honda integra [vs] acura integra

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Originally posted by Josh
Turbo diesel dulie's have like 500 ft/lb of tq, and I've never seen one run better than a 17 at the strip. 275ft/lb of tq is good, but not in a heavy SUV. A Suburban probably has more than that.

S2000's 153ft/lb of tq vs the Blazer's 275ft/lb. I'd like to see you take that off the line, or anywhere in the 1/4.

Well that's because Turbo Diesle dulie's are made for pulling, duh. Why do you think they have the dual wheels on the back - for carrying extra weight. Plus, there are other reason's why some cars have less torque and can accelerate quicker. For one, the S2000 is lighter and it has more power anyway to outweight that lower torque...
 
Originally posted by Frustrated Palm
Actually, underdrive pullies add horsepower, and so do K&N filters...

Depending on how restrictive the stock airbox is, it will effect your horsepower rating on a minus/plus scale. Some cars are very restrictive (the Sentra SE-R Spec V and the Acura RSX-S come to mind) and gaining 10 hp from a simple "CAI" is believable.

On most cars, you'll actually get less than 1 horsepower more than with the stock filter.
 
Originally posted by Frustrated Palm
Well that's because Turbo Diesle dulie's are made for pulling, duh.
So is the Blazer.

Originally posted by Frustrated Palm
For one, the S2000 is lighter and it has more power anyway to outweight that lower torque...


Same for the GSR, Type R, and other FWD imports.
 
Originally posted by BlazinXtreme
I have a K&N Intake so its not a stock filter


Granted, but your other mods aren't important enough to make a really noticeable difference. The biggest difference you have right now is in the sound; your truck sounds faster & more powerful than it really is.
 
Another thing about torque: the amount of torque produced by the engine is important, no doubt. But gearing also plays a big role. If you have short gears (that is, numerically higher), you will put out more torque at the wheels. Most sporty cars are geared low so that they will make the most of their acceleration.
 
Originally posted by Josh
So is the Blazer.

Really? I dont see Blazer's pulling 4 horses on a long trailer which weigh a few tons each + trailer, nor do I see them pulling a trailer with two cars + parts, which is the main mission of the dulley, not the blazer...
 
Originally posted by PunkRock
Granted, but your other mods aren't important enough to make a really noticeable difference. The biggest difference you have right now is in the sound; your truck sounds faster & more powerful than it really is.

Underdrive pullies add some pretty good power. "It’s a known fact that underdrive pullies reduce the parasitic drag on engines, which frees up horsepower that can be delivered to the rear wheels."
 
Originally posted by Frustrated Palm
Underdrive pullies add some pretty good power. "It’s a known fact that underdrive pullies reduce the parasitic drag on engines, which frees up horsepower that can be delivered to the rear wheels."

http://www.teamscr.com/pulleys.htm

With various aftermarket manufacturers claiming up to 15 horsepower gains with their underdrive pulleys, we set out to the dyno to find out how much power WE could expect on our 1999 ITA-prepped Saturn twin-cam powerplant. The results might surprise you, but here they are.

Because there were no pulleys available at the time, we went to the extreme and actually REMOVED the accessory drive belt (only for one run, of course) to see what the impact would be to ZERO drag due to the accessory drive – sort of pulleys with infinitely small diameters. We figured that if we saw a big gain without a belt, that the pulley gains would be somewhere inbetween, right?

We fired up the dyno and low and behold, removing the belt netted a whopping 3 HP (and we’re rounding UP). That's it. The number was repeatable, and even correlated to data run earlier on the doomed BMW motors - they saw similar results in their application.

So, in light of the fact that 3 HP was completely without a belt, we estimated that the best we could do was to underdrive a few components by 20% - or a theoretical 0.6 HP gain (3 HP x 0.2). After that, it hardly seemed worth it to try to custom fabricate pulleys for less than a 1 HP gain.

Don't believe all that the manufacturers tell you.
 
Originally posted by Frustrated Palm
Really? I dont see Blazer's pulling 4 horses on a long trailer which weigh a few tons each + trailer, nor do I see them pulling a trailer with two cars + parts, which is the main mission of the dulley, not the blazer...

I didn't mean that it's only purpose is for pulling ****. I meant that it's meant for pulling stuff more than it is for racing, and being fast.

Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Take a 3,000 mile roadtrip through Oklahoma, Arkansas, Tennessee, etc. and tell me if you don't see it. I hardly ever see dulie's pulling stuff. I usually see them being driven by 16 year old kids who think it's cool to drive around in them covered in dirt.
 
Originally posted by Josh
I didn't mean that it's only purpose is for pulling ****. I meant that it's meant for pulling stuff more than it is for racing, and being fast.

Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Take a 3,000 mile roadtrip through Oklahoma, Arkansas, Tennessee, etc. and tell me if you don't see it. I hardly ever see dulie's pulling stuff. I usually see them being driven by 16 year old kids who think it's cool to drive around in them covered in dirt.

I actually do take roadtrips through those states. I lived in Illinois for 12 years. I saw them alot, and most of the time they were pulling something. Plus, on Saturday (will be back August 9th), I wil be going through those states, to visit realatives in Illinois and in Arkansas...
 
Originally posted by Frustrated Palm
That isnt a blazer now is it? Different vehicles different results. My uncle gained about 12 HP on his car with them on...


The same car that gained 20, or 40, hp with just a K&N drop-in?:lol:
 
Originally posted by Frustrated Palm
I actually do take roadtrips through those states. I lived in Illinois for 12 years. I saw them alot, and most of the time they were pulling something. Plus, on Saturday (will be back August 9th), I wil be going through those states, to visit realatives in Illinois and in Arkansas...


Well, tell me if you see any. With my luck, you won't.:P

I'll be going through those states as well on the 10th, or 11th of August, and again on the 14th, or 15th, of August. If I see any I'll take pictures, or something.
 
Originally posted by Frustrated Palm
No, that was my dad's charger which gained 18HP :lol:...

What's the current hp on the Charger? Any times for it?
 
Originally posted by Josh
Well, tell me if you see any. With my luck, you won't.:P

I'll be going through those states as well on the 10th, or 11th of August, and again on the 14th, or 15th, of August. If I see any I'll take pictures, or something.

Yeah, I will try to get a disposable one (new) to take pictures with. Where are you heading? I might be in Oklahoma near the beggining of August. Hey I got an idea. Lets take pictures of crap on our trip, funny stuff, nice cars, *under breath* me giving people the bird as we pass (you know how many jack*ss's there are on our roads :P...
 
well trust me I gained a lot of power. I can feel it.

I can tow my dads 20ft boat no problem. Take that thing down the express way at 75 mph.
 
Originally posted by Frustrated Palm
That isnt a blazer now is it? Different vehicles different results. My uncle gained about 12 HP on his car with them on...

[EDIT] forgot to quote

What kind of car is he driving? You won't get that kind of power in anything less than a pony car/muscle car.
 
Originally posted by Josh
What's the current hp on the Charger? Any times for it?

Well I think we are pushing 500HP ATM. He is looking at a Dynapack 5000 (a dyno). Its really neat. It isnt like a normal dyno. Instead of a floor installed dyno (or conventional one) it is just four boxes. You take off the drive wheels and put the dynapacks on them. Its not as easy as a normal dyno, but you are able to dyno 4 wheel drive vehicles and if you need extra space you can move them out of the way. He started looking at them after I showed him a picture of one that was in Eurotuner...
 
Originally posted by Frustrated Palm
No, that was my dad's charger which gained 18HP :lol:...

A Charger's no Blazer, is it? 18 hp on a Charger is believable, not on a V6 Blazer. Today's cars don't generate that much parasytic loss, with all those CNC machined pulleys coming out from the factory. They make good gains on older cars (pre 1990?)
 
Originally posted by Frustrated Palm
Yeah, I will try to get a disposable one (new) to take pictures with. Where are you heading? I might be in Oklahoma near the beggining of August. Hey I got an idea. Lets take pictures of crap on our trip, funny stuff, nice cars, *under breath* me giving people the bird as we pass (you know how many jack*ss's there are on our roads :P...


Back to Oklahoma, actually.

I'll take pictures of all of that stuff too.👍 I'll even bust out with some road rage, and try to take pictures of people all pissed off.:lol:
 
Originally posted by PunkRock
What kind of car is he driving? You won't get that kind of power in anything less than a pony car/muscle car.

I thought I told you this before? Maybe it was someone else. He put it on his GTSR. But that's probably why :lol:...
 
Originally posted by Frustrated Palm
... I showed him a picture of one that was in Eurotuner...

You read Eurotuner? Jeeze, no wonder you believe these kind of power claims! :P
 
Originally posted by PunkRock
You read Eurotuner? Jeeze, no wonder you believe these kind of power claims! :P


:lol:👍

Ricer math - gotta love it!
 
Originally posted by PunkRock
A Charger's no Blazer, is it? 18 hp on a Charger is believable, not on a V6 Blazer. Today's cars don't generate that much parasytic loss, with all those CNC machined pulleys coming out from the factory. They make good gains on older cars (pre 1990?)

Hey, I never said that Blazin gained 18HP with just a K&N...
 
Originally posted by Frustrated Palm
Hey, I never said that Blazin gained 18HP with just a K&N...

Yeah you did. You were like, "Hey guys, Blazer's gain 18hp from K&N's," and I was like, "Dude, no, you're retarted," and Punk was like, "God damn ricer."

You don't remember that? Oh, well, I do.:odd:
 
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