High rollers club

[C-ZETA]

Can't we just give this thread a lock? Then all the unnecessary BS won't become even more unnecessary.

And I would like to see your video of your Nurburgring lap. I'm reckoning that it'll be accelerate cheated but still...could be worse.

 

[NURBURGRINGKING]

I am not going to post my videos for two good reasons:
1. i don't need your approval.
2. My damn pc wont upload any videos anymore - to youtube or anything.

I will make one apology - i have lied in some areas - not in my completion of games without using cheats, etc...but in the fact that i have a tendency to overestimate my own ability - hence the claim that i could do the 'ring in 7 minutes with a speed 12 with no aids, etc., so, sorry there.

However, i am fully capable of achieving reasonably good lap times of the 'ring without the use of cheats:

Mercedes-Benz Sauber C9 - 5:10
Bentley speed 8 - 5:11
Nissan R92CP - 5:13
Poliphony gt - 5:16
Pescarolo C60 Judd 5:18
etc...

And also reasonably good lap times of La Sarthe:

Poliphony GT - 2:51 (la sarthe 2(with chicanes))
Mazda 787B - 2:53 ('' '' '' ( '' '' '' ))
(Yes i know i said 2:46 - i was wrong, ok?)

I know that they are nowhere near the best in the world, but they are my current best - i know that i can go much faster - if i can just focus my damn concentration.

And, also, that 0.003 'ring time with the motor carrage was not a fake - it was a combination of two cheats - hyperspeed + stop timer. Some may consider that to be fake - i don't. The thread that it was in was not about legitimate lap times - it was a fun
accomplishment.

 

[Lucas]

I am not going to post my videos for two good reasons:
1. i don't need your approval.
2. My damn pc wont upload any videos anymore - to youtube or anything.

Why list the second reason, if you have already made up your mind with your first one?

Anyways, apology noticed.

 

[Diego440]

And, also, that 0.003 'ring time with the motor carrage was not a fake - it was a combination of two cheats - hyperspeed + stop timer. Some may consider that to be fake - i don't.

Something doesn't quite compute here. You're admitting to using a cheat, but you don't consider it cheating...

 

[Kynigh]

i was setting the barrier low to encourage people who are maybe not so good to feel good - thinking that they are ''high rollers''.

So, you want people to believe they are "high rollers" even when they aren't???👎
It seems like a joke for people who are good, but still not great

Yes, I admire people who get good times at Nurburgring, because I'm bad there. Car tuning? Umm... not that much, it's not too necessary to win races. -9s on the 400m? Cool, nice tuning, but my Minolta with just some gear adjustments can get 8.8s

 

[Seismica]

He apologised for his arrogance and general ignorance, i think thats good enough

 

[RaidoGT]

Finally, do you really think doing a 4:40 at the 'ring in the Minolta with no downforce, TCS or soft Racing tyres, is realistic?

I wasn't talking about a Minolta, my dear mon ami mate. There have been 200mph cars around that (even simulated) didn't have no downforce... they had upforce.

When traction control was nonexistent, and tyres were harder than the asphalt they rode upon. That's when things were seriously hard,... let alone deadly.

 

[GTsail]

Not saying that it isn't a good lap, but if you think that's skillful, try imagining doing such a lap *without* any downforce, TC/aids, or soft racing tyres. (Not by me, but it's been done before in more realistic games than GT4.)

I don't understand your post.

Are you saying that the 4:40 lap was only moderately skillful?

Are you saying that holl01's lap would be easy to duplicate?

Are you saying that you could match it using race tires, but you don't because you like to race on N2 tires?

It would seem to me that if Holl01 has recorded the best time at Nurburgring, and if perhaps a million other GT4 drivers have tried to beat his time and could not. Then this would be the very definition of "skillful".

I wasn't talking about a Minolta, my dear mon ami mate. There have been 200mph cars around that (even simulated) didn't have no downforce... they had upforce.

When traction control was nonexistent, and tyres were harder than the asphalt they rode upon. That's when things were seriously hard,... let alone deadly.

I imagine you are referring to race cars at LeMans before the introduction of wing generated downforce and other ground effect developments.

I agree that these older race cars were deadly, and I think some were starting to reach 200 mph on the Mulsanne straight during the 1960's. I think I remember reading that even the first Ford GT40's were generating lift at speed.

But I don't see how this is relevant in discussing Holl01's or Nurburgringking's achievements in GT4.

BTW - I suspect that if Holl01 ran Nurburgring on N2 tires in the Minolta, he would still have the the fastest time, and would be far faster than anything you or I could do.

Why won't you give perhaps the best driver on GT4 his due?

GTsail290

 

[shepzki]

Not saying that it isn't a good lap, but if you think that's skillful, try imagining doing such a lap *without* any downforce, TC/aids, or soft racing tyres. (Not by me, but it's been done before in more realistic games than GT4.)

Is NURBURGRINGKING your bro or what? Seems to me you are very similar in that you just come on here to get people's backs up by downplaying other's achievements. The 4:40 lap is an amazing feat of skill, aids be damned. My best lap is a full 24 seconds slower, so I can fully appreciate it and so do most others who see it for what it is.

 

[NissanSkylineN1]

This is a thread for people who have BIG stats and achievements on GT4.

THIS POST IS FOR PEOPLE WHO LIKE TO USE CHEATS OR DON'T NEED TO USE THEM - IF YOU DON'T LIKE CHEATS - GET LOST NOW.

To be a high roller here is classed as follows:

At least 950 cars in garage.
At least 98% game completion.
Have the knowledge to tune cars to OVER 290 mph without cheats OR the wheelie setup (i use the wheelie setup - so i have got nothing against it - just be capable of tuning cars to that level without it.)
At least 70 golds in licenses.
At least 96% win ratio
Be capable of 400m drag times of less than 9 seconds without cheats.

So...welcome.

Correction:
If using cheats welcome to the LOW rollers club
If not: You are lying because that is almost impossible (impossible being slamming a revolving door closed.)

So, nice to see everyone likes this thread...

Sorry????
We HATE this thread!!!

 

[Daniel]

Tsk, Tsk... Double Posting...
Just stating the obvious... i think that 'RINGKING was being sarcastic... just pointing it out

 

[Austin343]

He wasn't necessarily being sarcastic, if you interpret his comment as meaning that his thread produced a lot of discussion. And if you ask me, we don't hate this thread; in fact, I think I can honestly say that we like to attack arrogant and ignorant members and any stupid ideas they propose.

 

[Daniel]

Touché, Austin, Touché

...in fact, I think I can honestly say that we like to attack arrogant and ignorant members and any stupid ideas they propose.

I will strongly second that

 

[PF]

I will strongly second that

One vote from me in favour of the motion. A bit off topic, but...

When I showed the Holl01 'ring clip to our 10-yr old, he was oddly unimpressed. At about halfway through the lap he said: 'So Pete, how do you speed up a replay? I haven't seen that in the Options screen'. You should've seen his face when I convinced him it was real.

 

[Pitracer100]

One vote from me in favour of the motion. A bit off topic, but...

When I showed the Holl01 'ring clip to our 10-yr old, he was oddly unimpressed. At about halfway through the lap he said: 'So Pete, how do you speed up a replay? I haven't seen that in the Options screen'. You should've seen his face when I convinced him it was real.

It does resemble a fast forwarded replay.

 

[senamic]

Yeah, that was one crazy lap! Still get shivers at the talent of it!

 

[PF]

Is NURBURGRINGKING your bro or what? Seems to me you are very similar in that you just come on here to get people's backs up by downplaying other's achievements.

I beg to differ, good sir. Raido and NURBlahblahblah are similar in that they seem to want to antagonise people who clearly know a lot more than they do. However, I (still) think the former a moderately-clever troll, while the latter is obviously a rather stupid teenager. The first post I read by RaidoGT is actually quite good and useful to me and others. Of course, much of the rest of his contributions are drivel and probably designed to piss people like me off.

The latter user, on the other hand, has helped nobody (as far as I can tell) and irritated everybody.

Please don't take offence at my contrary opinion nemesis, I'd rate you in the top 5% of gtp contributors with regard to the 'pointy end' of GT4, ie the Aspec climb, 200pters, or the car/lineup pairing for a points win.

 

[dennisw]

That minolta lap was fake. Nobody can have the ability to get perfect curve around any corner - and to control the throttle is extremely hard, even with a steering wheel and pedals......in fact, that video looked to me like a very convenient GT4 PC based b-spec cheat or something, because you cant show replay on PS2 without track being shown - see the video YOU posted...IF somebody could do that lap - respect mate, but......
(any nerd can create their own cheat - for instance one that could make b-spec drive perfectly...)

And if i used x2,x3,x4,x8,etc. acceleration cheat - i could do it in less than 4:40...probably less than 4:00 even......i am not ashamed to use cheats - you still have to have skill to drive well with cheats...

That Minolta lap is not fake, that someone can drive that well and get a perfect curve arround any corner is not a b-spec thing, that was done with practise practise and again practice, some luck, and skill, alot of skill.

that you can't do that doesn't mean that nobody can't do that.

and if every nerd can do that b-spec hack, then show me how, give me proof, i am a nerd, but i can't do that....

why are you actually saying it is a fake, and that it can be hacked by any nerd???,
well let my tell you my opinion: YOU are fake, you are a someone that thinks he is better than others, i HATE that kind of people, that kind of people aren't even worth it being sh:censored: on!

I am not going to post my videos for two good reasons:
1. i don't need your approval.

you just can't do it...

2. My damn pc wont upload any videos anymore - to youtube or anything.

This is just a lame excuse. Dude, keep it real, post real laptimes, and if these are real, proof it, put the file of the video in the attachments, because you can't upload it...

I will make one apology - i have lied in some areas - not in my completion of games without using cheats, etc...but in the fact that i have a tendency to overestimate my own ability - hence the claim that i could do the 'ring in 7 minutes with a speed 12 with no aids, etc., so, sorry there.

However, i am fully capable of achieving reasonably good lap times of the 'ring without the use of cheats:

Mercedes-Benz Sauber C9 - 5:10
Bentley speed 8 - 5:11
Nissan R92CP - 5:13
Poliphony gt - 5:16
Pescarolo C60 Judd 5:18
etc...

And also reasonably good lap times of La Sarthe:

Poliphony GT - 2:51 (la sarthe 2(with chicanes))
Mazda 787B - 2:53 ('' '' '' ( '' '' '' ))
(Yes i know i said 2:46 - i was wrong, ok?)

La Sarthe II is the one without chicanes, now don't tell me it is a typing mistake...

I know that they are nowhere near the best in the world,

^true...
neither am i, i suck...

And, also, that 0.003 'ring time with the motor carrage was not a fake - it was a combination of two cheats - hyperspeed + stop timer. Some may consider that to be fake - i don't. The thread that it was in was not about legitimate lap times - it was a fun
accomplishment.

i consider it fake, my opinion...





To the Moderators:every word in this thread were based on my opinions, I know i broke some rules of the AUP, You will not behave in an abusive and/or hateful manner, and will not harrass, threaten, nor attack anyone or any group. There will be no racially, sexually or physically abusive or inciteful language tolerated. Any abusive comments made by members will be removed by the Moderating staff and the user issued with a warning or banned, as deemed appropriate by the Moderating staff. No personal attacks on other members will be tolerated. If you question someone, it must be done in a reasonable and semi-friendly manner. Violating this rule will be grounds for suspension and/or permanent removal from the board.
i know i attacked him, you can warn/suspend/ban me for doing this, if you don't agree with me.

 

[senamic]

To the Moderators:every word in this thread were based on my opinions, I know i broke some rules of the AUP, You will not behave in an abusive and/or hateful manner, and will not harrass, threaten, nor attack anyone or any group. There will be no racially, sexually or physically abusive or inciteful language tolerated. Any abusive comments made by members will be removed by the Moderating staff and the user issued with a warning or banned, as deemed appropriate by the Moderating staff. No personal attacks on other members will be tolerated. If you question someone, it must be done in a reasonable and semi-friendly manner. Violating this rule will be grounds for suspension and/or permanent removal from the board.
i know i attacked him, you can warn/suspend/ban me for doing this, if you don't agree with me.

If mods have objections to your comments dennisw, they will have objections to all of ours. Fact of the matter is that you have been honest, and to be honest, and I apologise in advance to any mods who object, this NURBURGRINGKING appears to be a menace. The closest comparison that I can think of is that 🤬 coolFIAT or whatever his name was. His threads are spam, and his posts are laughable. Please GTP moderators, please find a way to bring this poster under control. My apologies again if I have personally stepped over the line with this humble request.

 

[Famine]

Please GTP moderators, please find a way to bring this poster under control.

He hasn't even visited the site in more than two days...

 

[PF]

@ senamic and dennis:
Oh man that's hilarious. Within a minute of submitting post#47 I PM'd a mod to report myself for AUP violation, and you've virtually done the same. I love a bit of civil disobedience!

EDIT: @Famine: To put it another way, he hasn't been on in over two days but still provokes a hostile response from the gtp posters who have proven their integrity and honesty over months or years. Also, this board has been slow lately, and some of us can't always check daily to see what's been happening.

 

[Skygrasper550]

He wasn't necessarily being sarcastic, if you interpret his comment as meaning that his thread produced a lot of discussion. And if you ask me, we don't hate this thread; in fact, I think I can honestly say that we like to attack arrogant and ignorant members and any stupid ideas they propose.

Touché, Austin, Touché

I will strongly second that

One vote from me in favour of the motion.

+1 here..,

A bit off topic, but...

When I showed the Holl01 'ring clip to our 10-yr old, he was oddly unimpressed. At about halfway through the lap he said: 'So Pete, how do you speed up a replay? I haven't seen that in the Options screen'. You should've seen his face when I convinced him it was real.

I can understand that, it was an abnormally fast lap.., again, hands down..,

He hasn't even visited the site in more than two days...

if he goes trash talking again, just shoot him down ...............

 

[Lucas]

He hasn't even visited the site in more than two days...

Precisely.

What he did was wrong, but you people are going a bit too far in giving him the attention he wants to get. Just leave him alone, if he continues like this, I'm pretty sure mods will take action on the subject... 👍

 

[dennisw]

if he goes trash talking again, just shoot him down ...............

i'll grab my gun...

 

[RaidoGT]

Is NURBURGRINGKING your bro or what?

No, we're not buddy-buddy. In fact, he's putting up his *own* performance a bit too much for my liking.

I don't understand your post.
Are you saying that the 4:40 lap was only moderately skillful?
Are you saying that holl01's lap would be easy to duplicate?
Are you saying that you could match it using race tires, but you don't because you like to race on N2 tires?

Boy, some people *really* need to brush up their reading skills over here. You're implying all kinds of things in my post which I didn't actually say. So don't do that, and things shall become clearer in your mind.
(And no, I'm in no way suggesting that I'd beat his time, or even get close. But there are other people out there, some grizzled sim vets.... who could.)

It would seem to me that if Holl01 has recorded the best time at Nurburgring, and if perhaps a million other GT4 drivers have tried to beat his time and could not. Then this would be the very definition of "skillful".

Like I *said* already: not saying it isn't a good lap *in GT4 terms*.
But this is only GT4 (and I know GTPlanet is Fanboi Central - despite that, let's keep things into perspective); there are a lot of real sims out there which require a lot, lot, LOT more skill to keep things on the virtual road.
Imagine doing the same Ring lap with *NO* traction control. *NO* downforce. *NO* soft racing tyres. *Then* you're talking level of difficulty which is even considerably higher.

Again, not saying that I personally would put up a top time there under such conditions, but there are people who can do that. We call them aliens.

I imagine you are referring to race cars at LeMans before the introduction of wing generated downforce and other ground effect developments.
I agree that these older race cars were deadly, and I think some were starting to reach 200 mph on the Mulsanne straight during the 1960's. I think I remember reading that even the first Ford GT40's were generating lift at speed.

Getting very close there... But imagine cars from the same era that were even a bit faster and certainly deadlier. And then simulations of those. They're out there.

Why won't you give perhaps the best driver on GT4 his due?

As the best driver in GT4? Yes, sure, fully willing to accept his is the best lap within the parameters of GT4, no problem. Thumbs up there.
But then it's only GT4, not a real sim.

 

[Open Addict]

....As the best driver in GT4? Yes, sure, fully willing to accept his is the best lap within the parameters of GT4, no problem. Thumbs up there.
But then it's only GT4, not a real sim.

I am pretty sure this is a forum to discuss GT4, not other "real sim" racing games.
If you can not discuss GT4 as GT4 and not compare it to other "real sim" racing games, please refrain from commenting. If you do wish to compare it to other "real sim" racing games, please use this forum for your discussion.



To others out there, 'Nurburgringking' may not have visited the site for a couple of days, because they are taking time out to refelect on their ignorance and pettyness. If and when they come back, lets see the quality of posting then.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

He wasn't necessarily being sarcastic, if you interpret his comment as meaning that his thread produced a lot of discussion. And if you ask me, we don't hate this thread; in fact, I think I can honestly say that we like to attack arrogant and ignorant members and any stupid ideas they propose.

Cheers!

 

[RaidoGT]

I am pretty sure this is a forum to discuss GT4, not other "real sim" racing games.

And since I was comparing other sim/race games to *GT4*, that remained entirely on topic, thank you very much.

"Ceterum censeo Microsoftem esse delendam", too.

 

[Open Addict]

And since I was comparing other sim/race games to *GT4*, that remained entirely on topic, thank you very much.

But this section of the forum is to discuss GT4, not a section to compare GT4 to other games.

"Ceterum censeo Microsoftem esse delendam", too.

Also i believe this is an AUP violation
No slang words that promote laziness, ie; “r”, “u”, “plz”, etc. will be tolerated. Decent grammar is expected, including proper usage of capital letters. Repeated violations will be grounds for suspension and/or permanent removal from the forums. All messages must be posted in English.

 

[RaidoGT]

But this section of the forum is to discuss GT4, not a section to compare GT4 to other games.

One cannot fully discuss one game without putting it in context - that follows logically. Comparisons will always be made, although I don't want to dwell on it too much (technically, GT4 would lose out too much anyway, no matter how much we may like it - or not).

Also i believe this is an AUP violation[/B]

Again me iz not purrticularly imprezzed mucho. I know how to zpel (generally) and will use creative language as I see fit. Also, I'm disappointed, nay, veritably SHOCKED I tell thee, on the increasedly far-fetched nature of your argument here ("oh boo sniff sniff, he used non-standard English boo hoo hoo!" ) Really now, I'm sure you could do better.