat but no actual strat

Comfort awful is right. Who in their right mind would venture on track with the real world equivalent of GT7’s comfort tires (let alone race with them)?

Only benefit I can see is they’re good for developing car control. Never done as much counter steering as in Race A this week!

 

[newmedia_dev]

I tried the Alfa for B In QT and this is the best I could do, it's a really nice and stable car. It's hard to find the balance for me in gear selection, ultimately it feels so fast revving that being in 3rd for exits yields better times but it feels a little awkward to begin with.

The optimum is good but as you can see my sector 3 is all over the place

 

[Voodoovaj]

Comfort awful is right. Who in their right mind would venture on track with the real world equivalent of GT7’s comfort tires (let alone race with them)?

Only benefit I can see is they’re good for developing car control. Never done as much counter steering as in Race A this week!

LOL, it happens every weekend, all over the world. Folks just roll on up with whatever they have and do a track day. Ever watch the Nurburgring vids? Those folks just rolled up in whatever, paid their fee, and off they went.

Heck, I did a few laps in a Chevy pickup at a track day a few years back! They needed people to put down laps to get rid of some oil-dry and I borrowed a buddy's truck, and I wasn't alone.

But ya, pretty much every weekend, people are at the track with street cars and street tires. It happens all the time.

 

[newmedia_dev]

But ya, pretty much every weekend, people are at the track with street cars and street tires. It happens all the time.

Yes it does but the cars they give us run at least fast road rubber like pilot sports or T1s etc not remoulds recut and cross ply!

If I wanted to race historic rubber I'd race historic cars 🤣

Honestly I'm not sure the lower compounds reflect well on Michelin especially as they make some of the best fast road (all year round tires with track variants)

 

[Barney Da Dog]

Well this has been a great week - not done a single daily race 🤣

Made a heap of liveries, got an alt UK account set up, golded some more circuit experiences and the Focus time trial, and also worked through the Master licences - just got the Super License to do now. EDIT/ Done that.

Dogs have been very very well walked and I've done about 10 miles of flying with me new drone.

Hoping for enjoyable racing next week...

 

[Voodoovaj]

Yes it does but the cars they give us run at least fast road rubber like pilot sports or T1s etc not remoulds recut and cross ply!

If I wanted to race historic rubber I'd race historic cars 🤣

Honestly I'm not sure the lower compounds reflect well on Michelin especially as they make some of the best fast road (all year round tires with track variants)

Ya, as for how things reflect on Michelin, I think they're hard at work changing the interaction between suspension and tire, because it was around the same time that the Michelin branding came in, that the suspension went wonky.

BTW, try the Lambo in Race B

 

[newmedia_dev]

Ya, as for how things reflect on Michelin, I think they're hard at work changing the interaction between suspension and tire, because it was around the same time that the Michelin branding came in, that the suspension went wonky.

BTW, try the Lambo in Race B

Will try the lambo tomorrow.

My word SR is a slow grind in daily B! I mean they happily take it, but pole, clean race bonus and fastest lap (not win) and not tangling with anyone and it moves a fraction.

Edit: simple quality of life improvements for sport.

1. If I'm using my own car just equip the regulation tires for the 99% dry races we have.

2. Remove the bop acceptance screen. We get it ok...

 

[mellofello9]

But ya, pretty much every weekend, people are at the track with street cars and street tires. It happens all the time.

My Saturdays for YEARS was grabbing coffee and donuts and then heading down to the local farm show complex (huuuuuuuuuuge parking lots) where the SCCA cone dodgers would be out in force. Everything you can think of, and some you wouldn't, out there puttin' down times. Wish I had one of those Miatas...275's at all four corners.🤣

Ran a couple A races at lunch and had some fun. Between races was able to nix another tenth or so and finally/barely made it into the 44's (1:44.902):

Ready for next week, tho...😁

 

[Skyrocket44]

A: Super Formula @ Daytona Tri-Oval - 9 laps, RS
B: Gr.4 @ Sainte-Croix A Reverse - 2 laps, RH
C: Gr.3 @ DTS Reverse - 10 laps, RH, 7x fuel, 8x tyre, dampers, ARBs, frequency, diff

 

[cyirush]

LOL, it happens every weekend, all over the world. Folks just roll on up with whatever they have and do a track day. Ever watch the Nurburgring vids? Those folks just rolled up in whatever, paid their fee, and off they went.

Heck, I did a few laps in a Chevy pickup at a track day a few years back! They needed people to put down laps to get rid of some oil-dry and I borrowed a buddy's truck, and I wasn't alone.

But ya, pretty much every weekend, people are at the track with street cars and street tires. It happens all the time.

I’ve been doing track days in California for years and I don’t see that. Most people I run with take it seriously and come with a track prepped car.

And spare me the lol. What I said was who would do this. I didn’t claim no one does. And also we’re talking about a race not a track day. Do you do a lot of racing on crappy street tires (lol!)?

 

[Sum1s2pid]

Road Atlanta! Miatas! Long race day!

Didn't improve my 1:45.489.

Race 1: Started P2. Lacked pace and got swallowed up in traffic. Finished P6.

Race 2: Started P3. Struggled to conserve momentum. Finished P4.

Race 3: Started P2. Got a solid exit out of Turn 7 on Lap 3, and capitalized on the lead car braking too late into the final chicane. Grabbed a Fastest Lap on the final lap. Finished P1.

Race 4: Started P2. Screwed up the final chicane on Lap 2, taking the leader and myself out. Apologized during and after the race. Finished P7.

Sometimes the knucklehead that needs to get called out is you! 😑



Race 5: Started P4. Bumped a penalized driver into the grass that was a tad squirrely entering Turn 7 on Lap 2. Didn't apologize. I then proceeded to make every mistake in the book. Finished P11 (last). 😤

Race 6: Started P2. Committed no murders, and grabbed another Fastest Lap on Lap 2. Finished P2.

Race 7: Started P2. Lonely race. Large gap behind the car ahead, medium gap to the car behind. Finished P2.

Race 8: Started P2. Drove like I didn't have a brain in my head. Had a solo spin exiting the final chicane on Lap 1, and another on Lap 4. Finished P11 (last, after a DNF). 😤

Race 9: Started P2. Lost the lead with a penalty on the final lap. Finished P2.

Race 10: Started P3. Had a costly 1.0 second penalty on Lap 2, and a solo spin exiting Turn 7 on the final lap. Finished P9.

A mostly decent day, if you don't count the two terrible races where I finished last, one murder-suicide, and five wasted potential podium starts, but... I grabbed two Fastest Laps and four podiums, with one of them being a win. Yay? 😑

 

[mellofello9]

@Sum1s2pid ANY win makes it a good day. It's not easy winning online races, lol. Congrats! 👍

Also glad I'm not the only one strugglin' today (sorry, misery does love company😇). Had some spectacular lawn maintenance moments outta T1...it was like my brain forgot what the primary objective was. A lot.🤣

 

[Chris30]

Does anyone have a list of next week's races yet? It's Saturday and usually Glen or someone tells us by Friday. Just wondering.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Does anyone have a list of next week's races yet? It's Saturday and usually Glen or someone tells us by Friday. Just wondering.

They haven't been uploaded yet.

I'm hoping this isn't the start of a new policy at PD to stop them being known in advance....

 

[brockie]

Well let’s get some racing on, the kids have been to football and swimming and are out with the missus, I’ve a box of beer and a free 3 hours to get this Porsche RSR into the 1.49 at race B.

Tried the 4C this morning and that’s actually a decent little car in gr3, never used it before

Still got the circuit experience for GVH to do and managed to get a silver time in the TT but now for some daily racing

Maybe see some of you out there 👍

Edit:

Bless that little 4C

1.49.703 🤗

 

[brockie]

think I’m done with GVH 😁

Actually had a blast on race A though,

I need to do some practice on road atlanta QT - how the hell are you guys hitting 1.44? Man o man

I think Sunday will be dedicated to the MX5 or Miata as some might say

Reminds me of my early days in sim racing with Iracing - first ever win happened with the miata at lime rock 🤘

 

[ToneDef]

1second or 1min?

1 second is for a .5 rounded up which the game does.

1 min as Famine always points out is because of an incorrect pit stop or missed stop.

By the sound of the quality of the racing you describe I'd imagine you did QT on the RS didn't change them at the beginning of the race to RMs and ran two stints on the same compound.

Did you save the replay? I'd love to see it to help explain this issue you had?

I know this is late but if it was a 10 lapper you should have changed lap 8, for some reason changing on last lap doesn't count, it's happened to me.

Generally yes. But for example TTs that use EVs that are all CVT so it's not a carte Blanche thing.

But for most races and TTs using AT will hold you back, but this is caveated as you can be fast using AT and in dailies be competitive.

But we have to remember that competition is relative to the field, and things like some of the assists as well as AT will help people be competitive for the field they are in.

Less aids will make people faster, not because aids hold you back but you get smoother driving the cars so they wouldn't even trigger.

But short answer is most races in dailies aren't doing AT or assist users many favours, especially in GR4, GR3 I can see a bit of TC helping consistency but the rest are surplus after time.

This reply concerning AT and assist users, are u referring to just PS5 or do u know if it's the same for both PS5/4. I found your answer really interesting because I'm constantly coming 5th 6th 7th with a consistent time but seem to never get any faster even if it's jst incrementally tiny.

 

[Voodoovaj]

I’ve been doing track days in California for years and I don’t see that. Most people I run with take it seriously and come with a track prepped car.

But the world doesn't all live in California. We have to deal with things like weather.

And spare me the lol. What I said was who would do this. I didn’t claim no one does.

Well, by saying "who would do this?", you are opening up the floor to an answer, and I gave you one.

And also we’re talking about a race not a track day. Do you do a lot of racing on crappy street tires (lol!)?

Your original statement was "Who in their right mind would venture on track with the real world equivalent of GT7’s comfort tires". There's no qualifier about a race vs a track day, just who would venture on track. So, you're questioning the validity of a car, at track speed, on street tires. My answer is that it happens more often than you think.

Also, it's a game. The CS tires are fun IMHO.

There was also the response from @mellofello9 echoing what I said, so don't be too hurt.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/gt7-daily-race-discussion.404847/post-14394135

 

[newmedia_dev]

This reply concerning AT and assist users, are u referring to just PS5 or do u know if it's the same for both PS5/4. I found your answer really interesting because I'm constantly coming 5th 6th 7th with a consistent time but seem to never get any faster even if it's jst incrementally tiny.

It's the same for both. The problem with AT is that to get the best time for a given car/tire combo you may want to stay in a gear as it's quicker than changing up.

Conversely you may want to hard downshift in to the limiter for engine braking or additional rotation/turn in or balance.

AT is pre mapped to shift points that you can manipulate a little but with the throttle or the brake but it's slower than just commanding the gear you want.

In some conditions/cars you need to double shift (physically skip a gear) to get the maximum pace from the car. Looking at you Road Atlanta and the Radical!

My answer is that it happens more often than you think.

"Just because we can.....doesn't mean we should..."

If people had a choice (time, money, inclination) especially for track days or race days would probably pick the best rubber they could. It does happen, YouTube is full of them binning it at the Nordschlife

 

[mellofello9]

This reply concerning AT and assist users, are u referring to just PS5 or do u know if it's the same for both PS5/4. I found your answer really interesting because I'm constantly coming 5th 6th 7th with a consistent time but seem to never get any faster even if it's jst incrementally tiny.

Pretty sure it's the same experience on PS4/5. The caveat with assists is that you never learn what you could be doing better (throttle/steering/brake inputs, gear selection, etc) to enable you to pick-up pace. Running AT this/last week are great examples of how they won't keep you from winning, but might keep you from picking-up fastest lap...

• The Mercedes at Trial Mountain - just plain faster if you held on to 4th past where the AT would have upshifted while climbing the hill/back straight
• The MX-5 at RA - Again, there are a couple spots where holding on to a gear (well) past where it would force an upshift in AT mode is just faster

But, again, won't make you uncompetitive, just not the fastest car on the track. If you're wondering how the same car can gap you on a straight when you're side-by-side, shift points could be the answer.

All of the assists are there to be used and can be hugely beneficial. Eventually, though, and if you want to go faster, they can become a detriment. 👍

 

[Famine]

I know this is late but if it was a 10 lapper you should have changed lap 8, for some reason changing on last lap doesn't count, it's happened to me.

Taking a mandatory stop or swapping mandatory tyres can be done at any time in the race except for before the first lap starts (which can only be done if you're far enough back on a rolling start grid anyway) or approaching the finish on the final lap. In essence you must cross the start/finish line on track, not in the pits, at least once in all required states.

If it's a ten-lap race, the pit stop can be taken at the end of lap nine, no bother.

 

[Childe Roland]

The guy loses 2 positions under penalty but dont worry, this dude knows how to recover them.