GTP Cool Wall: Lamborghini LM002

[neanderthal]

A whole heap of useless


Not a supercar. Or a get you through God forsaken places 4 wheel drive. Cramped interior. Thirsty. Not good enough to fulfill its original raison de entre.


Meh.

 

[Apok]

I would explain in detail why I don't like the hummer H2, but I don't think I need to.

This is basically one step up from a hummer H2 with less bling.
So it's uncool
The engine noise saves it from being seriously uncool.

 

[Famine]

Uncool.

Only because I'm not entirely convinced it actually exists. You never heard about it other than in a sidebar for a review of a different Lamborghini, they rarely ever get spotted, I don't think I've ever read a review on one. It is only ever brought up as a novelty conversation piece/editorial filler.

Who actually owns one? Who's actually seen one?

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[niky]

While Clarkson takes artistic liberties with facts a lot, him actually saying that the LM002 was Italy's answer to the Hummer is way off... the Hummer was actually built because the US Army didn't like the original LM, the Cheetah.

That's right... the LM002's ancestor is responsible for the creation of the Humvee, which is nearly singlehandedly responsible for the 2008 oil crisis.

That's cool.

Hmmm... maybe it's subzero.

Here is an SUV that was so impractical, so ridiculous, that the Hummer was created as a practical alternative.

And practical just isn't cool. But completely impractical is often so.

 

[Pitracer100]

It's a Lambo that goes off-road, enough said.
S-Z

 

[Omnis]

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Wow, you think they could at least give the car a proper detail before going on (inter)national TV. Look at all those spiderwebs at 17 seconds in. Anyway, this car is retarded. It has absolutely no redeeming features at all. Even the V12 is a waste of an engine.

 

[TheCracker]

Hellishly impractical, ridiculously over engined and beautifully ugly. Awesome in a way that an H2 or a Cayenne could only dream of. SZ.

 

[Sureboss]

If a car/object looks like that, yet sounds like that, it is pretty much instantly sub-zero.

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

Sub zero.

 

[Jim Prower]

I'm trying to figure this out...What exactly makes it sub-zero? it's expensive, unreliable, doesn't do what it's supposed to...and is ridiculously expensive to own, while emitting the same "macho-man" vibes so many other cars have been lauded for. Hummer, for example. That car's not cool.

As I see it, it's a more expensive, rarer, uglier Hummer H2, with less reliability. Does this mean that if I put a Lamborghini V12 in my Nova, it'd immediately be Sub-Zero, too?

 

[Time_Attack]

It'd be a big step in the right direction.

 

[TheBook]

Does this mean that if I put a Lamborghini V12 in my Nova, it'd immediately be Sub-Zero, too?

Yes.

In this case, though, it's a massive truck (👎) with a Lambo V12 (👍). Meh.

 

[Philly]

I'm trying to figure out how the addition of hummer to an equation somehow makes it cooler...

The H1 is freaking sweet as a huge go-anywhere, do anything truck thing.

Old Lamborghinis are freaking sweet for being insane supercars not for the weak.

Of course they add up to super awesome.

 

[maximumattack]

Sub-Zero

 

[TheCracker]

I'm trying to figure this out...What exactly makes it sub-zero? it's expensive, unreliable, doesn't do what it's supposed to...and is ridiculously expensive to own, while emitting the same "macho-man" vibes so many other cars have been lauded for. Hummer, for example. That car's not cool.

As I see it, it's a more expensive, rarer, uglier Hummer H2, with less reliability. Does this mean that if I put a Lamborghini V12 in my Nova, it'd immediately be Sub-Zero, too?

There's no evidence that i know of, apart from the generic stereotypes about Italian cars, to say that it's unreliable. It does do what it's supposed to do - it's a decent off-roader for the conditions it was built for (sand-dunes) And whilst it might be expensive to run, you have to remember it was built for very rich people to own, so that element is irrelevant. It came out decades before the H2 and is a very different concept, even if the end product is similar. The H2 is all about the bling and driving around in a vehicle loosely inspired by a military vehicle. The LM002 was built as a military vehicle even if it was never sold as one and is owned by people who probably have their own army. You can compare the LM002 to the Humvee or H1, not the H2.

Your Nova wasn't built in Sant'Agata. Putting a Lambo V12 in it would make it as cool or uncool as any other engine swap project.

 

[Ardius]

I'm trying to figure this out...What exactly makes it sub-zero? it's expensive, unreliable, doesn't do what it's supposed to...and is ridiculously expensive to own, while emitting the same "macho-man" vibes so many other cars have been lauded for. Hummer, for example. That car's not cool.

As I see it, it's a more expensive, rarer, uglier Hummer H2, with less reliability. Does this mean that if I put a Lamborghini V12 in my Nova, it'd immediately be Sub-Zero, too?

You're thinking too logically about it.

Its quite simple really, its a rediculous car and its a Lamborghini. Sub zero.

 

[Fastas]

Ehh? It looks rubbish. Even the Land Rover 90 has better styling (and this looks like it copied it).

So it has a special badge, big deal; how would you rate this then? It looks way better.

Give me the Bowler over this any day.

 

[TheCracker]

Ehh? It looks rubbish. Even the Land Rover 90 has better styling (and this looks like it copied it).

It looks functional. Like all military hardware.

 

[Fastas]

It looks functional. Like all military hardware.

you implied functional and Lamborghini in the same sentence.

 

[analog]

you implied functional and Lamborghini in the same sentence.

You're the one supplying us with a picture of a functional Lambo tractor, so therefor Lamborghini's can be functional as you yourself proved.
The LM002 started as a military vehicle ( LM stands for Lamborghini Militaria ) mainly for the US-army and was meant to be powered by a Chrysler V8 but obviously the US didn't want to buy the successor to the Willy's Jeep from a foreign country and especially not from Italy as it was partly governed by a communist party at that time.

So yes, it is largely functional in concept but since the deal was off they still had a fully developed off-roader which they couldn't sell as it was.
So Lambo being Lambo, they put the V12 from the Countach in, quickly redesigned the spartan interior with tons of leather and sold it as an exclusive 4X4 as an addition to their sportscar-division as a gloriously pointless dinosaur to get some money back from their investment.

Is it cool? Not cool in the same way as a Espada or Islero are cool, meaning you could drive them anywere and not having to explain their obvious charm.
The LM002 will never be considered today as a logical thing to build and being confused with a Humvee ( although far more thirsty ) doesn't make it a cool choice perhaps to the general public.
But the fact it exists in the first place, and not exactly conventionally attractive and ridiculously macho in appearance makes it sub-zero in my eyes at least, although logic doesn't apply here.

 

[Vince_Fiero]

A sports car manufacturer making an off roader.
Never understood it, still do not understand it, but can not help to find this one cool.

 

[Fastas]

You're the one supplying us with a picture of a functional Lambo tractor, so therefor Lamborghini's can be functional as you yourself proved.

Yes, my point being if you want a functional Lambo with off road capability you would go for the tractor; better looking and more functional.

 

[TheCracker]

Yes, my point being if you want a functional Lambo with off road capability you would go for the tractor; better looking and more functional.

Looks are totally subjective. The tractor is more functional for doing what other than ploughing fields?

A sports car manufacturer making an off roader.
Never understood it, still do not understand it

How about a tractor manufacturer making a supercar?

 

[Azure Flare]

I say Sub-Zero, simply because it exists

 

[Fastas]

Looks are totally subjective. The tractor is more functional for doing what other than ploughing fields?

Cruising and generally looking a whole lot cooler than the 'jeep hummer' thing.

 

[Northstar]

Cruising and generally looking a whole lot cooler than the 'jeep hummer' thing.

Who cruises in a tractor?

 

[Fastas]

Who cruises in a tractor?

Given the choice between the LM002 and a Lambo tractor, I would. 👍

 

[TheCracker]

Cruising and generally looking a whole lot cooler than the 'jeep hummer' thing.

Well that's West Yorkshire for you. Driving a tractor = looking cool.

 

[buickgnx88]

They strive to be the midwesterners from the US.

"Dang, look at Jethro in his fancy new Lamborgeenee tractor! Wish I dun could be like him!"

 

[Fastas]

Well that's West Yorkshire for you. Driving a tractor = looking cool.

oh, big man. 👎

Just because it has a Lambo badge doesn't make it cool. This car has mega-fail written all over it. It looks crap, it has no practical or functional purpose to speak of and by the sounds of it, the manufacturer wasn't overly enamoured with it. It probably can't do 'off-road' either.

Being objective about it, it doesn't stand up against any Land/Range Rover, or the Bowler for looks or function. It doesn't perform particularly well and the original client washed their hands of it.

How is it cool?