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I voted meh because its not even going to be direct fuel injection, your losing power people. For tiny engines I'd expect more. And a hard top.
GTP Cool Wall: 2016+ Fiat 124 Spider
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Sub zero, as it's got the driving dynamics of a Miata with the heritage of the 124. Or, according to some; "heritage". I'd rather have the Miata but this is no doubt a cool car to me. Especially nice to see something other than the 500 here in the States.
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cool, I think it looks better than the Miata, and though its a bit heavier, it has the torque to make up for it.
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Quite the polarizing car it seems, judging by the current votes.
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The new Miata looks like it's trying too hard to look mean. I like the looks of the 124 a lot more. My only complaint is if they were going for throwback styling, the headlights should be round like my '73 124, but maybe that's just me. 
Cool.
Cool.
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It's a badge job.
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That said, the looks are starting to grow on me. As long as you do your best not to think about the perfectly tight proportions of the ND Miata while looking at this thing, it doesn't look like an awkward, heavy car with large overhangs. It looks more proportional to the NC Miata.
Still, it's a badge job. And those aren't ever cool.
Except when they are.
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That said, the looks are starting to grow on me. As long as you do your best not to think about the perfectly tight proportions of the ND Miata while looking at this thing, it doesn't look like an awkward, heavy car with large overhangs. It looks more proportional to the NC Miata.
Still, it's a badge job. And those aren't ever cool.
Except when they are.
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- Conza_No1
Would've liked to be here for this vote - Seriously Uncool.
Why? Well, this was going to be the re-invention of the Alfa Romeo Spider, and it was going to look gorgeous - look!
But no, Alfa already has the 4C, let's throw Fiat a bone, the executives said.
We'll get the Mazda MX-5 still, but make it look like a shrunk Viper, that's been ruined.
It's hideous.
I was hoping it would still be the smart choice if you wanted a low cost sports car that you could take the roof off, because the MX-5 looked a little squinty, but looking at the Fiat SPider 124, the MX-5 looks great... A completely wasted opportunity.
Why? Well, this was going to be the re-invention of the Alfa Romeo Spider, and it was going to look gorgeous - look!
But no, Alfa already has the 4C, let's throw Fiat a bone, the executives said.
We'll get the Mazda MX-5 still, but make it look like a shrunk Viper, that's been ruined.
It's hideous.
I was hoping it would still be the smart choice if you wanted a low cost sports car that you could take the roof off, because the MX-5 looked a little squinty, but looking at the Fiat SPider 124, the MX-5 looks great... A completely wasted opportunity.
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Missed the poll on this, but would have been an easy Cool. It's effectively an MX5 of course but I'm not sure how this is a basis for it being SU, unless you just really dislike MX5s.
I like the styling less, too busy, but it has a little more power, and will doubtless be very fun. That Alfa mock up above though, would have been awesome if it was for real and came to fruition.
I like the styling less, too busy, but it has a little more power, and will doubtless be very fun. That Alfa mock up above though, would have been awesome if it was for real and came to fruition.
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We know it's going to be produced, have the specs, can see numerous pics of it and know its tried and tested underpinnings. Surely it's no different then to the majority of cars posted here? The point of it reaching production would only be a factor if we were to actually test drive it, and the majority of us are unlikely to have that opportunity.
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Except that it doesn't exist - and could be canned at any time without ever existing.
It was going to be the Alfa Romeo Spider in the middle of Summer 2015. Had we voted on it in January 2015, we'd all have voted on a car that never existed. FIAT could pull this car at any time and we'd be faced with the same situation.
Surely it doesn't make any sense whatsoever to vote on cars that haven't hit the market yet, except as "concept" models?
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If you think about it, it doesn't necessarily make "sense" to vote on anything.
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Joel
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Yes it does. Voting on the perceived coolness of real cars you can buy new in a showroom or find used is an entirely different thing than voting on the perceived coolness of a car model that nobody on Earth actually owns an example of.
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Except that unlike the FIAT, the Alfa Romeo Spider didn't exist as an actual car, and this car was only speculated as an Alfa several years ago until that company got all patriotic, and they put their extra investments allocated to them into the Giulia, among several other cars.
Then they revealed this 20 months later, with all the specs, design and a production-ready car at the LA Auto Show. Now, it would have to take serious balls or a very serious cut in funding for FIAT to cancel this car now, considering it's releasing this year and the aforementioned production-ready status.
Finally, while I in fact nominated this vehicle half-expecting it to be knocked back for this very reason, the fact is that it wasn't and so here we were voting on it.
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Would've liked to be here for this vote - Seriously Uncool.
Why? Well, this was going to be the re-invention of the Alfa Romeo Spider, and it was going to look gorgeous - look!
But no, Alfa already has the 4C, let's throw Fiat a bone, the executives said.
We'll get the Mazda MX-5 still, but make it look like a shrunk Viper, that's been ruined.
It's hideous.
I was hoping it would still be the smart choice if you wanted a low cost sports car that you could take the roof off, because the MX-5 looked a little squinty, but looking at the Fiat SPider 124, the MX-5 looks great... A completely wasted opportunity.
I know Alfa's styling has gone in another direction, but I was hoping it would be something like this:
The 4C-like render just has too much "Boxster" about it. I know retro is cool in small doses, but I was hoping we could start the "post-retro" era, already.
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I don't know about your personal level of evidence, but the FIAT may not exist as an actual car either.
Sure, we've seen press shots and a physical model of it on stage at... uhhh... was it Frankfurt? Anyone driven it? Anyone even seen the finished product in motion?
And yet it has happened before. Remember this?
It was cancelled with only two cars made - and the picture above is in the Ingolstadt museum.
Jaguar (CX75), Hummer (HX), smart (Formore), Jeep (JJ), Ford (Carousel), Chrysler (Falcon) - you don't have to try very hard to come up with cars that were finished, production ready and, at the least, had moving examples when they were canned.
Indeed - which was my original query:
Wiegert
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In terms of development, this is about as eligible for polling as numerous concept cars that failed to reach production while existing beyond the realm of vapourware. But as it currently sits somewhere between a tangible concept and production-ready (considering the underpinning is in production elsewhere and the specs sheet isn't a load of wishful tripe), I didn't feel the need to press for this to be nominated as a concept.
Whether it would have differed greatly from the results if it had been listed as such, I can't say. All I can be sure of is that my vote wouldn't change based on its appearance.
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I don't know about your personal level of evidence, but the FIAT may not exist as an actual car either.
Sure, we've seen press shots and a physical model of it on stage at... uhhh... was it Frankfurt? Anyone driven it? Anyone even seen the finished product in motion?And yet it has happened before. Remember this?
That's the Audi quattro spyder. It was in such an advanced stage that sales brochures had been printed and they'd commissioned advertising for it:
It was cancelled with only two cars made - and the picture above is in the Ingolstadt museum.
Ohhh never saw that Audi before, love it! Weird choice of music in the ad though (the theme from the old UK series The Avengers)
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Perhaps you mean to say, not an actual car? I'd be amazed if it wasn't an actual image.
I know that Alfa Romeo didn't make any of these in the metal... That the world will ever know about, I'm just saying this is perhaps the height of the potential that 'could've' been achieved. Instead the Fiat 124.
@Famine - Fair comment, not a 100% confirmed car, but I think it feels about 97% here's one of the latest news article, I'd say its a sure thing. http://www.motoring.com.au/fiat-confirms-124-spider-name-49653/
Unlike other cars that have been pulled later, this one has a lot more going for it, considering people are buying the real Mazda MX-5... More likely for that reason alone. Besides it's so ugly, must be a production car.
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Was canned because Audi reckoned it would be too expensive to build and that sales wouldn't have justified said cost.
" it seems the wrong time to launch an £800,000 to £1 million supercar."
Shown just 2 years before GM announced bankruptcy and started shutting down and attempting to sell off brands, including HUMMER
Didn't even debut in 2005 when it was supposed to, Mercedes canned the project before Frankfurt
Became the Icon Concept, which was panned because of its looks, and also wasn't a running concept
1973 energy crisis, and mid-70s recession, however some of the design traits did find their use in later American minivans
Production-intent, never approved.
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When has a collaborative project fallen through for just one of the manufacturers rather than both or neither of them, and so close the production cycle?
