GTP WTAC Week 61 : Concept Cars Circa 2001

[Detroitbb]

GTP WTAC Week 61 : Concept Cars Circa 2001​

*** This is pretty straight-forward: We are going to be exploring two concept cars from the year 2001. We're all quite familiar with the Mazda RX-8 and this is the first version shown to the public to bear the RX-8 name (it was an evolution of the Mazda RX-EVOLV concept car shown in 1999). The Hyundai Clix is much less known to us in the WTAC. I've never driven it before and I'm guessing that not many others have either. It's 4WD (unlike the rear wheel drive Mazda) and displays a striking exterior body that's fairly appealing. And given the drivetrain, I'm sure it handles quite well too. ***




1. Track : Circuit de la Comunitat Valenciana Ricardo Tormo

2. Cars : Hyundai Clix Concept '01 & Mazda RX-8 Concept (Type-I) '01

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IMPORTANT ! This is a combined times challenge: you'll need to run both cars; rankings will be made based on your combined times.

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3. Cars specifics:

- Transmission: either
- Tires: S2 / S2
- TCS : at your disposal
- ASM : off
- Active Steering : off
- Driving Physics : Professional

All in-game quick-tune options are at your disposal (Press Triangle when selecting your car to add the car to your favorites and tinker with any available settings).

Hybrid cars, the use of CFW tuning or any other way of cheating (such as the Action Replay for PSP) is forbidden...

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4. Duration of the challenges : this challenge will start Monday July 18th 4:00 pm GMT+2 and will end Monday July 25th 3:59 pm GMT+2 (one week !)

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5. Time submission :

You'll have to post your Ghost Replay Data + Photo before Monday July 25th 3:59 pm GMT+2. If you miss the deadline, your laptimes won't be in the website.

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6. Rules :

You'll have to follow the Host and Compete in a GT Planet Time Attack Challenge (GTPTAC) You'll have to follow the Host and Compete in a GT Planet Time Attack Challenge (GTPTAC) ! Just to remind you :
Clean or Dirty lap :
- Colliding with or using walls, fences, cones or other obstacle is forbidden. All times submitted must be 100% wall free.
- Two wheels (except when airborne, where the vertical projection of the car onto the track counts) must be in contact with the tarmac which does not include all green/grassed/sanded/graveled areas.
- NO SPARKS! (this does not include 'bottoming' the car out on the tarmac or rumble strips; but does include walls/barriers)
Rumble/ripple strips :
- having two wheels/tires on a corner's inside rumble strips and two off track is considered unclean
- having two wheels/tires on a corner's outside rumble strips and two off track is considered clean.


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7. LeaderBoards

The leaderboards will be on the website

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8. Current session points leaders:


Place - Competitor - Points

1st #l-l Dan360######.l35
2nd #-l pvr77########34
3rd #l-l Detroitbb#####)29
4th #l-l MVR08#######l22
5th #l-l red ice######&l17
6th #l-l vaughan#####$l11


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[Detroitbb]

I took 'em both out for a spin and got times of 1'54 (Hyundai) and 1'55 (Mazda). I'm actually surprised that the rear-wheel drive Mazda is able to keep up with the Hyundai Clix. I thought that it would be at least a few seconds behind the 4WD Korean car.

 

[pvr77]

I was also quite surprised at the performance of the RX-8 compared to the Clix. The Clix has a real solid feel on the road for a smaller car, I like this car a lot. Same initial times from me...

Btw Detroit, if I remember correctly from our last visit to this track the blue part of the rumble strip was considered as off the track, right?

 

[Detroitbb]

Btw Detroit, if I remember correctly from our last visit to this track the blue part of the rumble strip was considered as off the track, right?

You're talking about the little blue strip that is just beyond the red/orange rumble strips, right? If so, then... yeah, consider that to be like the dirt or grass - off tarmac and 'out of bounds'.

 

[pvr77]

^Got it! 👍

 

[red ice]

L-F tuning:
1'58.xxx Clix
1'59.xxx RX8

Hoping to chop off 2 seconds at least!

 

[Detroitbb]

I currently have a low 1'53 with the Clix and a low 1'54 with the RX-8.

I almost forgot how much I like this track - it has a good mix of turns in both directions and a great variety of high, medium, and low speed turns. The only thing that would make it better would be some elevation changes.

 

[red ice]

 

[Detroitbb]

Nice shots, red ice!

I took some photos with GT4 last night, but I used the Clubman Stage Route 5 (since the track we're using was only in two of Polyphony Digital's games - GT PSP and Tourist Trophy).

 

[Detroitbb]

1'52.9xx with the Clix and 1'53.6xx with the RX-8.

 

[pvr77]

Got 1'52.4xx with the Clix.

No real time for the RX-8

 

[Detroitbb]

Got 1'52.4xx with the Clix.

That quite fast. I don't think I can even get close to 1'52.5xx (let alone beat your 1'52.4xx).

👍

 

[Detroitbb]

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I took nearly the same shot that red ice did (the Clix side profile)... and we both did it on the same day. Once I saw his shot, I knew that I'd be posting mine as well!

 

[Dan360]

I started running both cars for the first time last night, so I had to catch up. I skipped the 'default tuning' phase and went on to medium/heavy tuning:

Mazda - 1'51.8xx
Hyundai - 1'51.5xx

Note: I set a 1'51.3xx with the Mazda, but I went into the green run-off area twice in that lap. I'm sure I can hit that target by the end of the week.

 

[Detroitbb]

Wow, Dan.

...I'm nearly speechless!

 

[Dan360]

Wow, Dan.

...I'm nearly speechless!

He he... thanks! I just hope that I didn't reach my limits with both cars.

A small tip from me:

When I ran the Hyundai Clix I found that avoiding 2nd gear and keeping to 3rd on the slower corners improved my lap times by a few tenths. This saves time lost from changing gears. That, and a better traction off the corner.

 

[Detroitbb]

A small tip from me:

When I ran the Hyundai Clix I found that avoiding 2nd gear and keeping to 3rd on the slower corners improved my lap times by a few tenths. This saves time lost from changing gears. That, and a better traction off the corner.

Yeah, I already do that and I'm still WAY slower than you first runs!

 

[Nero9]

I did a 1'58 with the Clix and a 1'59 with the RX-8. I hope that I can chop down a few seconds!

 

[red ice]

I did a 1'58 with the Clix and a 1'59 with the RX-8. I hope that I can chop down a few seconds!

Nice! somehow my times are closer to you than everyone else. 👍👍

I took nearly the same shot that red ice did (the Clix side profile)... and we both did it on the same day. Once I saw his shot, I knew that I'd be posting mine as well!​

Nice shots detroitbb! I'm still waiting for the RX-8 to show up in the used car dealerships to get a photo. ​

 

[red ice]

improved my RX-8 Time!!!
1'56.xxx
but improving my sloppy lines might give me a 1'55.xxx

 

[Detroitbb]

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[Detroitbb]

I sort of ran out of free time in the past couple of days, but I did have about 15 minutes to run laps last night. Unfortunately, I was unable to best my previous times with either car. C'est la vie!



Hyundai Clix: 1'52.917

Mazda RX-8: 1'53.632

combined time: 3'46.549




Get ready for next week's challenge at the scenic Grand Canyon!

 

[red ice]

WTAC week 61
Can't reach anywhere the fastest lap times that you guys already set.
I think its my choice of driving lines that made me slower.

Course: Circuit de la Comunitat Valenciana Ricardo Tormo / Forward
Vehicle: Mazda RX-8 Concept (Type-I) '01
Time: 1'56.652
Professional
S2 / S2

Course: Circuit de la Comunitat Valenciana Ricardo Tormo / Forward
Vehicle: Hyundai Clix Concept '01
Time: 1'57.185
Professional
S2 / S2

Combined Time:
3'53.837

 

[Dan360]

Yesterday I managed to improve my times a bit with both cars, but I don't think I hit my limits with the Mazda. With enough time, I think a 1'50.xxx is possible with the RX-8.


Hyundai Clix Concept '01 - 1'51.441

Mazda RX-8 Concept (Type-I) '01 - 1'51.139

Combined time: 3'42.580

 

[MVR08]

This is the track of my first WTAC so the circle is complete now

This cars are pretty even, they are capable of very similar lap times on this track (even though I thought the Clix would be considerable faster) they both can reach below 1'50.5 with a perfect lap.

My Entry..

Hyundai Clix Concept '01: 1'50.681

Mazda RX-8 Concept (Type-I) '01: 1'50.739

 

[Nero9]

My camera is broken so I can't take a picture of my PSP screen. Oh well...

 

[MVR08]

He he... thanks! I just hope that I didn't reach my limits with both cars.

A small tip from me:

When I ran the Hyundai Clix I found that avoiding 2nd gear and keeping to 3rd on the slower corners improved my lap times by a few tenths. This saves time lost from changing gears. That, and a better traction off the corner.

I discovered that too and that was the only way to reach 1`50.xxx times for me...

 

[Detroitbb]

My camera is broken so I can't take a picture of my PSP screen. Oh well...

If this happens with next week's challenge, just post your ghost replays and PM me and I'll take the photos for you and post them up. Just make sure this all happens before the deadline!

👍

 

[Detroitbb]

MVR08 did it again - another ultra-fast submission that was only really challenged by Dan360. They were only about a second apart this week as we possibly enter the last challenge of this racing session. Dan is sitting at 42 points and will win the overall championship if he finishes on the podium for Week 62.

pvr77, being idled this week, has slipped in the overall standings from 2nd to 3rd. But he can easily take the silver back in the next challenge as I stink at rally events! Of course, I will be keeping my eyes on red ice as he is a rally-master of the highest order.



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This week's results:

1st - MVR08###l. (3'41.420)###[8 pts]

2nd - Dan360##$l (3'42.580)###[7 pts]

3rd - Detroitbb#$. (3'46.549)###[6 pts]
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### 4th - red ice###.ll (3'53.837)##$[5 pts]



*Honorable mentions go out to pvr77 and Nero9 - both competed with us this week, but were unable to officially submit their times.


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Current session points leaders:


Place - Competitor - Points

1st #l-l Dan360######.l42
2nd #-l Detroitbb#####)35#

3rd #l-l pvr77########34#

4th #l-l MVR08#######l30
5th #l-l red ice######&l22
6th #l-l vaughan#####$l11


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[pvr77]

Hi everyone, I haven't picked up my PSP since last wednesday and things look to be busy until at least friday. I hope i'll be able to get some laps down on the weekend.

Btw, really blistering time MVR!