GTP_WRS Week 18 : Rosso Prancer

[dranddad]

35.512
36.373

 

[Never2fast1]

I don't have any splits but have an update on settings that might work for some. What I'm trying to calm down a bit is the car's unexpected inclination to rotate around itself and I doubt that a tune will get rid of this all together but the following seems to help a little for me

BB 0
TCS 0 <- set this to your preference
RH 72/82 mm 2.83/3.23 inches
NF 2.95/2.95
ARB 7/5
DFC 55/55 (stock)
DFR 85/85 (stock)
CA 3.0/3.0 (stock)
Toe Out 0.15/In 0.10
DF 325/700
LSD 10/30/20
GB Custom with speed =174mph/280kmh

Really recommend trying @EDK's gearbox as he has way more of a clue with that than I do and as tuning isn't my thing at all please take the above with a pinch of salt as some of it is stabbing in the dark

Edit: I tried BB forward and back but both seem to undo whatever setting you make to the suspension and aero. BB- caused the car to nose dive and upset an already precarious balance and BB+ made the car way too tail happy for me.

I am also no tuner, but am learning. As always I was using @EDK transmission, I did find if looking for a little more rear stability, raising the rear downforce helped a lot with that, and doesn't really seem to effect speed because you are able to go through the corners much smoother.

I also lowered all suspension parts to the lowest, helped with grip but it was very unstable if you caught a curb. I know I need to play with these but some suggestions for people trying to figure it out.

 

[EDK]

I am also no tuner, but am learning. As always I was using @EDK transmission, I did find if looking for a little more rear stability, raising the rear downforce helped a lot with that, and doesn't really seem to effect speed because you are able to go through the corners much smoother.

I also lowered all suspension parts to the lowest, helped with grip but it was very unstable if you caught a curb. I know I need to play with these but some suggestions for people trying to figure it out.

I would suggest tuning LSD before moving those other parts. And make the car work with low aero, because someone will.

Take all the goofy PD toe settings out, take out all the aero, tune the LSD to suit. Then start layering in new settings.

 

[Argon]

I would suggest tuning LSD before moving those other parts. And make the car work with low aero, because someone will.

Take all the goofy PD toe settings out, take out all the aero, tune the LSD to suit. Then start layering in new settings.

You mean like my tune?

 

[EDK]

You mean like my tune?

Yes, but I would try a lower middle number on the LSD, that looks much too high to be useful.

 

[Argon]

Yes, but I would try a lower middle number on the LSD, that looks much too high to be useful.

Thanks, will give that a go 👍

 

[andrew1990]

35.568
36.282

 

[roamer2629]

What are people’s thoughts on using traction control?

I’m finding its a must

Ahh the endless debate of traction control. If you can learn to drive without it you are faster, and have better control of the car, but if you feel you need it, than use it. I use to use it but have learned not to, even with a controller, and am faster because of it.

We can only argue about the car being faster with or without TC. The other aspect, if a certain driver is faster with it, is really up to the driver and his/her skills. So the unavoidable answer to the issue is no, the car is positively not faster with TC.
This is a tuning week, so I would suggest trying to take advantadge of it by using setup to moderate oversteer under throttle. High rear downforce can help, and it won't be as taxing as TC.

 

[Never2fast1]

We can only argue about the car being faster with or without TC. The other aspect, if a certain driver is faster with it, is really up to the driver and his/her skills. So the unavoidable answer to the issue is no, the car is positively not faster with TC.
This is a tuning week, so I would suggest trying to take advantadge of it by using setup to moderate oversteer under throttle. High rear downforce can help, and it won't be as taxing as TC.

I actually agree with you, for some people they are faster with it on, now from my experience I personally did get faster once I learned to drive without it, but not everyone is me. 👍

 

[MikeyLCR]

Okay first go at this, going to have to try and put some laps in tomorrow as I have family coming Thursday, will probably be off the PS until Monday

35.816
37.143

 

[Espial]

Welp, I drove about 40 laps today with different tunes and so far the mix @Argon with @EDK gears seems to be the fastest, at least for me.

I was able to go almost 1sec faster than my previous best and according to my optimal (which is a b:censored:h) there's still at least 0.7s left in there for me.

35.494
36.101

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Guys I’ve cocked up somewhere along the line.

It has bugged me all day at work as to why I somehow was topping the splits board and couldn’t get my head round why knowone was getting near my first split time. I’ve come home and got to the bottom of it and found my hp was up at 590. God knows what’s gone on there as I go right down the board hitting default at the start of every new event so can only assume I missed that one.

Obviously I’ve rectified it to the correct setting and I’m just glad I’ve spotted it and not after submission

I’ve just run a lap to post new split times and obviously put myself somewhere I should be

Once again sorry guys

35.531
37.275

 

[Never2fast1]

Guys I’ve cocked up somewhere along the line.

It has bugged me all day at work as to why I somehow was topping the splits board and couldn’t get my head round why knowone was getting near my first split time. I’ve come home and got to the bottom of it and found my hp was up at 590. God knows what’s gone on there as I go right down the board hitting default at the start of every new event so can only assume I missed that one.

Obviously I’ve rectified it to the correct setting and I’m just glad I’ve spotted it and not after submission

I’ve just run a lap to post new split times and obviously put myself somewhere I should be

Once again sorry guys

35.531
37.275

It happens to everyone, at least you caught it before you submitted it. 👍

 

[dranddad]

There are a lot of bugs, noticed brake bias can zero, at Blue Moon I would be giving it the beans in 3rd and I've had it change to 2nd bouncing off the limiter.

There are others too with replays and the like.

 

[Strax]

An hour of testing today with @Argon 's tune, but with TCS 3 because I can't control the car otherwise, my right finger isn't sensitive enough. Lots of improvement in all sectors, optimum says I can shave an entire second off my latest best lap.

Problem is...never managed to line them up in a single lap, I always had to screw up something but I'm getting there, hopefully...

 

[Argon]

Update on the tune after getting some advice from @EDK (thanks Kevin) I knocked the accelerator sensitivity on the LSD back to 17 and it made a huge difference to being able to get the power down out of the chicanes so the tune now looks like

BB 0
TCS 0 <- set this to your preference
RH 72/82 mm 2.83/3.23 inches
NF 2.95/2.95
ARB 7/5
DFC 55/55 (stock)
DFR 85/85 (stock)
CA 3.0/3.0 (stock)
Toe Out 0.15/In 0.10
DF 325/700
LSD 10/17/20
Use EDK's gearbox which will be much better than I can suggest

New splits after 3 laps!

35.332
36.071

 

[Argon]

Guys I’ve cocked up somewhere along the line.

It has bugged me all day at work as to why I somehow was topping the splits board and couldn’t get my head round why knowone was getting near my first split time. I’ve come home and got to the bottom of it and found my hp was up at 590. God knows what’s gone on there as I go right down the board hitting default at the start of every new event so can only assume I missed that one.

Obviously I’ve rectified it to the correct setting and I’m just glad I’ve spotted it and not after submission

I’ve just run a lap to post new split times and obviously put myself somewhere I should be

Once again sorry guys

Trust me most of us have been there. Glad you caught it

 

[Turbo Racer 48]

37.898
39.972

Initial splits for the board - all fully stock with TCS/BB 0- after 113 miles (including c40 on Circuit Experience in the same car).

Always liked Monza in GT6 and glad to see its very similiar in GTS line wise etc.

Really enjoying the car and track and being able to run clean consistent laps for the most part. So far the car has been behaving itself mostly suggesting I should be going faster perhaps !

Looking forward to taking more time off as adopt @Argon 's tune and @EDK 's gearing.

 

[RuddRacer]

Initial splits using the @Argon / @EDK setup.

35.291
36.265

 

[EDK]

This is the rest of a Ferrari tune that I slapped together. Not too refined, but hopefully someone finds it useful.

RH 2.76 / 2.91
Springs 2.9/2.8
ARB 7/8
Damp comp 56/54
Damp ext 86/84
Camber 3/3
Toe 0/out 0.10

Aero 315/700

LSD 5/10/15

Trans final far right, top speed far left, set.

2664
2062
1761
1557
1388
1242

Final 3400

 

[turnupdaheat]

Slower 1st split but quicker everywhere else.

35.307
35.789

 

[Nerazzurri]

Update on the tune after getting some advice from @EDK (thanks Kevin) I knocked the accelerator sensitivity on the LSD back to 17 and it made a huge difference to being able to get the power down out of the chicanes so the tune now looks like

BB 0
TCS 0 <- set this to your preference
RH 72/82 mm 2.83/3.23 inches
NF 2.95/2.95
ARB 7/5
DFC 55/55 (stock)
DFR 85/85 (stock)
CA 3.0/3.0 (stock)
Toe Out 0.15/In 0.10
DF 325/700
LSD 10/17/20
Use EDK's gearbox which will be much better than I can suggest

New splits after 3 laps!

35.332
36.071

That explains the issue I’ve been having with getting the power down out of the first chicane! I can’t wait to get back on this on Thurs with the new settings

 

[shoenboggie]

Wow, this car is a handful...good under braking though.

Had 30 minutes tonight to work on a quick tune for 5 runs at this with lots to gain.

35.626
36.485

Tune: BB -2, TC 0

RH 2.28/4.02
Hz 3.48/2.90
ARB 8/6
Comp 59/52
Rebound 82/90
Camber 1.7/2.8
Toe out .15/in .23
Diff 5/5/50
DF 350/720

EDK’s gear box is very good!!!

 

[Gravitron]

Finally back home with the wheel. Can't drive with the DS4, I'm awful.

Using @EDK's tune 100%. BB 0 First 20 laps or so. Lesmo's are killing me, I think, as I've only seen a tenth better in sector 2. Been over a tenth quicker in sector 1 and I know this final sector is pretty lame, but it's still early.

35.255
36.615

Having fun with the combo though!

 

[Never2fast1]

Used @Argon with @EDK gears, knocked a full second off after 15 lap stint.

Tomorrow if I get chance i will try edk's tune and see what happens.

36.092
37.484

 

[ColinNZ]

Stole @EDK transmission again and gave it another go. Ran into a penalty or two at the usual places, but eventually put in a much better lap. Now to set the car up to be faster out of every corner.

35.933
36.787

 

[EDK]

Finally back home with the wheel. Can't drive with the DS4, I'm awful.

Using @EDK's tune 100%. BB 0 First 20 laps or so. Lesmo's are killing me, I think, as I've only seen a tenth better in sector 2. Been over a tenth quicker in sector 1 and I know this final sector is pretty lame, but it's still early.

35.255
36.615

Having fun with the combo though!

I was running BB of -2.

 

[Gravitron]

I was running BB of -2.

Okay..it braked so well at 0, could be better toward the front.

 

[NielsG]

Second session:

35.415
36.542

Still on default settings except for the tranny trick and TCS at 2 in the first chikane and then at TC 0 for the rest of the lap.

 

[billyjoebobx]

Mama Mia that's Italian
Using Argon's suspension with EDK's tranny and LSD settings, BB-2 👍

35.360
36.123