Help me, GTPers of the Bay Area CA! (Or anyone at all!)

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For all the car nuts, who know nothing about the Bay, heres an easy one for you:
Which car should we take on a 300+ mile road trip?

2001 Toyota Camry I4 Manual- My car, I would drive- I'm fairly comfortable in most driving situations.
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First Gen Ford Edge- Her car, she would likely have to drive. She doesnt have very much experience driving in big cities.

Consider: Passing Power, Safety, Comfort, Fuel Efficiency, Ability to accommodate 2 bicycles, ride quality
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Here's a snipit of a telephone conversation I had with my long time friend Amanda last night.
Me: "Yeah, pretty much all I did this summer is go to the bay area... I've been there tons of times in my life, and I love it each and every time"
(More than 20 times, Im sure.)

Her: "Really! I've only been once, it rained and all we did was go to Pier 39"

Me: "Thats a bummer. That certainly isn't a proper look 'round San Fran... We should go sometime!"

Her: "We should!"

"When... wait, like would sometime this summer work?"

"Uh, yeah! Lets do it, and even if it doesnt work, we'll go on a weekend or something!"


Yes! A day trip to the Bay sounds lovely! However, we are both freshly 17, and we have parents to please.

So Please, Bear with me as I attempt to ask for help, and express some of our desires about the trip! Any help, experienced or not, would be greatly appreciated.

We each have a budget of $70
We may only stay ONE day. No overnight anything, aside from driving home.

We'd like to:
Walk on the Golden Gate bridge
go to Golden Gate Park
visit Ikea of Emmryville
visit Union Square
perhaps go to a Museum?
Ideas appreciated!

TASK ONE- Getting to the Bay Area Part 1: Leaving the Small Town
We both live in Redding, California; about 160 Miles north of Sacramento. This makes the general Freeway journey look like this-

Interstate 5 South, turn to Interstate 505 West, merge with Interstate 80 West(It puts me on 80 around Vacaville/Fairfield).

Now, I have physically driven this route (Actually driven, in the drivers seat) 3 times. I should have no problems with this, and it checks out with our parents.

Part 2: To the Bay!
This is where it gets iffy. I have, as I see it, about 3 options.

Option 1: Blow Through! Keep right on driving through the Bay Bridge!
This seems to be the cheapest option. However, that puts me IN San Francisco (With all of the insane hill stops) in a manual car. I've done this once, and very nearly had an aneurism. The traffic... The streets...
In addition, my parents aren't happy about the thought of their son taking their car to a big city with little experience. But, if I elect to park as soon as I get off the Freeway, I can use public transit (Explained later)

Option 2: Ahoy! Take the Ferry!
This is preferred, apart from the cost. $23 per person, each way would hack through half of our money. But, I also feel that the Ferry could be cool as an attraction, looking at the Bay and such. Where to get on? West Oakland? Vallejo?
Also, what happens when we miss the last ferry back? We then take the Subway, and have to find a way to get to our car...

Option 3: Meh. Take the BART(Subway System).
Pretty much the least attractive option apart from cost- $6.50 round trip. Again, where to park? Where to get on and off the subway?

TASK 2- Getting around town
This is for when we actually arrive in SF.

if Car:
A. Drive- Not really a option.
B. Park in SF, and then one of the following options

if Ferry/Subway:
A. As I recall, bikes are allowed on the BART. Thus, would it be practical to ride our bikes around SF? Worth risking a flat on the opposite side of the city from our Subway/Ferry terminal?
B. Purchase Municipal Transit Day Pass- $14 per person, gets us access to Bus and Rail system. Except neither of us know how to use public transit.
C. Walk! Takes quite alot of time... Pretty annoying...
D. Taxis! Really out of our price range....
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Itinerary!
As stated, we want to go to Ikea, in Emmryville (Oakland). Should we do that before or after we do SF?

GG Bridge, We'd like to walk across, and go to the Vista Point at the north end. Is this easy to drive to? Is there Muni transit nearby?

Food? Whats a good, non-expensive place to eat?

Museums? Hip or Hype? Which ones are nice? Which ones are FREE?!

Union Square presents no problems... (Planning to walk into the Ferrari Store sporting my Vodafone McLaren Mercedes "Lewis" cap. See if I can get any sort of comment at all.)

Any other places?

Any and all help, all levels, would be highly appreciated.
 
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You could go with the Ferry option, pull a "Bonnie and Clyde" and make off with a few grand.
 
You could go with the Ferry option, pull a "Bonnie and Clyde" and make off with a few grand.

That would generate headlines like

" 'AP Students rob Cross-Bay Ferry' "
"In a shocking move, 17 year old Ryan West and his compatriot tried to steal roughly $2000 in cash from a Ferry in the San Francisco bay. He is quoted as saying 'Yeah, Schwartz[Member of the online forum "GT Planet"] said it was a good idea. I was looking for a simple vacation, but he REALLY opened my eyes to the true opportunities!'
They're both spending the night in the Alameda County Jail"
But... as most teens would agree....

#YOLO
 
hawkeye122

Judge: Why did you think you could get away with armed robbery?

Ryan West: Because YOLO, judge. YOLO.

Judge: Well that changes everything! You're free to go.
 
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You could easily burn a day with the plans you have lined up. Here are some other options...

China Town
Wax Museum at Fisherman's Wharf
Ghirardelli Square
Castro Street, if you're interested in that stuff.
Monterey Bay Aquarium (a bit father away)

The only museum that I've been to in recent memory is the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art (MOMA). I probably would of enjoyed it if I didn't think that 90% of all modern art is crap. If you like modern art, you'll love the MOMA. Even if you're not big on it, there are some genuinely good exhibits.

Transport:
For getting around I would stay away from the ferry. It seems too expensive and slow for your trip.

Bikes are a good way of transport around the city, so long as you are confident with the traffic.

Walking is a surprisingly fun way of experiencing the city. It allows you to take in the atmosphere better.

Restaurants:
There are literally hundreds of great restaurants in the area. Fog City Diner has good food for a budget.

Unfortunately I don't go up to the city too often. I can't really remember any other restaurants vividly. Consult Yelp.

Word of warning: Watch out for the bicyclists. Really. Many of them are the most entitled and oblivious people in the city. This applies both when you are in a car and when you are walking. They kill pedestrians every so often. When you cross the street, look twice for a bicycle that decided that the rules of the road didn't apply to him.
 
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You could easily burn a day with the plans you have lined up. Here are some other options...

China Town
Wax Museum at Fisherman's Wharf
Ghirardelli Square
Castro Street, if you're interested in that stuff.
Monterey Bay Aquarium (a bit father away)

The only museum that I've been to in recent memory is the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art (MOMA). I probably would of enjoyed it if I didn't think that 90% of all modern art is crap. If you like modern art, you'll love the MOMA. Even if you're not big on it, there are some genuinely good exhibits.

Transport:
For getting around I would stay away from the ferry. It seems too expensive and slow for your trip.

Bikes are a good way of transport around the city, so long as you are confident with the traffic.

Walking is a surprisingly fun way of experiencing the city. It allows you to take in the atmosphere better.

Restaurants:
There are literally hundreds of great restaurants in the area. Fog City Diner has good food for a budget.

Unfortunately I don't go up to the city too often. I can't really remember any other restaurants vividly. Consult Yelp.

Word of warning: Watch out for the bicyclists. Really. Many of them are the most entitled and oblivious people in the city. This applies both when you are in a car and when you are walking. They kill pedestrians every so often. When you cross the street, look twice for a bicycle that decided that the rules of the road didn't apply to him.

I agree with the walking bit. But even I know that a walking trip from the Subway station to Union Square, and then to Golden Gate Park/Bridge seems a bit time consuming...

Monterrey Bay Aquarium would be awesome, but I'm not certain that I'm permitted to drive THAT far. I think San Jose is pretty much my maximum reasonable distance.

Are bikers hated? I mean, a bike sounds awesome, but how receptive are the drivers to people who ride bikes? Especially people of the slightly-tourist flavor...

How much does it cost to get into MOMA?
 
Is yours the 2001 Toyota Camry 2.2L LE? Certainly beats my 2010 SE 2.5L in terms of power...

Theoretically, the Camry should be more fuel efficient, after having just researched a bit. 130~ HP should be enough power for you, after experiencing, as a passenger, being on a freeway inside a 120 HP 1999 Toyota Corolla LE.

Total distance for us was 800 km, or about 500 miles there and back.

Just be sure you know how to out accelerate other cars to overtake...
 
Is yours the 2001 Toyota Camry 2.2L LE? Certainly beats my 2010 SE 2.5L in terms of power...

Theoretically, the Camry should be more fuel efficient, after having just researched a bit. 130~ HP should be enough power for you, after experiencing, as a passenger, being on a freeway inside a 120 HP 1999 Toyota Corolla LE.

Total distance for us was 800 km, or about 500 miles there and back.

Just be sure you know how to out accelerate other cars to overtake...

It is the 2.2 LE. Thats actually quite funny.

It accelerates well in 3rd, but the gap from 3rd to 4th, and then 4th to 5th requires good timing...
 
I don't know if biking around SF will be that great. You're concerned about driving on the hills, but not biking up all of them...?

Personally, I would highly recommend walking. You see a ton more that way, and if you two fancy, can easily change plans and itineraries or make a detour and see whatever interested you. Granted it's a big city, bit I still think walking is your best bet.

I'm vacationing in Europe right now, and I've been walking each of the cities I've been to. I'm very glad to be doing that.


hawkeye122
2001 Toyota Camry I4 Manual- My car, I would drive- I'm fairly comfortable in most driving situations.
-or-
First Gen Ford Edge- Her car, she would likely have to drive. She doesnt have very much experience driving in big cities.
hawkeye122
It is the 2.2 LE. Thats actually quite funny.

I thought the 2.2 LE Camry can out-accelerate any car out there.


hawkeye122
Yes! A day trip to the Bay sounds lovely! However, we are both freshly 17, and we have parents to please.

And each other? :sly:
 
I thought the 2.2 LE Camry can out-accelerate any car out there.

Oh it totally can. If his was the Automatic, and mines the manual... It's basically a Rallycross car.


And each other? :sly:
Noooooo. I've known her for so long, it would change the dynamic. She's more of a sister, really...


But now that I think about it... she is very pretty ;)


With regard to the bikes... Where we plan to go isnt very hilly. The car is a problem because if I get caught on a one-way street, Im screwed. On a bike i can simply step off and get on the sidewalk.
 
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