GT7 Updates

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Doomotron
I think a few people have got the wrong end of the stick here, so to avoid people new to the thread from misinterpreting what I said as well I have chosen to delete what I wrote. In short, what I was trying to say was that there may be a link between the reduction in GT7's updates and a potential move to GT8 development, but because of the reasons mentioned before it's probably best if I leave that as the only comment I have on the issue.
 
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Lovely, a new thread based on a load of nonsense. I can also list 500 cars and tracks and I'm sure some of them would end up coming to the game. Doesn't make me the messiah.

It's almost like developing content for a new generation of hardware to higher standards makes things take longer? Groundbreaking.
 
Doomotron
According to a vile user on YouTube saying the dataminer(s) deserves to be hospitalised, on GTPlanet there was some drama months back about (I think) the list being made up or something to that effect.
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No. The list was originally presented - by the people posting it in various places, not the originators - as a "leak" but was actually a list of names and files (some more extensive than others) present in the game files.

Some wanted to make much more of this than it was, misleading others into thinking it was a list of things guaranteed to come to the game, when in reality the presence of something in the files is no guarantee at all; for example, while some cars from the "leaked" car list have indeed subsequently come to the game, some are just names of cars that have been carried over from much older games.

Besides, if you're positing that GT8 is taking development priority (for some reason) there's simply not the time left for all the things on the list to actually make it into the game at current rates; for example, we've not even had 60 cars yet in the 20 months since launch...
 
Doomotron
that leads me to some people suggesting that there is a potential mood in Sony and/or PD that GT7 is a dead horse and can't be revived (not that they've tried), and that the only step that can be taken is to make a new game
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Pretty much all they need to do to make it a good game in terms of what I'd like to see is:
1. Make all races pay out the same credit amount per minute.
2. Make the mission races pay out the same credits each time you repeat them as they did the first time.
3. Make all cars purchaseable at any time.

At the moment, while I sometimes come back for a time trial, or to run Tokyo WTC 600 with a new car, I don't have the urge to run the same race over and over again for hours a day. It wouldn't take much work to do the above, it's just a choice on their part to make the game the way it is.
 
Babe wake up new list just dropped
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Batschisane52
Why does this list use the flag of nazi-germany?...that's ********!
The 300SL was built in the 1950s, and while the 320 was built during the WWII, there is still no reason to use the flag of a nowadays distinct and non-existing country...
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Probably because it's a spoof based on the vehicle list from World of Tanks.

Edit: Or something similar, given that there's ships and planes on there. War Thunder?
 
Akmuq
Babe wake up new list just droppedView attachment 1295274
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Given the Crown Vic and its derivatives never had a V12 (or even a V10) put in them from the factory, and the only V12 Crown Vic derivative (the Meteor Interceptor) is neither finished nor has been scanned by anybody, that list is a bunch of Bravo Sierra wishcasting.
 
Eggstor
Given the Crown Vic and its derivatives never had a V12 (or even a V10) put in them from the factory, and the only V12 Crown Vic derivative (the Meteor Interceptor) is neither finished nor has been scanned by anybody, that list is a bunch of Bravo Sierra wishcasting.
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Something tells me the several Imperial Japanese warships are a better indicator of that.
 
I have edited my original post as I think people have got the wrong idea and once again are proving why I really shouldn't bother posting on this site much - it's only on this site where things like this happen consistently. I'm not quite sure why my post was so controversial, but if it's a consistent thing I'll delete the post to avoid more confrontation.
TumeK5
I can see why 👀
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None taken.
Tired Tyres
It takes the modelers 9 months to make a car now over the 6 months it used to take. PD are too small a team to develop in the way GTS was.
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Really? The quality of the car models hasn't increased in a substantial way since GTS (or even GT6's newer models for that matter although the textures certainly have), so I struggle to believe that an extra three months has been added to the development time.
Nebuc72
Lovely, a new thread based on a load of nonsense. I can also list 500 cars and tracks and I'm sure some of them would end up coming to the game. Doesn't make me the messiah.

It's almost like developing content for a new generation of hardware to higher standards makes things take longer? Groundbreaking.
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Famine
No. The list was originally presented - by the people posting it in various places, not the originators - as a "leak" but was actually a list of names and files (some more extensive than others) present in the game files.

Some wanted to make much more of this than it was, misleading others into thinking it was a list of things guaranteed to come to the game, when in reality the presence of something in the files is no guarantee at all; for example, while some cars from the "leaked" car list have indeed subsequently come to the game, some are just names of cars that have been carried over from much older games.

Besides, if you're positing that GT8 is taking development priority (for some reason) there's simply not the time left for all the things on the list to actually make it into the game at current rates; for example, we've not even had 60 cars yet in the 20 months since launch...
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I am fully aware of what the leak was - I'm not sure if I should feel like I'm being patronised or if it was a genuine misinterpretation of what I wrote. My point was to fight back at the idea that the track list was baseless, because both the car and track datamines have come at least partially true. I'm not sure what's so controversial about what I said - I didn't say Red Rock Valley was 100% being developed, just that based on the rest of the tracks in the list being added there was at least a chance. And I didn't even talk about the car list other than mentioning it existed - I don't even know what's on it for crying out loud! I know that the car list is large and will never fully come true, which is why I didn't use it as 'evidence' - not that there's any evidence that GT7's smaller updates were because of GT8 anyway, just that it's a theory based on a combination of its poor reception and good sales figures. This is the only forum or community I've ever been in where speculation like this get such a negative impact. That said, I think you've all made your mind up anyway.
 
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TumeK5
Cool, you go ahead and do that. Take care :cheers:
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And another one for the ignore list... I could talk explain why I think your comments are rude and childish, but I think I'd sound either like a child myself or a Karen on Facebook, or somewhere in between those. Plus I'm pretty sure most of the people in this thread have a similar opinion to you anyway, so there's not much point defending myself.
 
Famine
No. The list was originally presented - by the people posting it in various places, not the originators - as a "leak" but was actually a list of names and files (some more extensive than others) present in the game files.

Some wanted to make much more of this than it was, misleading others into thinking it was a list of things guaranteed to come to the game, when in reality the presence of something in the files is no guarantee at all; for example, while some cars from the "leaked" car list have indeed subsequently come to the game, some are just names of cars that have been carried over from much older games.

Besides, if you're positing that GT8 is taking development priority (for some reason) there's simply not the time left for all the things on the list to actually make it into the game at current rates; for example, we've not even had 60 cars yet in the 20 months since launch...
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Correct me if I am misremembering too, but I recall one time in one of the previous Gran Turismo titles, players found evidence of the Seattle track from GT4, and we were all hopeful that track would be coming back to the series. That has yet to happen. I am just using that as an example of what you're saying is completely true. You nailed it perfectly.
 
omgitsbees
Correct me if I am misremembering too, but I recall one time in one of the previous Gran Turismo titles, players found evidence of the Seattle track from GT4, and we were all hopeful that track would be coming back to the series. That has yet to happen. I am just using that as an example of what you're saying is completely true. You nailed it perfectly.
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To be fair, Gran Turismo 5 did have Seattle hidden in it and can be played with mods. As far as I'm aware it received texture updates alongside a few other PS2-era circuits but obviously was never actually added, and if it did would have been wildly inaccurate in the second half of the circuit.
 
Doomotron
Really? The quality of the car models hasn't increased in a substantial way since GTS (or even GT6's newer models for that matter although the textures certainly have), so I struggle to believe that an extra three months has been added to the development time.
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Yes. Really. Kaz confirmed it in an interview.
 
Doomotron
I am fully aware of what the leak was - I'm not sure if I should feel like I'm being patronised or if it was a genuine misinterpretation of what I wrote.
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Neither.
Doomotron
My point was to fight back at the idea that the track list was baseless, because both the car and track datamines have come at least partially true.
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Doomotron
According to a vile user on YouTube saying the dataminer(s) deserves to be hospitalised, on GTPlanet there was some drama months back about (I think) the list being made up or something to that effect.
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As far as I am aware, this never happened. While all (non-hateful) opinions are welcome to be posted on GTPlanet, I have no recollection at all of anyone on this site, any number of months back, saying a list of tracks presented from mined GT7 data was baseless, regardless of what "a vile user on YouTube" has claimed. I do recall people pointing out that such lists are no guarantee of anything in future content terms, however.

This serves to repudiate this specific sentence, as I directly quoted, with additional context of what actually happened that this "vile user" is misrepresenting and that you have subsequently presented uncritically. No misinterpretation, and no patronising, just repudiation.
 
Doomotron
To be fair, Gran Turismo 5 did have Seattle hidden in it and can be played with mods. As far as I'm aware it received texture updates alongside a few other PS2-era circuits but obviously was never actually added, and if it did would have been wildly inaccurate in the second half of the circuit.
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No, the PS2 tracks in GT5 are just straight from the PS2. They aren't 'hidden' updated tracks. They are just the straight from PS2 tracks chilling in the game files. These signs aren't exactly PS3 quality.
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You've mentioned Red Rock multiple times now as well. That's just a track PD use for model testing, and has been in the game files as a specifically labelled TEST track for multiple games.
 
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Batschisane52
Why would someone hate a flag, that stands as symbol for a regime that started a global war and that killed up to 7 million innocent citizens without any reason in their concentartion camps-make me an educated guess...
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People unirocinally support the Isrealis idk what to tell you, this is prob PD giving a brutal but accurate account of history.
 
Batschisane52
Why would someone hate a flag, that stands as symbol for a regime that started a global war and that killed up to 7 million innocent citizens without any reason in their concentartion camps-make me an educated guess...
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Because it's not actually it, it's just a censored look-alike spoof made for a video game to resemble the actual flag and stand-in for it. The Germans also probably killed more than 7 million people in concentration and extermination camps alone. The current estimates are actually somewhere closer to like 10 million, and I don't think that counts the starvation and general massacres during the war they committed, but I digress. The point is it's not a no-no people flag, it's not even a German flag, it's completely fictional and isn't worth being angry over. It's about as close to the real thing as the flag of the Empire in Star Wars is.
 
Aksu593
Because it's not actually it, it's just a censored look-alike spoof made for a video game to resemble the actual flag and stand-in for it. The Germans also probably killed more than 7 million people in concentration and extermination camps alone. The current estimates are actually somewhere closer to like 10 million, and I don't think that counts the starvation and general massacres during the war they committed, but I digress. The point is it's not a no-no people flag, it's not even a German flag, it's completely fictional and isn't worth being angry over. It's about as close to the real thing as the flag of the Empire in Star Wars is.
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It is not a fictional flag, but resembles the "Reichskriegsflagge"(e.g. the war ensign) used by the armed forces(army, navy and air force) of Nazi-germany from 1935 until 1945...
But enough history lessons here, don't wanna get pooed again, just for posting the obvious...;)
 
Batschisane52
It is not a fictional flag, but resembles the "Reichskriegsflagge"(e.g. the war ensign) used by the armed forces(army, navy and air force) of Nazi-germany from 1935 until 1945...
But enough history lessons here, don't wanna get pooed again, just for posting the obvious...;)
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Well you are correct in that it resembles it, but the different proportions and symbols used in it and other stand-in flags of the type make me consider it at least a "fictional-ish" flag as these tend to built from scratch to resemble the war flag instead of just taking it and scrubbing the swastika.
 
i continue using my imperial japanese lexus livery in sport mode, if they ever ban these flags or general lee it will be a dark day, kaz is conservative and i can count he will not submit to woke crowd like what happen 3 years ago to forza (dark day)
but i am confidente if they add german cars from nazi-era there will be none of that flag that because you cannot use this flag in games in some countries
 
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Pascalmk
i continue using my imperial japanese lexus livery in sport mode, if they ever ban these flags or general lee it will be a dark day, kaz is conservative and i can count he will not submit to woke crowd like what happen 3 years ago
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Oh wow that's not what I expected from the guy who poo reacts everyone who likes GT7.
Perhaps just stick to the poops? Your opinions aren't very good!
 

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