Having seen the final F1 race, I can only pray Yas Marina will be in GT5...

[newuser2k9]

You've got to be kidding. Hungary is, apart from Monaco, the track with the least overtaking possibilities. What you're saying about the Tilke circuits is simply not true. They are built especially to help overtaking. Also the Abu Dhabi track was designed to make this possible, using a layout with one long straight to catch up, followed by a tight corner and another long straight.

Actually, it was pretty easy to overtake, if there was some difference in car speeds. Kobayashi had no trouble overtaking Button aftet he got out from his pitstop with the heavy car, and also Button would have gotten the better of Webber eventually, if he could have tried one more lap to line up on the inside instead of the outside.

So, no, the track is actually very good, just the cars are very evenly matched and were lined up pretty much in their "natural" order of speed, so there was few overtaking to take place anyway.

Also other Tilke tracks have a lot more overtaking possibilities than most older tracks. E.g. Istanbul and Shanghai.

Look, no matter what you say about Yas, in it's first it provided a few very exciting battles. This one is innovative (one of the best pit exits in the world; hotel looming over the track), it has some great corners (the downhill sections leading to the hairpin etc.), and it's very complex. Yes, it is no Spa, but Spa is a legend on its on right. This is my favourite Tilke track, and though I haven't driven it, it seems close to the energy of a track like Spa or Suzuka, my all time favourites.

 

[One-77]

Besides, the desert tracks all lack atmosphere and are dull to look at.

You have to be kidding me..

You didn't see the same race as the rest of us if you think that Yas Marina was "dull to look at".

Did you see the Yas Hotel?
Did you see the Marina?
Did you see the facilities for all the teams shaped like (albeit vast) traditional houses?
Did you see the Royal Tower?

All no's I would imagine, because it looked fantastic. I just found myself loving the whole thing, especially as it was a day -> night race, what with the Hotel lighting up, I thought that was absolutely fantastic.

 

[The Outlaw]

Look, no matter what you say about Yas, in it's first it provided a few very exciting battles. This one is innovative (one of the best pit exits in the world; hotel looming over the track), it has some great corners (the downhill sections leading to the hairpin etc.), and it's very complex. Yes, it is no Spa, but Spa is a legend on its on right. This is my favourite Tilke track, and though I haven't driven it, it seems close to the energy of a track like Spa or Suzuka, my all time favourites.

Ugh...so you're agreeing with him?

 

[One-77]

Yes it looks like he does.

God help people with differing opinions, we must all think the same.

*sigh*

 

[Adam41]

The Yas Hotel which stretche out over the course lights up beautifully at night

I thought the lights looked horrible. Just random colours and random shapes shining on and off.

 

[RUFin]

I'd rather much like to see the new Portimão track instead, with its elevation changes and blind uphill corners. But i'm suspect...

This is the one I want to see.
That Yas Marina was like GT replay,very clinical.Too much.And grey,except neons.

 

[newuser2k9]

Yes it looks like he does.

God help people with differing opinions, we must all think the same.

*sigh*

What's that for? Because I replied to a post of a similar train of thought? I never knew that was verboten.

 

[MercilessOne]

100% agree. Tilke needs to be replaced as a track designer. Very little chance to overtake. Long straight with the Tilke trademark L-R-L hairpin followed my a lap of "follow the leader" corners. The only interesting track he has designed is the track in Hungary.

No love for Turkey's track?

 

[rsh]

You have to be kidding me..

You didn't see the same race as the rest of us if you think that Yas Marina was "dull to look at".

Did you see the Yas Hotel?
Did you see the Marina?
Did you see the facilities for all the teams shaped like (albeit vast) traditional houses?
Did you see the Royal Tower?

All no's I would imagine, because it looked fantastic. I just found myself loving the whole thing, especially as it was a day -> night race, what with the Hotel lighting up, I thought that was absolutely fantastic.

Nope, I am not kidding you.
Putting a large ship in a bay, like Yas Marina or Valencia don' t make an instant good atmosphere.
The crowd, lay out and track side do make for an atmosphere to me.
So they could build 15 hotels, take 12 ocean steamers and 12 larhe towers, that won't make a great circuit per se.
Look at Spa, the best there is. The pits are good, but no large objects, no big scenery. But the best atmosphere besides Le Mans there is for F1 and/or Endurance racing

 

[tlongman]

My issue with Tilke is that he doesn't even try to make anything like Spa. All the corners of Spa are sweeping, fast, and really showcase the downforce and speed of the modern F1 car. The only corner on the track that isn't like that is that tight right-left chicane at the end but that was designed by, guess who, Mr. Hermann Tilke. I wish Tilke would stop designing tracks that look like they were designed with a ruler, and start designing tracks that have a more natural looking flow to them. Sweeping corners, flatout kinks, just generally more corners that test the drivers braveness. Can you imagine a track like that but with all the spectacle of a track like Yas Marina? I don't know about you but I'm getting tired of the same old, used, corner combinations. He's running out ways to connect all the hairpins that inevitably make it into his tracks. I would love to see him add some more sweeping, fast, "ballsy", corners. Even if it meant sacrificing some overtaking for the sake of entertainment because, lets be honest, overtaking isn't really something that happens very often even on the best of tracks in Formula 1. But at least you would have an entertaining track that's fun to drive instead a mind numbing, boring drive through some anonymous desert.

 

[Earth]

Please, dont want a lame modern F1 track in GT5

I saw the F1 race and the track, it's lame, at least to me. No exciting memorable corners, no elevation changes, nothing to write home about.

Only F1 tracks worthy of being in GT are
- Spa
- Monaco - already in GT
- Silverstone
- Monza
- Suzuka - already in GT
- maybe Canada Gilles Villeneuve
- maybe Brazil

Notice the above tracks have been around for some time and are not the 'modern' boring F1 tracks created recently

The rest have no soul, elevation changes or anything worthwhile. In short, boring. I'll never forgive F1 for destroying Hockenheim

There are far more deserving/unique/exciting/historic tracks to be in GT5 then Abu Dhabi or other modern F1 trash tracks. Off the top of my head,

- Bristol, the world's fastest half mile


- Road Atlanta


- Road America


- Mosport


- Sebring


- Bathurst

 

[Cap'n Jack]

I saw the F1 race and the track, it's lame, at least to me. No exciting memorable corners, no elevation changes, nothing to write home about.

While everything else you said is a matter of opinion, you are quite wrong about the circuit having no elevation changes. There are also various other small changes in elevation around the circuit, but the section pictured is the most obvious.

 

[BlackZ28]

I hope it's in, and they model it as a night track. That would be great.

 

[One-77]

Nope, I am not kidding you.
Putting a large ship in a bay, like Yas Marina or Valencia don' t make an instant good atmosphere.
The crowd, lay out and track side do make for an atmosphere to me.
So they could build 15 hotels, take 12 ocean steamers and 12 larhe towers, that won't make a great circuit per se.
Look at Spa, the best there is. The pits are good, but no large objects, no big scenery. But the best atmosphere besides Le Mans there is for F1 and/or Endurance racing

I do agree with you there, but what you must understand is this: I really, really love Spa. I think its a fantastic circuit, but this is so different to it.

Tracks like Spa, Monza maybe even Silverstone are all heritage and the stuff of F1 legend. I am not saying for a second remove them types of tracks.

But for me, Yas Marina looks absolutely incredible, and for this reason, I would love for it to be in the game. I just think looking at the hotel and the marina and the "towns" or whatever else there are will be more interesting than trees, trees, trees, trees, trees, pits! trees, trees, etc.

I love both types of circuit, and I think there is enough room for both types (Older, more classic tracks and the modern sparkly ones) in F1, and surely, GT5.

I didn't start this thread to be an argument, I was just wondering about people opinions on the race, the circuit and whether they liked the idea of it being in GT5.

I have loved watching every F1 race on the calender this season, and long may the mix of Modern and Classic continue, for as long as Bernie "The Money grabbing little {insert expletive here}" Ecclestone will allow.

 

[JohnBM01]

Just because a circuit was recently created doesn't mean it will be guaranteed arrival into GT5. I was terribly unable to see the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Pictures and video that I've seen of this track are fantastic. I've been following and praising the Dubai Autodrome since the GT Academy deal. But nowadays, I think this Yas Marina Circuit is even more lovely than the Dubai Autodrome. And speaking of the Dubai Autodrome, I haven't heard or seen much of anything in regards to how progress on this track is doing.

Hope and pray this course makes it into GT5. But it's very unlikely this course will show up, even if as downloadable content.

 

[Johnny]

Some fun at:

Interlagos

- Porsche GT3 RSR /Driver: Max Wilson (Brazilian V8 Stock Car driver)


- Porsche GT3 /Driver: Thiago Camilo (Brazilian V8 Stock Car driver)


- 2007 Peugeot 307 Sedan - Brazilian V8 Stock Car /Driver: Ricardo Sperafico


Curitiba
(Main straight is made of concrete and used for Drag races)

- Ferrari 430 GT3 / Driver: Daniel Serra (Brazilian V8 Stock Car driver)


- Seat Leon TFSI WTCC / Driver: Tom Coronel

 

[chepe371]

Put Heathrow airport in instead and no one will know the difference.

There are about a billion other F1 tracks past and present needing to be added before this. Spa, Monza (all variations) and Circuit Gilles Villeneuve are top priority.

Rather them than a rich man's car park, cheers.

You had me at Gilles Villeneuve.

 

[cicohipe]

I'd say more street circuits over F1 courses or race circuits. GT5P race courses get so boring after awhile. GT5 needs more courses out in the mountains and through city streets that really look amazing and scenic.

 

[Pescara for GT5]

An old F1 track that needs to be put in is Pescara, host of the 1957 Pescara Grand Prix, the longest F1 track of all time, and one of the fastest.

 

[nvirmani]

How bout the RoC track? That should be fun online!

 

[One-77]

Pescara sounds good.
I still think Yas Marina would be an incredible addition to the game, as a technological showcase of GT's capabilities if nothing else for some people, but it'd certainly be something else for me.

 

[Seismica]

I used to love Hockenheim in the first F1 game on PS1.

Was that before or after they changed it?

I definetly want that circuit.

Spa too

 

[Cap'n Jack]

Was that before or after they changed it?

The circuit configuration has changed quite a few times over the years, actually, but I know what you mean. The layout in the PS1 game, Formula One, is the layout preceding the current layout which came about in 2002, after the circuit was deemed to be "not a spectator friendly circuit" by the FIA.

 

[Seismica]

"not a spectator friendly circuit" by the FIA.

Translation:

It does not bring in enough revenue from ticket sales.

(Although i thought the circuit owners got the ticket sales and advertising in return for a fixed license from the FIA?)

 

[arvin charles]

Yas Marina would be a welcome addition to GT, IMO. As well as the other tracks mentioned. The more the merrier.

An old F1 track that needs to be put in is Pescara, host of the 1957 Pescara Grand Prix, the longest F1 track of all time, and one of the fastest.

I had to look this one up. It's certainly interesting, unfortunately, there's not a lot of photos/videos of it available.

 

[Pescara for GT5]

I had to look this one up. It's certainly interesting, unfortunately, there's not a lot of photos/videos of it available.

It is unfortunate, but if it was possible, I would hope that PD would go for it, also old configurations of Spa, Monza, Dijon(not sure if this is right, I know the track I am thinking of hosted the French Grand Prix in the 70's) would be good.

 

[arvin charles]

Dijon Prenois. Villeneuve & Arnoux had a nice battle there IIRC.

As far as Pescara, it is possible for PD to recreate it if it's no longer there today...They'd have to look through stock footage though (in addition to visiting the current site), but it wouldn't be impossible.

 

[paulpg87]

It is unfortunate, but if it was possible, I would hope that PD would go for it, also old configurations of Spa, Monza, Dijon(not sure if this is right, I know the track I am thinking of hosted the French Grand Prix in the 70's) would be good.

yes, pescara road circuit was good, it's in the same league of Nurburgring speaking of dangerous. Here in Italy in a tv motorsport show they showed, last week, some old footage of pescara, .. it was very dangerous cause is a 25km city/italian country circuit with very high speed.

 

[arvin charles]

yes, pescara road circuit was good, it's in the same league of Nurburgring speaking of dangerous. Here in Italy in a tv motorsport show they showed, last week, some old footage of pescara, .. it was very dangerous cause is a 25km city/italian country circuit with very high speed.

Do they have any footage available online? If not, can you put some excerpts if they show a repeat?

My interest has been piqued.

 

[paulpg87]

Do they have any footage available online? If not, can you put some excerpts if they show a repeat?

My interest has been piqued.

No online footage, it's a small program on a local tv in Milan.
If they'll show again something i'll try to record it, but it's not something it will happen soon cause with the conclusion of motogp and f1 championship also the show took a pause.(For the 80% of the time they speak about Valentino Rossi, Ducati and Ferrari.. so they have nothing to do now)