GTR 07 Handling

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sichigo15
Is it just me or does this car have horrible handling?! I've been playing the game with a E92 M3, Evo IX, and Tii and all 3 of those car handles like a dream but i tried using the GTR and this thing is all over the place. Understeers like crazy then oversteers like no other. I'm playing with everything turned off, standard realism setting on a G25 wheel.
 
It handles perfectly, one and only flaw is its tailhappyness on brakes, so watch it carefully and brake without steering.
 
neige
Is it just me or does this car have horrible handling?! I've been playing the game with a E92 M3, Evo IX, and Tii and all 3 of those car handles like a dream but i tried using the GTR and this thing is all over the place. Understeers like crazy then oversteers like no other. I'm playing with everything turned off, standard realism setting on a G25 wheel.
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its just you
 
neige
Is it just me or does this car have horrible handling?! I've been playing the game with a E92 M3, Evo IX, and Tii and all 3 of those car handles like a dream but i tried using the GTR and this thing is all over the place. Understeers like crazy then oversteers like no other. I'm playing with everything turned off, standard realism setting on a G25 wheel.
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Try PRO physics, I always thought the car (and most others in the game) handled weirdly in standard.
 
RedBaron
It handles perfectly, one and only flaw is its tailhappyness on brakes, so watch it carefully and brake without steering.
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+1...the tailhappyness is a bit unrealistic for sure,see any driving test from any carmagazine and nobody ever mentions this...

but braking as much as possible in a straight line will cure the problem somewhat...hell its even fun sliding into a corner a bit...:)...



spyrrari.
 
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well.. it DOES have 480+bhp and rear-biased AWD-system. Understeer? well, it's a car that has to be driven, it doesn't drive itself for you unlike some claim.. and if you drive it correctly, it will keep Ferraris in the mirrors. As for the loose tail during braking? I find that entertaining and highly useable trait. Oversteer>understeer..
 
You need to understand how it works, it's rwd until it breaks traction then its 4wd, so drive it like its rwd drive until it breaks traction then correct the slide with a 4wd technique, e.g use the throttle with neutral steering, if you try to correct it with opposite lock it will bite! jumping from rwd to gtr is tricky but master it and its brilliant, the car is outstandingly fast, use the tail happiness underbreaks to you advantage or dial it out with break bias and geometry settings, hope this helps mate just my experience
 
I found that it was pretty difficult too. It is the tailhappyness on the brakes that is probably why it handles so badly to you. It's not a handling issue: it's a braking issue.
 
neige
Is it just me or does this car have horrible handling?! I've been playing the game with a E92 M3, Evo IX, and Tii and all 3 of those car handles like a dream but i tried using the GTR and this thing is all over the place. Understeers like crazy then oversteers like no other. I'm playing with everything turned off, standard realism setting on a G25 wheel.
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i agree completly.......the evo IX is one of the best handling cars in the game........the gtr is almost undriveable on the HSR.
thats my opinion anyway..............
 
Are you driving these stock or are you taking them online and adding PP to hit 750 for example?

If you are adding stupid amount of power then throwing it down to minimum weight but its still on S3's, then of course its going to be bad.

Im saying this because it happened at Daytona Road last update. You cant just add power and take weight off. You need to tune everything else around it, to give yourself a good tune and then it becomes an awesome machine again.

For the record, I think its awesome ;)



Edit: DJ-MOSS-MAN - Edit your posts so you dont double post 👍
 
Thanks for all those replied with helpful responses guys. I'm going to try and master the Godzilla. But yes its definetly the high speed turns i've been having problems with like Fuji speedway, High Speed Ring etc. and yes paticularily the lift off while mid corner. I've been driving it like the Evo IX.
 
The only issue I have ever had was the back end getting loose under heavy braking.

I really can't wait to get a go in a tuned version in GT5 for real, get rid of a bit of that weight!
 
Leonidae
well.. it DOES have 480+bhp and rear-biased AWD-system. Understeer? well, it's a car that has to be driven, it doesn't drive itself for you unlike some claim.. and if you drive it correctly, it will keep Ferraris in the mirrors. As for the loose tail during braking? I find that entertaining and highly useable trait. Oversteer>understeer..
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Leo, I thought you didn't have a PS3?:confused:

Anyway, I have noticed this, but it's probably just your driving style. You'll learn to control the oversteer over time.

And, has anybody noticed that the GT-R and various other cars (M3, Evo, STi) are '07's instead of '08's or '09's? I know GT5P was released in 2007, but the years are wrong.

And mk2escort, what is the High Speed Wrong? Did PD release a new track today?
 
Leonidae
well.. it DOES have 480+bhp and rear-biased AWD-system. Understeer? well, it's a car that has to be driven, it doesn't drive itself for you unlike some claim.. and if you drive it correctly, it will keep Ferraris in the mirrors. As for the loose tail during braking? I find that entertaining and highly useable trait. Oversteer>understeer..
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Very true. 👍 I think some folks expect the GT-R to drive as it did in GT1 or 2 (not you neige....some other people). But to master it means to learn it's traits.

Everything i've ever read about this newer GT-R tells me that it works with you, but you (the driver) still need to keep it on its toes.
 
Parnelli Bone
Very true. 👍 I think some folks expect the GT-R to drive as it did in GT1 or 2 (not you neige....some other people). But to master it means to learn it's traits.

Everything i've ever read about this newer GT-R tells me that it works with you, but you (the driver) still need to keep it on its toes.
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I expected the GTR to handle like Clarkson described it. and the way Top Gear magazine described it.
 
I hate how the tail cant decide if it wants to oversteer or understeer at the limit. It keeps on oscillating and I dont think the real deal would do that.
 
I find the hardest corner in the GT-R is on Eiger Reverse, coming out of the tunnel. Its the only turn on Eiger that I have to left foot brake on (while keeping the go pedal mashed). When I was doing personal comparison with the Vette, Viper, and GT-R at Eiger, I actually found the GT-R to be hardest car to drive. It was much faster, but scary. I too thought it would be more like Clarkson said, but boy was I wrong.
 
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Ive notice the GTR gets loose also, but only if i hit the brake pedal light. When i hit the brakes hard to the floor the breaking is very good. This is in stock trim with a G25
 
TofuStoreDrift
I find the hardest corner in the GT-R is on Eiger Reverse, coming out of the tunnel. Its the only turn on Eiger that I have to left foot brake on (while keeping the go pedal mashed). When I was doing personal comparison with the Vette, Viper, and GT-R at Eiger, I actually found the GT-R to be hardest car to drive. It was much faster, but scary. I too thought it would be more like Clarkson said, but boy was I wrong.
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You havent tried a stock GTR on entry to corner 1 of Daytona road then?
 
all these responses made me feel more confident about my GT skills (not much, but still) hahah after 10+ years of GT its nice to know its not just me.
 
spyrrari
+1...the tailhappyness is a bit unrealistic for sure,see any driving test from any carmagazine and nobody ever mentions this...

but braking as much as possible in a straight line will cure the problem somewhat...hell its even fun sliding into a corner a bit...:)...
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I read the article and they said that Nissan had big problem with unstability on brakes during development of new GT-R and they revamped rear suspension to solve it. And something from it surely remained.
 
It's the most surefooted car of the bunch but you must take into account that it is a heavy car so brake early and more importantly smoothly. In races I would place more brake towards the front bias and I usually change to 35-65 F-R torque on more technical tracks and 60-40 on the fast ones.
 
after 2hrs of practice on tracks such as the high speed ring and daytona ring, i'm able to handle the GTR. and yes this car is fun to drive. Especially on Suzuka
 
Well sometimes its heaven sometimes its hell, if you dont set up right for that particular track it will be terrible as i found out on fuji last night where id just hit the brake and id spin uncontrollably in most corners but on suzuka it is great!
 
RedBaron
I read the article and they said that Nissan had big problem with unstability on brakes during development of new GT-R and they revamped rear suspension to solve it. And something from it surely remained.
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yes but if you compaire the gt-r concept with the actuall gt-r in the game,the concept has way less lift off oversteer....so according to what you say,it should be the other way round...:indiff:

spyrrari.
 
spyrrari
+1...the tailhappyness is a bit unrealistic for sure,see any driving test from any carmagazine and nobody ever mentions this...
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Depends on what magazines you read. I've read several reviews where the testers have said that the car feels great at 8/10ths, but is very willing to oversteer if provoked. A few noted that the high levels of grip make break-away very sudden at 10/10ths.

neige
I expected the GTR to handle like Clarkson described it. and the way Top Gear magazine described it.
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Jeremy Clarkson, the only man to declare that the Caparo T1 understeers like a pig? On the show where they showed a Tesla being pushed into a garage, ostensibly out of batteries, when they didn't actually drain them, but guesstimated they would run out in XX miles, which they didn't actually attempt, and with no measures taken to ensure the Teslas were "topped off" in the first place? Clarkson is entertaining, but anything he says needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

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The Concept understeers like a pig. Probably based on that original suspension setting that netted the GT-R a near 8-minute time at the Nurburgring... that same time that sent Nissan into a suspension development frenzy which brought that time down to under or around 7:30... The GT-R in the game has problems with oversteer under braking... understandable... very heavy car, very stiff, lots of mass moving around at the rear... but brake properly, and there's little in the game that can touch it. It accelerates with hardly any wheelspin, is very stable, and has tons of grip. Even better, in PP-balanced races, the GT-R's weight advantage makes it harder for punters to knock around... unless they're also, of course, in GT-Rs... in which case it becomes a slam-fest. :lol:
 
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GTR seems bit slow on turns.. but look at the speed.. as well coming in and out. the powerful braking and power coming out of corners keep it alive..
 

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