Honda's Hydrogen Concept

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Honda to Begin Producing Next Generation FCX Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicle
Source: www.us.tnpv.com
Production Car Will Closely Resemble the FCX Concept Vehicle making its North American Debut at the North American International Auto Show

January 8, 2006 -- Detroit -- Signaling a rapid advancement in its fuel cell vehicle technology, American Honda Motor Co., Inc., today announced that it will begin production in Japan of its next generation FCX hydrogen powered fuel cell vehicle (FCV) in three to four years. The FCX Concept vehicle, unveiled just four months ago and now on display at the North American International Auto Show, boasts a fuel cell system that delivers more power in less space, in a unique, low-floor fuel cell platform. The premium fuel cell sedan offers the ultimate in clean-running performance, and represents Honda's vision of future mobility in which vehicles are less dependent on fossil fuels and produce no significant emissions.

Honda's FCX Concept defines a new stage in the evolution of fuel cell vehicle technology. The FCX Concept is designed with a low center of gravity and a full-sized cabin, offering the kind of driving pleasure and roomy interior previously unimaginable in a fuel cell vehicle. The FCX Concept is designed with a short front end to make the most of its unique low-floor platform, creating a comfortably large cabin. A tapered cabin profile and accentuated fender flare create an attractively dynamic look. The FCX Concept is an FCX that delivers style and excitement.

Using an innovative approach, the new, high-efficiency, compact V Flow fuel cell platform makes possible the lowest-floor platform in an FCV ever. Oxygen and hydrogen flow from the top to the bottom of the fuel cell stack (vertical gas flow) and the fuel cells are arranged vertically in the center tunnel (vertebral layout) for new, high-efficiency fuel cell packaging (volume efficiency).

Compact enough to fit neatly into the center tunnel but robust enough to put out 100kW of power, Honda's V Flow fuel cell stack offers space efficiency and high-energy output. The key to fuel cell performance is water management; Honda's new system takes full advantage of gravity to efficiently discharge water formed during electricity generation. This improves performance in sub-zero temperatures, further solving the problem of cold-weather startup that has been a key obstacle to the commercialization of FCV's. Now, with the V Flow fuel cell stack Honda has achieved ultra-low-temperature start-up performance on par with that of a gasoline engine. The FCX Concept drive train features three energy-efficient motors- one 80kW in the front and a 25kW space-efficient motor in each rear wheel, leaving ample room for a spacious cabin.

One barrier to FCV commercialization has been the need for high-capacity yet lightweight and compact hydrogen storage. Honda has now developed a new approach to expanding storage capacity, a newly developed hydrogen absorption material in the tank doubles capacity to 5 kg of hydrogen at 5000 PSI, extending cruising range to 350 miles, equivalent to that of a gasoline-engine car.

Approaching the vehicle, the driver is recognized by vehicle sensors and intelligent cameras unlocking the doors. The driving unit also automatically sets the steering wheel, accelerator pedal, and instrument panel to the optimal position for the driver. The instrument panel tilts up and down 45 degrees in response to vehicle speed to give either a sense of security or a relaxed feel. A system installed in the instrument panel senses the driver's line of sight shifting toward menu icons, and operates switches accordingly, allowing the driver hands-free operation of audio, AC and other systems.

As part of its effort to ensure the viability of a hydrogen-based society, Honda is developing the Home Energy Station (HES), a comprehensive system designed to meet residential energy needs by supplying electricity and heat in addition to hydrogen fuel for vehicles. Generating hydrogen from natural gas supplied for residential use, the HES system also offers consumers the convenience of refueling hydrogen-powered fuel cell vehicles at home. The system is equipped with fuel cells that generate and supply electricity to the home, and is configured to recover the heat produced during power generation for domestic water heating. In addition to reducing carbon dioxide emissions by some 40 percent, the HES system is expected to lower the total running cost of household electricity, gas and vehicle fuel by 50 percent.

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Blazin's Note: I like the way it looks and I'm very pro-hydrogen cars, a much better idea then hybrids I think.
 
Nice concept, good design (reminds me of some earlier Peugeot prototypes), now all we need a distribution network and a decent pricing...

I'm surprised that they use natural gas to make the hydrogen instead of using water though. I guess this is to bring down the costs in electricity, but a system free from fossil combustibles would have been nice.
 
I've been saying for years hydrogen is the way to go with fuel replacement and I'm surprised there hasn't been more strides.
 
Indeed. Another thing I'm curious about is how safe the thing is in case of an high speed crash, since you're basically sitting on what could be a very powerful bomb. :scared:
 
I'm sure its processed in some way or stored in some way to make it safe, I really don't know much about hydrogen power other then it seems to be the best of the alternative fuels.
 
Hydrogen storage mediums today are quite safe, all things considered.

What you should ask is: how safe is gas? I've seen a brand new Toyota burst into flames after going turtle. :lol:
 
That is a fine looking car. :drool: As you guys have already touched, as long as it won't blow up in a accident, I'm all for it.
 
Looks much better than the current Civic, yet the same. Just different proportioning.

Good idea, but I think it will take a while to be implemented, especially the support for them (fuelling, maintenence, etc.).
 
Too bad hydrogen does pretty much nothing to help the world's oil supply or air pollution problems. :indiff:

In order to get hydrogen from water, you need to use electrolysis, which requires electricity, which is received from your local, most-likely-coal-powered powerplant.

As for getting hydrogen from natural gas, well, that's rather self-explanitory. :lol:

I think hydrogen-powered cars are cool and all, and the idea of water-vapor emissions is great, but until a better method for producing the hydrogen is found, there's no point. :indiff:
 
Wolfe2x7
In order to get hydrogen from water, you need to use electrolysis, which requires electricity, which is received from your local, most-likely-coal-powered powerplant.

It's far from the case here. Anyways, it could be hydro-electricity, or coming from solar, wind or tidal power... heck, nuclear would be better than coal, or using natural gas as an energy source to produce hydrogen.
 
Carl.
It's far from the case here. Anyways, it could be hydro-electricity, or coming from solar, wind or tidal power... heck, nuclear would be better than coal, or using natural gas as an energy source to produce hydrogen.

Sure, but the energy efficiency of hydrogen production is still too low...it takes so much energy to create it that when all is said and done, a nation of hydrogen-powered vehicles will have consumed much more energy than an equivalent nation of oil-powered ones. Solar, wind, and tidal power plants aren't efficient enough to shoulder the load of hydrogen production for automobiles, and nuclear plants produce nuclear waste. :indiff:

My point is that scientists and engineers should be concentrating more on economizing the production of hydrogen than creating a viable hydrogen-powered car. Also, if I may say so myself, I'd prefer that hydrogen cars be powered by the good ol' internal combustion engine, like Mazda has done with the rotary, and BMW has done with the piston engine. Not a fuel cell like this Honda here. :)
 
Hmm... looks like the cars I was drawing as a kid as well as the old intepid long concept cars. I suppose I still like it though.
 
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