Help with tuning on snow

[WonkyFonk]

I used the prototype aswell for the rallies, its a wonderful car, without any setup mods needed. What id advise is if you can win the slow easy rally easily, use this race as practice. ul improve ur lap time and have a little pressure to deal with. I find when the pressure is on, i drive my best. Thats the way Ive learnt the stages.

 

[DeSwyft]

Need Help? Go to License where Off roads tests are, run a demo, put the replay on display and observe every statistic: overall speed, steering, braking and throttle control.

So Don't full throttle into a corner, you can however full throttle out of one if you are at a high angle I do that with my impreza prototype (at nearly 90 degrees) and most often don't touch a single wall. I learned that in GT2 and GT3..

 

[XGT Taipan]

Snow is very unforgiving when you use "quick-movement", slow it down, take your time and smoothen out your style.

Being aggressive will get you in trouble.

Just keep trying, and follow your competition, watching the line they use and make notes of where you're quicker than them so you know where to make your move.

Also I found driving with a controller is far more difficult to drive smoothly when compared to a wheel. So be extra causious if you don't have a wheel.

 

[|ncary]

And if you can't be assed wasting life on the snow rally's, get the Escudo and blast through riding the walls, before you know it it'll be over and you can move onto doing the dirt rally's properly _b

 

[Mt. Lynx]

^^ Why not learn to drive properly from the beginning?
The secret to rallying is small and early inputs in everything you do. Brake early, turn early, and be very gentle with the throttleinput when exiting a corner. Don´t just slam the brakes, try to avoid locking your wheels, and try to maintain a certain degree of grip at all times, except when turning, since a controlled drift is the best way to point your front end in the correct direction, when driving on gravel/ice. But getting the tyres to grip is the main issue to be concerned about when rallying.

 

[|ncary]

it's actually like how you move the wheel/stick. irl steering is the first priority, combined with a matching right foot. small and smooth = too slow and too safe. you need to push it with aggressive steering and commitment to the corner to rally fast. the rally in this game is pretty lame, too easy, hope they really shape up the rally in GT5. (things like different layers of gravel, longer rally races, 3 tire compounds etccccc)

 

[panjandrum]

Update: I've given up I'm just going to leave those races there. I've tried everything. I just can't beat them. Can anyone suggest any good rally games. PS2 or xbox.

You might just try a completely different type of car. I'm an older driver (well, not yet 40, but older compared to most of you :-), and I learned to drive in the snow in FR and RR cars, not AWD cars. I tried using the traditional rally cars (mostly AWD), and just absolutely suck at driving them. I tend to hit the gas and understeer straight into the wall. I just can't to the "wait wait wait, now you're straight, now hit the gas" thing.

Eventually I realized what the problem was, built myself a nice RUF BTR (that's an RR car) and kicked-butt on all the off-road rally courses with it. I'm also good with the Lancia rally car (MR). I can also almost always beat the AWD cars on the off-road courses in 2-player mode using my BTR.

So try something that isn't an AWD rally car, and see where that gets you!

 

[Scaff]

it's actually like how you move the wheel/stick. irl steering is the first priority, combined with a matching right foot. small and smooth = too slow and too safe. you need to push it with aggressive steering and commitment to the corner to rally fast. the rally in this game is pretty lame, too easy, hope they really shape up the rally in GT5. (things like different layers of gravel, longer rally races, 3 tire compounds etccccc)

While I agree that rally for future versions of GT need to improve in both scale and options, your comments or real rallying needing aggression are completely wrong.

Small inputs and smooth is far from too slow and too safe, take a look at how the likes of Seb Loeb drive and its very much a smooth and neat approach and he's certainly a long way from slow.

The maxim of almost every racing school (be it track or rally) is to minimise the steering input and to always be smooth with the controls, and that does not have to mean slow at all. Its perfectly possible to be smooth and quick, the car maintains stability and you make better use of the tyres.

Richards Burns Rally models this very well, try being aggressive with the steering or over-driving the car on gravel or snow and you will be rewarded with a quick trip to the trees.


Regards

Scaff

 

[eg6_dude]

I agree with Scaff. I used to struggle in snow and ice rally event, because I overdrove ther car and ran way of the racing line. Also i have found that in snow events standard WRC cars with no mods are plenty. The power is good and the throttle response is instant. When you fit a larger turbo the lag increases and you can't control slides accuratly. Slow is fast!

 

[|ncary]

'aggressive' - a word that doesnt always mean 'pissed off at your steering wheel and turning it as hard as you can angrily'

you turn the car faster -you turn corners faster. thats what i mean by aggression kk.

 

[Scaff]

'aggressive' - a word that doesnt always mean 'pissed off at your steering wheel and turning it as hard as you can angrily'

you turn the car faster -you turn corners faster. thats what i mean by aggression kk.

I would then suggest that in future you expand on your description, as I don't believe I was the only one to take aggressive in its more commonly accepted definitions.

However you have to also accept that you took small and smooth (in terms of steering and throttle inputs) to mean slow and safe, two terms that were not used at all.

Regards

Scaff

 

[FLK]

I did all of the dirt and snow rallies in the Hard section with a 300 hp Peugeot 206 rallycar. No worries at all!

Thanks, using this car is good but I'm just not there yet on grand canyon hard, softening the LSD and my driving style has also helped. I'm tired of the AI always hitting me and then ending up getting penalised for it as this race has already cost me a lot frustration and seen the death of two ds2 controllers

I really really hope PD sort the problems out in the rallies if they're appearing in GT5!