(GTOR) Group C Le Mans 3 Hour Endurance Event! - June '15Open

[WolfpackS2k]

The mighty Group C race cars that once ruled the streets of Le Mans may be gone, but they have never been forgotten. The monstrous speed of these cars is more or less the reason 2 chicanes were added to the Mulsanne straight in 1990. Modern prototype cars are now more focused on fuel economy rather than speed, thus despite all the R&D spent on these modern vehicles they still cannot match the awesomeness of the Group C era.

Let us go back in time 25 years ago to 1990…

Cars:
1988 Jaguar XJR-9 960 hp 894 kg 686 PP
1989 Minolta Toyota 88C-V 951 hp 850 kg 700 PP
1989 Sauber Mercedes C9 973 hp 893 kg 679 PP
1989 Nissan R89C 953 hp 900 kg 690 PP
1991 Mazda 787B 831 hp 830 kg 683 PP
1992 Nissan R92CP 986 hp 900 kg 695 PP
1992 Peugeot 905B Evo 1 Bis LM 839 hp 750 kg 690 PP​

Track:
Circuit de la Sarthe ’09 (no chicanes)

Regulations:
No power adders allowed
Tires = Racing, any type

Tire/fuel consumption = normal
Draft = real
Track edge = real
Time progression = 8 times (24 hrs in 3 hrs time)
Weather = fixed
Penalties = off
Damage = ON

Driver Aids allowed:
ABS = 1

Qualifying will take place 1-2 days before race itself
Race duration – 3 hours
Race time will be on a Saturday or Sunday, with a time chosen that should work for European and American entrants.

*If there is not enough initial interest I may open up sign-ups for a lower class (LMP1 or GT1) to encourage others intimidated by the 700PP cars.

ENTRANTS
1) WolfpackS2k - Sauber C9
2) PsychoPhreak - Sauber C9
3) Mc Cauley
4) True-Blue-8 - Jaguar XJR-9
5) dlrws6 -
6) Ettick - Minolta Toyota 88C-V
7) Skilledracer - Mazda 787B
8) TRL_Andromeda - Nissan R92CP / Toyota
9) Downhill Dino - Nissan R89C

Reserve:
Furinkazen - Jaguar XJR-9
Mike458 - 787B

 

[MC CAULEY]

I'll give it a go.

 

[True-blue-8]

Can I have the Jagwar sir oh please oh pwetty pwetty pwease

 

[PJTierney]

Just out of curiosity, how well-balanced are these cars with the specs you provided?

 

[WolfpackS2k]

Leaving everything alone, other than adjusting the transmission top speed slider to 255, and using RM tires, they were all lapping right around 3:10.xxx per lap. Fuel consumption also seems to be same across the board, roughly 10 liters / lap.

I haven't done any tire wear evaluations but I don't expect that to vary much.

 

[Ettick]

I'll take the Toyota.

 

[MC CAULEY]

Oh and I'll take the 92 Nissan.

Provisionally of course. Can we pick any car we want?

 

[WolfpackS2k]

You can. Changes can be made up until close to race date. I just want to ensure that, depending on participation, we don't have more than 2 people using any given model. 👍

 

[SkilledRacer]

I'll take the 787B but I may have to pull out of this depending on what happens during June time

 

[TRL_Andromeda]

I think I can make it to this race, it sounds fun!

I'll go with either the '92 nissan or the minolta toyota....
probably nissan.

 

[Brutaka]

I'm very interested, however I'll need more concrete time info first.
Also one quick note, I dont think Le Mans 09 No chicane has time change.

 

[SkilledRacer]

I'm very interested, however I'll need more concrete time info first.
Also one quick note, I dont think Le Mans 09 No chicane has time change.

It doesnt unfortunately

 

[WolfpackS2k]

AH! Thank you for bringing that to my attention. I'll look into that today and will make any needed changes.

Nice avatar Brutaka. I've got my fingers crossed that Muse's new album will be good.

 

[Mike458]

I will take the Mazda 787B, please put me on reserve as I may not be able to make this event.

 

[SkilledRacer]

Will you be setting up a Community group for this as well?

 

[WolfpackS2k]

I will take the Mazda 787B, please put me on reserve as I may not be able to make this event.

Will do. BTW I grew up not too far from you - Short Hills / Summit area.

Will you be setting up a Community group for this as well?

Yes!

 

[WolfpackS2k]

I'm very interested, however I'll need more concrete time info first.
Also one quick note, I dont think Le Mans 09 No chicane has time change.

Unfortunately it doesn't look like either (no chicanes) track allows for weather and/or time change. We'll just have to persevere without that option!

 

[Mike458]

Will do. BTW I grew up not too far from you - Short Hills / Summit area.

Well, we should visit each other sometime!

Unfortunately it doesn't look like either (no chicanes) track allows for weather and/or time change. We'll just have to persevere without that option!

We should be able to have one race steward monitor the chicanes and give penalties to anyone that completely cuts them.

 

[Furinkazen]

Could I go as a reserve? Jaguar or Sauber free?

 

[WolfpackS2k]

Well, we should visit each other sometime!



We should be able to have one race steward monitor the chicanes and give penalties to anyone that completely cuts them.

Haha, sorry Mike I live in North Carolina now - though I'll be in Bedminster on the 16th for a wedding, lol. And in my previous comment I meant we'll just not have changing time of day - we'll still use the course without chicanes.

Could I go as a reserve? Jaguar or Sauber free?

You can, take the Jaguar please if that's alright.

 

[Mike458]

Can I please go on reserve as well?

 

[Downhill Dino]

I'll drive the Nissan R89C.

 

[PJTierney]

Leaving everything alone, other than adjusting the transmission top speed slider to 255, and using RM tires, they were all lapping right around 3:10.xxx per lap. Fuel consumption also seems to be same across the board, roughly 10 liters / lap.

I haven't done any tire wear evaluations but I don't expect that to vary much.

Interesting.

The club I race with is also running a Group C event in June. I did the balancing for it (2013 layout, with chicanes) and came up with the following specs:

All cars on RS doing 3:23 with near identical acceleration and top speed stats.

 

[Mike458]

Interesting.

The club I race with is also running a Group C event in June. I did the balancing for it (2013 layout, with chicanes) and came up with the following specs:

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All cars on RS doing 3:23 with near identical acceleration and top speed stats.

Anything different in terms of tire wear?

 

[PJTierney]

LeMans is pretty soft on tyres due to the straights. Fuel was pretty balanced across all 7 cars. Our race is only 2 hours long however.

 

[SkilledRacer]

Anything occurred with the GT Community group for this?

 

[WolfpackS2k]

sorry @SkilledRacer I've been doing a lot of traveling and haven't played GT6 much.

It's coming!

 

[MC CAULEY]

Ok, what is happening with this? Could you post start time, day and all that. I'll need to know soon to get ready for Qualy.

I'm in the 92 Nissan. With all that horsepower it must handle bad, haha.

 

[Mike458]

So what specs are we going to use? The GTOR specs of @PJTierney 's specs?

 

[Mikey24]

Ok, what is happening with this? Could you post start time, day and all that. I'll need to know soon to get ready for Qualy.

I'm in the 92 Nissan. With all that horsepower it must handle bad, haha.

They're doing everything on their website and just kinda left this thread to rot. 👍