GTP_WRS Week 162 : Nailed It

[EDK]

18.932
Going for quick t1 isn't the best idea.
Else 18.764 but .004 slower at the line.
Another .1 is possible for me but not too easy

Right, I think the split is a very relative thing this week.

What are you using for a tune?

 

[8l23ub]

19.164

 

[EDK]

I'm loving all the sharing of tunes this week, it helps the guys who don't know what they are doing with that.

 

[Meister Fetz]

Right, I think the split is a very relative thing this week.

What are you using for a tune?

Mine. Sorry, joking.
Can share it when I'm back home.
Basically max/min DF, higher front with the usual min springs/dampers max rollbar and around 25:75 torque split

 

[EDK]

Mine. Sorry, joking.
Can share it when I'm back home.
Basically max/min DF, higher front with the usual min springs/dampers max rollbar and around 25:75 torque split

Thanks. 👍

Not trying to call you out specifically, but 12 guys have posted splits, a couple said they are using one of my tunes, and the rest are not sharing.

We are normally very selective with tuning combos, as they often affect participation.

With this one, I figure a LOT of people ran the Triple Mix and likely have a good base tune worked out for themselves. It just would be nice if people would be a bit more transparent.

 

[Jfrod]

18.936

 

[8l23ub]

Thanks. 👍

Not trying to call you out specifically, but 12 guys have posted splits, a couple said they are using one of my tunes, and the rest are not sharing.

We are normally very selective with tuning combos, as they often affect participation.

With this one, I figure a LOT of people ran the Triple Mix and likely have a good base tune worked out for themselves. It just would be nice if people would be a bit more transparent.

I'm one of the ones who doesn't know what I'm doing so I kinda like these 👍

Went with the basic Max/min downforce , zero camber, front LSD on minimum and ballast all the way at the back (is this allowed?).
Messed with gear ratios and will edit those in when I get home

19.067

 

[EDK]

I'm one of the ones who doesn't know what I'm doing so I kinda like these 👍

Went with the basic Max/min downforce , zero camber, front LSD on minimum and ballast all the way at the back (is this allowed?).
Messed with gear ratios and will edit those in when I get home

19.067

Ballast at the back is most definitely allowed, it's just not common to see people doing as we don't have a lot of tuning weeks that require ballast to be added. It's kind of specific to this spec.

 

[Napalm_LT]

19.217

EDK tune

 

[DDiamond]

20.584

20.150


Using Kev's Low DF; dropped the front to 150 . Really don't know why, lol. Thanks, Kev.

Will prob submit with this...out of shape.

 

[EDK]

Using Kev's Low DF; dropped the front to 150 . Really don't know why, lol.

Well, that would make the car less taily on turn in and faster in a straight line. I have it turned up to make the turn in sharper, especially for the esses around the T1 Split marker. The other turns are manageable as point and shoot.

 

[DDiamond]

Well, that would make the car less taily on turn in and faster in a straight line. I have it turned up to make the turn in sharper, especially for the esses around the T1 Split marker. The other turns are manageable as point and shoot.

I may have just made a typo.....I'll correct that and see if I can get a few more tenths off before the deadline.

Thanks for the info.

 

[steven]

edit

19.463

Sorry Kevin using your tune on high DF.

DF in the middle ish and torque at 25.75.

 

[Spirit]

I think tuning combos are good avenues for people who don't know how to tune, as they have an open door to discuss different things and ask for help if they aren't sure. The best way to learn it is to do it. I'm sure most everyone would be willing to assist someone who isn't sure, myself included.

That and controller users can tweak out understeer thus closing the gap to the wheels.

 

[EDK]

I think tuning combos are good avenues for people who don't know how to tune, as they have an open door to discuss different things and ask for help if they aren't sure. The best way to learn it is to do it. I'm sure most everyone would be willing to assist someone who isn't sure, myself included.

That and controller users can tweak out understeer thus closing the gap to the wheels.

Totally agree. I don't really like getting on a "post your damn tune" soap box, but when the majority of the posts are splits and that's it, it really does not open up those discussions.

I like to make my own tune, but then I also like to see what others are doing, as it gives me ideas for different things to try.

That's similar to what happens with split posting. If someone sees they are losing a ton in a given sector, they go and try to figure it out.

Since the split posting is likely to be very limited (and somewhat deceptive) this week, I figured I would try and encourage folks to post some tunes.

 

[StanNz]

I tried @EDK min df tune last night but was half a sec off best lap. Not necessarily down to the tune but maybe not enough time getting used to it.
Best lap was set with, I think, @EDK tune from triple mix.
65/60
Min Springs
Min dampers/extension
Max ARB
Zero toe/camber
5/15/5
5/30/5
10/90 torque
170/300 df
52kgs at +26
Will check transmission when I get home but set as 6 sp and only using 5. Dropping to 2nd gear shortly on 2nd and final turn.

 

[Meister Fetz]

28.891
Well, those .025 have already been a serious improvement at the line for me now. a bit more to come up with. Hopefully
Tune:
85/80
Springs+dampers min/roll bars max
Toe -0.12/-0.08
No camber
Bb4/7

LSD
5/20/5
6/15/5
22:78

Ballast -50
DF max/min

Tranny in the picture but final gear 2.990.
Other way around. Accidentally but works

 

[GTP_randy]

Thanks for sharing @Meister Fetz . But you may want to fix your split,your about 10 seconds off dude.

 

[Meister Fetz]

Thanks for sharing @Meister Fetz . But you may want to fix your split,your about 10 seconds off dude.

Well, it's all about t2, you know
18.891

 

[EDK]

28.891
Well, those .025 have already been a serious improvement at the line for me now. a bit more to come up with. Hopefully
Tune:
85/80
Springs+dampers min/roll bars max
Toe -0.12/-0.08
No camber
Bb4/7

LSD
5/20/5
6/15/5
22:78

Ballast -50
DF max/min

Tranny in the picture but final gear 2.990.
Other way around. Accidentally but works

Thanks for posting your tune. 👍

 

[Meister Fetz]

Thanks for posting your tune. 👍

Hey, i basically always share my tune...
This time it's not 100% what I used for my best laps but a way easier to drive one and it's not slower. Just missed my lap by .007 using this. It's for sure really fast in t1 but a bit loose (still great) in the final two turns. Best t1 on exactly this was .722 and still those .007 too slow at the line.
Difference is the RH, LSD and toe setting and they are very small yet do a huge difference to the behavior.
Just thought that it's a help for people who don't know what to do with tuning and I'm sure that's a real "happy-maker" in this case. On my original you'll have to drift into turns and catch it with nice blue tires before the apex.

 

[EDK]

Hey, i basically always share my tune...

Yeah, I know you are really good about that and so are some other guys. That's why I was a little surprised that only 2 tunes had been posted, and they were both mine.

 

[Spirit]

If I find time this weekend (car broke again) I will see what I can do on a controller and share that tune as well. 👍

 

[Meister Fetz]

Yeah, I know you are really good about that and so are some other guys. That's why I was a little surprised that only 2 tunes had been posted, and they were both mine.

That's what's it all about here. We should help each other to get faster. And that's why I shared an easier drivable tune then I really use. I want to help and that's wat easier while just a tiny bit slower. And good for a poser split
#NothingComparesToBeingWithin1SecOff theLaptimeRecordInAXBowRInRealLifeOnTheFullCircuit

 

[roamer2629]

Got 5 days for this and I'm not afraid to use them I'm using Stefan's tune, I usually go with the easy home field advantage
Gave up tuning after joining WRS and realizing I was crap at it, I also stopped thinking I was fast ...

 

[Napalm_LT]

Just had .000 and mesed S2
Got my best lap during first 30 min. yesterday and couldnt improve within 2,5 hours today. I got better S1 almost every lap but couldnt repeat S2 time . And it wasnt my best S2 yesterday ...

 

[Meister Fetz]

LAP GUIDE:
Sector1:
Turn1:
There is a service road on the left that's to be used as brake marker. Right in the middle of it you should be fullly on the brakes and start your turn early and fast coasting onto the inside curb with the inner tires.
!!!!Don't hit the yellow sausage curb!!!!
If you've hit the entry right you'll be able to go onto the throttle before the apex and easy get the right rotation to catch the car (already on full acceleration) with the outside tires onto the exit curb. Try not to go over it with any tire but use the camber it offers to get the max out here.
Apex speed 110km/h+ (perfect 113/114)
Turn2:
Follow the very left side out of turn1 and start your turn before you start braking.
I estimate the right braking point is around 30m before the white line, but I've no defined brake point.
Coast into it fairly too fast and get quiet slow around the center with a short lift off the throttle that gives some extra rotation.
Perfectly you should follow the right curb and start turning into
Sector2:
Before you reach t1 from the very right. (If you go midtrack here you'll have up to .1 benefit at t1 but already messed up your lap...) NO LIFT UP TO THE FINAL TURNS ALLOWED!!
Hook inside tires inside of the curbs and my tranny is just perfect here. Shift to 4th when entering turn3, up to 5th while changing direction and up to 6th when leaving the final curb of the esses.
Quality marker is the white line after the esses under the bridge where you should be above 210km/h (perfectly 214-215)
Now relax because the real important part is just about to follow
Start turning from the very outside short after 100m sign while already heading into the turn and slightly braking but more coasting into. Try to get onto full throttle around the apex and do not loose rotation of the car for the final turn!!
For the final I brake slightly but early and take inside curbs with inside tires (like turn1 - NO YELLOW SAUSAGE) exit is very important and perfectly you should be so fast you think you fly off. Curbs and short shift to 4th will catch you...

 

[Thematic]

I pretty much never tune. But for these occasions I sometimes throw some switches. This is more fun than the default, and I have to surmise it is fast..er.

(decimal points are like, tiny)
rh/rh
85/50
12 / 12 37
2 2
2 2
3 3
camber zero
toe front zero, toe rear 0 05
brake balance 4/1
transmission auto 240 km/h (last turn in 4th)
in tq front 5 in tq rear 6
ac 30
br 12 / 7
torque distibution 30/70
df front 321, df rear 300
ballast position zero

T1: 19.713

msg joined!

Turn2:
Follow the very left side out of turn1 and start your turn before you start braking.
I estimate the right braking point is around 30m before the white line, but I've no defined brake point.

Wow.

What line is that?

 

[EDK]

brake balance 4/1

Your countryman @MadMax would like to have a word with you!

 

[Meister Fetz]

see previous message

Is there no line under the bridge before turn2? If there's none take the bridge as reference