Honda Wieder on Nordschleife

  • Thread starter iWanchek
  • 53 comments
  • 2,079 views
Unbeatable? Can't be smooth?:rolleyes:
Just look at some of the TT leaderboards. There are people with DS3's going as fast as people with wheels. You just need to keep practicing.

Yes! By "smooth"I mean a clean, no wheel spin exit, more precise turn in a corner, better (overall) control of the car.

I'm not saying that with the controller the car is undriveble, NO,!!

For example here, on my Nurb lap, Wieder Raybirg car, all aids off except the skid recovery force, some
Examples where am I in disadvantage with my
Controller:

Start:
How can u have a clean start, without wheel spin?! Ok, if u accelerate with the right thumb stick, but, with button X, no way to have a clean start.
( except if u have ure TC set to 1/2, anyway u'll be in disadvantage on a start-Loosing time)

Control the throttle:
(No thumb stick)
How can I have a direct control of the throttle in a corner with tapping the button X, so I'm loosing time here b'koz I can't keep the constant speed through the corner
(Loosing time)

Steering:
How can u steer smooth and precise without nutching the left thumb stick, specially in a long (let's say) left hander?!
(Loosing time/speed buy nutching every half second the steering), not to mention that u r on a controller limited with turning angle, but on a wheel u have like 180/360 angle, so easier to manage some Corners!

Exit the corner:
In this situation you have to:
Control the throttle (typing X button-can't hold the constant speed-loosing time), steer by nutching the stick constancy (loosing time-can't hold smooth line with constant speed), and exit the corner, like Carusel, u can't precise control neither the turn line, speed and u can't by just pressing the X button and accelerate out of the corner with no spinning wheels, hitting hard the rev limiter, With at the end costs what?!
Speed-Time!

On this track, these situations at the end cost TIME! On a track with 20+km leinght at the end, controller can be in disadvantage in compare to wheel! Lose here a bit, loose there a bit....

I don't wanna be misunderstood, this topic, conversation is only for the Nurb track!!! I've mention few time the fact, on this track wheel is more better then the controller, but you have to know what u r doing and how to set up the car, and time can be dramatically better.

On other tracks the difference wheel-controller is identical, b'koz there's no big challange for the driver and for the car, so ther r equal there.

I'm just saying my opinion here and compare the wheel/controller and my experience driving both of those methods on the Nurb.

I'm not professional driver here, but I do understand my limits and the limits of the car so whatever u do, if a corner allows u to go through it with 245km/h (with best setup u have), and u try to go 246 and, everytime u try with 246 and u go off the track, don't bother, this term is called limit not lack of skill, easy right?

I'm driving the Wieder Raybirg, 647pp, all aids off, my setup, (not the pro one), best time 5:55.522, I attack every corner hard, aggressive, stay away from kerbs, otherwise u gonna roll over or u got wheel spin, sliding....not worth.
Improvements, maybe a second Max.
As I say to my fellow up there, hit me up on psn iWanchek-1, (iMessage ivanstrbac@gmail.com), so we can meet online, private room and drive our cars and compare us all. Car is Honda Weider on controller and there u go.....

I don't doubt in ure driving skills, u're knowledge, I'm willing to learn how can I improve myself so, hope accept this invitation (challange) and we can have some fun!

✌️
 
Well from everything you said. I do doubt yours. Quite a bit. I broke my Controller last night trying to mod it. (I was trying to make a homemade scuf controller) when I get a new one I will run some laps. I guarantee I will match any time posted while using a DS3. I'll record myself on my phone and directly send it to you as proof.
I should have the Controller today or tomorrow. What are the times being run in online lobbies you say are impossible? And your talking about the nurb lap leader boards open category I assume? Let me know. Im pretty eager to prove you wrong.

Hit me up on psn, online, private room...and we'll see my friend. I'd like to learn and see what am I soon wrong at the end. Otherwise, I'm just reading here word without any actions from you.

I have u my psn and my iMessage, ure turn.
 
Yes! By "smooth"I mean a clean, no wheel spin exit, more precise turn in a corner, better (overall) control of the car.

I'm not saying that with the controller the car is undriveble, NO,!!

For example here, on my Nurb lap, Wieder Raybirg car, all aids off except the skid recovery force, some
Examples where am I in disadvantage with my
Controller:

Start:
How can u have a clean start, without wheel spin?! Ok, if u accelerate with the right thumb stick, but, with button X, no way to have a clean start.
( except if u have ure TC set to 1/2, anyway u'll be in disadvantage on a start-Loosing time)

Control the throttle:
(No thumb stick)
How can I have a direct control of the throttle in a corner with tapping the button X, so I'm loosing time here b'koz I can't keep the constant speed through the corner
(Loosing time)

Steering:
How can u steer smooth and precise without nutching the left thumb stick, specially in a long (let's say) left hander?!
(Loosing time/speed buy nutching every half second the steering), not to mention that u r on a controller limited with turning angle, but on a wheel u have like 180/360 angle, so easier to manage some Corners!

Exit the corner:
In this situation you have to:
Control the throttle (typing X button-can't hold the constant speed-loosing time), steer by nutching the stick constancy (loosing time-can't hold smooth line with constant speed), and exit the corner, like Carusel, u can't precise control neither the turn line, speed and u can't by just pressing the X button and accelerate out of the corner with no spinning wheels, hitting hard the rev limiter, With at the end costs what?!
Speed-Time!

On this track, these situations at the end cost TIME! On a track with 20+km leinght at the end, controller can be in disadvantage in compare to wheel! Lose here a bit, loose there a bit....

I don't wanna be misunderstood, this topic, conversation is only for the Nurb track!!! I've mention few time the fact, on this track wheel is more better then the controller, but you have to know what u r doing and how to set up the car, and time can be dramatically better.

On other tracks the difference wheel-controller is identical, b'koz there's no big challange for the driver and for the car, so ther r equal there.

I'm just saying my opinion here and compare the wheel/controller and my experience driving both of those methods on the Nurb.

I'm not professional driver here, but I do understand my limits and the limits of the car so whatever u do, if a corner allows u to go through it with 245km/h (with best setup u have), and u try to go 246 and, everytime u try with 246 and u go off the track, don't bother, this term is called limit not lack of skill, easy right?

I'm driving the Wieder Raybirg, 647pp, all aids off, my setup, (not the pro one), best time 5:55.522, I attack every corner hard, aggressive, stay away from kerbs, otherwise u gonna roll over or u got wheel spin, sliding....not worth.
Improvements, maybe a second Max.
As I say to my fellow up there, hit me up on psn iWanchek-1, (iMessage ivanstrbac@gmail.com), so we can meet online, private room and drive our cars and compare us all. Car is Honda Weider on controller and there u go.....

I don't doubt in ure driving skills, u're knowledge, I'm willing to learn how can I improve myself so, hope accept this invitation (challange) and we can have some fun!

✌️
I don't need your email address.

You are just refusing to acknowledge that you can be smooth with a DS3. If you don't want to believe it. Fine.
 
I don't need your email address.

You are just refusing to acknowledge that you can be smooth with a DS3. If you don't want to believe it. Fine.

My invitation stays, ure words against ure actions is louder than anything.

Peace out bro!
 
Your using SRF.?End the conversation. I have used a wheel since 2003.I am going to tell you, plain and simple, people on DS3 are just as fast as wheels. Why are you arguing something that numerous people have told you as fact.
 
Last edited:
OK really? Bro I can do 6:35 with a NASCAR real grip no aides abs 1. On Nord.SRF ha ha your not that fast. Your car is sliding because your tune needs some work, or your wheel isn't as good as you think you are. Your kidding, telling Praiano his tune wasn't fast. Well he doesn't use SRF on his tunes. Perhaps that's your problem.
 
OK really? Bro I can do 6:35 with a NASCAR real grip no aides abs 1. On Nord.SRF ha ha your not that fast.

I didn't say that I'm fast didn't I?! Take ure controller, Honda Wieder Raybirg and to ure lap.

Target time 5:55.522!
 
I didn't say that I'm fast didn't I?! Take ure controller, Honda Wieder Raybirg and to ure lap.

Target time 5:55.522!
I don't use training wheels ( SRF) Did you read my post? I have used a wheel since 2003. Turn off your SRF and do some laps. Good luck.
 
Would you like to race your Honda against my NASCAR in a friendly no aides room? I will gladly start a room?
 
No aides abs 1 at Nordshliefe. I am at work, will be home at 3:00 pm EST. Say 3:30 pm. Would you prefer 24 Hr or Nordshliefe?
 
No aides abs 1 at Nordshliefe. I am at work, will be home at 3:00 pm EST. Say 3:30 pm. Would you prefer 24 Hr or Nordshliefe?

I don't use preiranos tunes. I'm in Germany, what's that in CET time zone!?

Will u hit me On iMessage so we can be precise or?

Edit/
It gonna be 22:30 in Germany, as I can see ure from canada witch is 6 hours behind, so....

U choose the track variation
 
Last edited:
He uses skid recovery force? And he still can't match meesbakers lap? This is a waste of time. And just so you know bud, SRF is worth at least 6 seconds around the ring. Meesbaker isn't using it. So consider yourself 15+ seconds behind his pace. Have a good day.
 
Last edited:
Sorry , I know this is old (ish) , but the best way to control a car on DS3 is by using L2 and R2 for accelerate & brake iWanchek . Plus if you have to use SRF on any car in GT , as previously mentioned , the problem is lack of talent or bad setup technique .

Additionally .... Had a quick run of the car at the 'Ring , just ABS 1 and tried it on real & low grip setting . She purrs like a pussycat around there at your PP . Handles like a dream . I recommend learning car set ups and taking the SRF stabilisers off them to enjoy the game more . Around here , players who claim to be fast but run aids like that are not well received .....
 
Sorry , I know this is old (ish) , but the best way to control a car on DS3 is by using L2 and R2 for accelerate & brake iWanchek . Plus if you have to use SRF on any car in GT , as previously mentioned , the problem is lack of talent or bad setup technique .

Additionally .... Had a quick run of the car at the 'Ring , just ABS 1 and tried it on real & low grip setting . She purrs like a pussycat around there at your PP . Handles like a dream . I recommend learning car set ups and taking the SRF stabilisers off them to enjoy the game more . Around here , players who claim to be fast but run aids like that are not well received .....
Don't bother with this wanchek guy. Thankfully he hasn't been on GTP since May 24th.
 
Skid recovery force?! Yes I do! Otherwise the car slides just to much....
SRF, tapping the throttle.
That's exactly why you'll never be as fast as a driver that knows how to drive. Stop being so pig-headed and get a grip of reality. Admit you don't have the skills required to post a competitive laptime.
Real drivers don't use SRF
Real drivers don't tap the throttle
Real drivers DO use skill to catch a slide not a driving aid
Real drivers using a DS3 DO know how to roll their thumb onto the X button to accelerate smoothly AND apply the same method when braking.
 
Back