GTP Cool Wall: 2016+ Bugatti Chiron

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2016+ Bugatti Chiron


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Who knew that a Bugatti could cause such a ruckus.
 
You never questioned the Lunar Rover or any other concept/race cars being polled. You just added your opinion & called them seriously uncool. Of all the cars to start questioning the reasoning of being polled, why on a car that is well beyond the concept phase and enters production in just a couple months?
I'm pretty sure that I have questioned the rationale of having other non-production, concept and racing cars appearing here. In fact I'm pretty sure that links have been posted of me doing so...
This is just arguing for the sake of it.

There is not going to be any sort of drastic change between the pre-production cars & the first client car that will change any of the views here. Half the opinions are based on the image these cars project to begin with.
I'm not sure why that matters when the point is that it's only possible to judge how cool people think this car will be rather than how cool it is...
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Who knew that a Bugatti could cause such a ruckus.
Or even no Bugattis :D
 
You never questioned the Lunar Rover or any other concept/race cars being polled. You just added your opinion & called them seriously uncool. Of all the cars to start questioning the reasoning of being polled, why on a car that is well beyond the concept phase and enters production in just a couple months?

To be completely fair, though, the Lunar Rover was a production vehicle, and customers did get to drive them.

They didn't get to keep them, sadly.

If I had a thirty eight million dollar car, I sure as hell wouldn't leave it on the moon.
 
I'm not saying @FerrariF1GT's logic is correct, but I honestly never understood the "this isn't a like wall" logic. Can't people come up with their own criteria for "coolness"? There's no rules anywhere that say that you liking the car or not is not a factor in the way you should vote.

No one is saying that it is, nor is anyone dictating a vote. If I came in and said "hey you can't vote cool just cause you have a bias toward it to begin with", I could see your point. However, I simply said it's not a like wall, meaning that you should vote based on multiple things, not just your favorite. Me saying that isn't going to change the way he votes or anyone else for that matter, but it does bring up conversation about differing views which a forum tends to foster.

However, my sense is yet again people want to simply post what they say and never really have to have it questioned, when that's just not how a forum will ever operate.
 
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I'll just leave my opinion on the Chiron here whilst you lot argue about something that doesn't really matter.

SZ. Looks way better than the Veyron and it looks like it'll be one of those products that will define the decade. Much like the Veyron did in the '00s.
 
I want to like it but I can't. It's just one of those "Look how much money I have!" cars. I've almost always said looks aren't everything, but... This is the exception. Solid SU.
 
I guess being able to drive at over 250 mph like it's nothing and still be super comfortable is mundane these days.
Super comfortable? I hadn't realised you'd driven it at that speed. I can't imagine that it feels like nothing.
 
Super comfortable? I hadn't realised you'd driven it at that speed. I can't imagine that it feels like nothing.
That's not a point I'd try to bring up in a Cool Wall thread. A large chunk of opinions posted are based without any personal experience what-so-ever. I'm sure @JC_Dude is basing that on what folks have said about the car or how the Veyron was praised for that sort of thing.

The car is still an engineering marvel, even if its technology was founded with the Veyron. 1,500Hp in a reliable, warranty-backed car that's easy enough for anyone to drive without any fuss is quite an achievement. We've only just begun to see Ferrari, Porsche, & McLaren enter that realm in the last couple of years.
 
That's not a point I'd try to bring up in a Cool Wall thread. A large chunk of opinions posted are based without any personal experience what-so-ever. I'm sure @JC_Dude is basing that on what folks have said about the car or how the Veyron was praised for that sort of thing.
Ah, but as Famine has so rightly pointed out, the car doesn't really exist yet, so we don't know if 250 mph feels effortless or not.

The car is still an engineering marvel, even if its technology was founded with the Veyron. 1,500Hp in a reliable, warranty-backed car that's easy enough for anyone to drive without any fuss is quite an achievement. We've only just begun to see Ferrari, Porsche, & McLaren enter that realm in the last couple of years.
I dunno, as someone with an engineering background I really don't see what all the fuss is about.

I was expecting a lot from this thread, but I didn't expect people to bring up engineering. Try it sometime and you'll realise that it's really not all it's cracked up to be. And as for whether engineering is cool, try inviting some engineers over for a party and tell me how that goes.
 
Ah, but as Famine has so rightly pointed out, the car doesn't really exist yet, so we don't know if 250 mph feels effortless or not.
Couldn't care less about such silly semantics.

I dunno, as someone with an engineering background I really don't see what all the fuss is about.

I was expecting a lot from this thread, but I didn't expect people to bring up engineering. Try it sometime and you'll realise that it's really not all it's cracked up to be. And as for whether engineering is cool, try inviting some engineers over for a party and tell me how that goes.[/QUOTE]
Or you could try not acting like just because you studied it, your word is law.
 
Or you could try not acting like just because you studied it, your word is law.
Strictly speaking I'm still studying it.

But yeah, by all means, continue to labour under the delusion that engineers are somehow magicians and are incredibly cool. I don't mind people having that view of my field, but at some point you're going to be very disillusioned.
 
I actually think this looks cool, unlike the Veyron, because it looks more like a Bugatti and they put more effort into the styling, and it is an impressive feat of engineering that raises the bar for the car industry.

Still Seriously Uncool because it's every 9-year old kids' wet dream, and it will undoubtedly be soon purchased by rich snobs who will almost never, if at all, use the car.
 
impressive feat of engineering
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Well it doesn't look 4 years out of date in the year it's released, like its predecessor. Somehow this managed to click* without being especially attractive.

*Excluding the rear.


And still nowhere does it "say" a pre-production car that has been approved for production shouldn't qualify for these polls, hence their inclusion.

Have to admit that back in July I believed that full production would have already commenced by the time this thread came about. Though all I see now are articles stating "September", so... *shrugs*.

By the rules I've set and based on the time and nature of the models in the nomination, it does technically mean that this wasn't ready for polling. Perhaps it's close enough to the point where orders will start being delivered and a final version may even already exist in Molsheim. I wouldn't think that many here would cast different votes based on production status when the final product will undoubtedly look identical to the existing near-production cars, but it's obviously a point that some can't ignore while choosing not to vote.

Basically, I'm being extremely lenient with this one (probably nothing to do with my fading ability to vet nominations properly thanks to working 5(am) til 9(pm) with scraps of internet time throughout the summer). So if I shoot down anything else that's not yet ready for the average prince to rack up parking tickets with in Londonboroughbridge, don't be shocked.

the case with most of the cars on the cool wall is that they can't even do their cool things until they get to a racetrack

Not without Hoosiers and a rollbar, bro.
 
Strictly speaking I'm still studying it.

But yeah, by all means, continue to labour under the delusion that engineers are somehow magicians and are incredibly cool. I don't mind people having that view of my field, but at some point you're going to be very disillusioned.
I don't think they're anything of the sort. Doesn't change the fact the Veyron was considered an engineering feat of a car at the time, bc there was nothing like it at the time.

Don't care about your rambling of engineering. Nothing more than subtle attempt of, "well I do it, so I know better" to support your view. You've no more experience building a Bugatti then I or anyone else here, so pointless banter.
 
I'm willing to agree to disagree on the whole crazy engineering thing, but I would like people who call this an "abomination" or "pile of garbage" to elaborate a bit on their views.
 
It does look pretty, it has some beautiful design features, but at the same time it gives off a vibe of new body panels on a Veyron chassis.

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But you can't blame VAG. It's time that Bugatti earns some money for them.

During this post I'm reading up on the car. It turns out that the engine, more specifically the turbos work different in the Chiron. No longer parallel but in series.
Here, have an article to read.


Also. It still is an engineering marvel. Pumping out 250hp more out of the engine. Top speed limited at 420kph.*



But seeing that non of them actually exist yet, I'm not voting.








*on paper.
 
Strictly speaking I'm still studying it.

But yeah, by all means, continue to labour under the delusion that engineers are somehow magicians and are incredibly cool. I don't mind people having that view of my field, but at some point you're going to be very disillusioned.

But that wasn't at all what he was saying, he was saying the opposite really, you're limited background doesn't usurp the fact that a (prototype) car evolved from it's predecessor is still a great feat of automotive engineering. Especially when others are trying to do the same in more crude was (other than Koenigsegg I'd say and even smaller groups).

Also I don't see where anyone says engineers are cool...I think many here ideally see them as uncool if not plain nerds. I mean I'm in the same area of study as you are at this point, but I can see where people are coming from in relation to this car.
 
I'm not sure why engineers are even being brought up. I can think the SR-71 Blackbird is cool and an amazing piece of engineering but the engineers themselves have nothing to do with the coolness of the product.
 
Surely its not just me who thinks it's too short? A little longer and I'm happy.

It is actually a little bit bigger than the Veyron, but the way the aero is packaged on the car makes it seem smaller.

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Dimensionally, the Chiron remains close to its predecessor. At 4544mm long, 2038mm wide and 1212mm tall, it is 82mm longer, 40mm wider and 53mm higher than the Veyron. The similarities also extend to the wheelbase, which is just 1mm longer, at 2711mm. The Chiron sits on 285/30 R20 ZR tyres at the front, with 355/25 R21 ZR rubber at the rear.
 
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