GTP Cool Wall: Aston Martin DB5

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Aston Martin DB5

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1964 Aston Martin DB5

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Specifications:
* Engine: 3,995 cc (243.8 cu in) Inline-6
* Power: 282 bhp (210 kW) at 5500 rpm
* Torque: 288 lb·ft (390 N·m) at 3850 rpm
* Weight: 1,502 kg (3,310 lb)
* Top Speed: 145 mph (233 km/h)
* 0–60 mph (97 km/h) Acceleration: 7.1 s

Performance data from Motor magazine road test, February 6, 1965.

Optional extras included machine guns, a passenger ejection seat, and a rear bulletproof screen. :sly:​
 
Do not understand why, but can not be convinced about the looks of this one.

Know it is a great car, James Bond, etc...

So ended up at Meh...

(Tastes and colours can not be discussed)
 
The figures are quite interesting ones...

Have a squizz at this TG episode. 3 minutes in will do it...

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Old cars are cool around here. Old cars that are rare as hens teeth and driven by one of the coolest movie characters of all time?

Yeah. I think you know how I voted.

((Even though the Original Bond - the Book Bond - Drove Bentleys.))

Famine: Regarding your 2.4 Honda comparo...Yeah. No. Don't care. Doesn't make a squat of difference to me that they can be outrun by a family car, albeit a pretty damn peppy one. I know that engines have become more efficient, tires have gotten better...that's progress. That's obvious. But speed is not equal to Cool. We know this, because the 9FF GT9, a car capable of well over 200 mi/h, is burning in the pit of Seriously Uncool. And, a monster truck capable of no more than a hundred miles an hour (though it'll hit 60, on dirt, over cars, in less than 5 seconds - or could in the PENDA era...) is nicely chilled in Sub-Zero.
 
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Everyone will think you're a spy, and simply saying your name like James Bond while leaning on this car will make girls panties go flying off and land on your rear view mirror.

Sub-Zero
 
It's an Aston. It's James Bond's car. It's a classic car.

Subzero time a quadrillion +1. There aren't much more subzero cars over this. I'd love to have one in BRG too.
 
Drive that into any Hotel or Casino and i garuntee everybody will look.

I really like the car, Sub Zero
 
SUB ZERO definatly. Saw one in NZ with the plates JB 007. Thats just awesome right there. Plus its a beautiful car
 
Jim Prower
Regarding your Top Gear's 2.4 Honda comparo...Yeah. No. Don't care. Doesn't make a squat of difference to me that they can be outrun by a family car, albeit a pretty damn peppy one. I know that engines have become more efficient, tires have gotten better...that's progress. That's obvious.
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+1 if you would put it against an other '64 car it would be great.

Just for my vote: I never saw one, but would I turn my head more then for a Nissan 300ZX. No, and somehow I believe I would keep looking more at the Nissan. But that remains personal. Shure would take a picture.
 
I actually had a bit of trouble here. I kept thinking about how this car was never really good, unreliable, slow, bad handling. I even thought, I haven't seen the really good Bond flicks, so my hand was hovering over uncool.

Then I realized, holy crap. It's the ASTON MARTIN that JAMES FREAKING BOND drove. Sub zero for sheer audacity.
 
Jim Prower
Famine: Regarding your 2.4 Honda comparo...Yeah. No. Don't care. Doesn't make a squat of difference to me that they can be outrun by a family car, albeit a pretty damn peppy one. I know that engines have become more efficient, tires have gotten better...that's progress. That's obvious. But speed is not equal to Cool. We know this, because the 9FF GT9, a car capable of well over 200 mi/h, is burning in the pit of Seriously Uncool. And, a monster truck capable of no more than a hundred miles an hour (though it'll hit 60, on dirt, over cars, in less than 5 seconds - or could in the PENDA era...) is nicely chilled in Sub-Zero.
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Uhhh... you missed the point somewhat. By quite some margin, I might add.

Famine
The figures are quite interesting ones...
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ty00123
* Power: 282 bhp (210 kW) at 5500 rpm
* Torque: 288 lb·ft (390 N·m) at 3850 rpm
* Weight: 1,502 kg (3,310 lb)
* Top Speed: 145 mph (233 km/h)
* 0–60 mph (97 km/h) Acceleration: 7.1 s

Performance data from Motor magazine road test, February 6, 1965.
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The Accord in the video has less power (220hp to 282hp), a poorer PWR ratio (157hp/tonne to 188hp/tonne), less torque (164lbft to 288lbft) and a poorer 0-60mph time (7.7s to 7.1s) yet was at no point behind the Aston in the drag race.

Which brings us to the point of it. Not that a modern car can beat an older one - that's silly. But why a modern car which is absolutely slower in every measurable respect on paper can beat a faster, older one in reality...

Jeremy Clarkson
Well, let me explain. They were lying!
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Nothing to do with cool or the Cool Wall (see how I didn't mention it?). Just the figures.

Then again, I suppose lying about how fast your car is isn't particularly cool...
 
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It's so cool that pretty much nobody can actually get away with driving one. It's just that hard to match the car's coolness (although there's a gent who commutes in a DB4 around here...)
 
Famine
Uhhh... you missed the point somewhat. By quite some margin, I might add.





The Accord in the video has less power (220hp to 282hp), a poorer PWR ratio (157hp/tonne to 188hp/tonne), less torque (164lbft to 288lbft) and a poorer 0-60mph time (7.7s to 7.1s) yet was at no point behind the Aston in the drag race.

Which brings us to the point of it. Not that a modern car can beat an older one - that's silly. But why a modern car which is absolutely slower in every measurable respect on paper can beat a faster, older one in reality...



Nothing to do with cool or the Cool Wall (see how I didn't mention it?). Just the figures.

Then again, I suppose lying about how fast your car is isn't particularly cool...
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Actually, that really doesn't surprise me much. Y'see...aside from having 40 year-old drivetrain bits and likely an OEM-type clutch plate, as well as original style bias ply tires...American manufacturers in that era lied about power all the time. In fact, they had a name for it.

SAE Gross.

It's actually kinda funny what you could get away with. Didn't have to run full exhaust, could build custom exhaust manifolds, advance or retard the timing to make maximum power, run it on avgas...But, I digress, This has nothing to do with Cool, You're absolutely right.
 
The DB5 is a really beautiful car and an iconic shape being immortalized by those great James Bond movies but cool?
It's obviously cool to most people ( even those unaware or interested in cars ) and so iconic it's almost too obvious and bordering on cliché in my opinion.
The only thing which saves it partly from being a cliché is the relative rarity and enormous value which makes it a rare sight if encountered in real life but still.
The same unfortunately can be said of the E-type ( although not as rare ) which I really loved even as a child ( and still do ).
The definition of cool is subjective ofcourse like taste, but I'd rather prefer something more enigmatic than a car so famous and so closely associated with James Bond that it looks like you're living out your secret James Bond fantasies whilst driving it.
So is it cool? A bit too cool to be truly cool perhaps ( does that even make sense? ) and remember I love this car and the classic James Bond movies as well but I'll go for a less obvious choice, a DBS V8 perhaps and save some money for gadgets.:)
 
The car is absolutly stunning. I caught a glimpse of one in Houston while car spotting. I've been looking for it ever since! And as mentioned several times, James Bond drove it!

It would be unfair to not give this a sub-zero!
 
It's an Aston Martin, and that's cool
It's an old Aston Martin, and that's cool
James Bond drove it, and that's cool
It has Superleggera written on the side, and that's cool.

So, sub-zero.... :D
 
I'm loving it simply because of the prodigous power output from a 4.0L 6cyl, a power output that is oddly not even matched by the Ford Falcon's 4.0L 6cyl today, which has more torque and over a very wide torque band, and a much higher peak power rpm.
What doesn't make sense is how 210kw loses to that Accord on Top Gear posted by Famine.:odd:
 
Paulie
What doesn't make sense is how 210kw loses to that Accord on Top Gear posted by Famine.:odd:
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The car's 46 years old. Even if it's been restored at some point, it's unlikely that the engine still makes those figures. Carburetors soon fall out of tune and keeping all 3 SU's running equally i would imagine to be a constant battle. It also runs on a 46 year old design of tyre, they just don't have the traction available that even a modest all-weather modern tyre does.
 
And it never had that power in the first place. The DB5 Vantage on triple Webers could probably get 280hp (though rated at 310hp), so the triple SU DB5 would have been lucky to see 250 - which, with all other aspects as above taken into account, brings it into the firing line of the Accord despite being 0.6s quicker to 60mph than it on paper.
 

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