Horse Power Mistake

[TIGERSTORM]

I have discovered some horse power mistakes only in the premium cars

ok lets start

first the Lancer Evolution IX GSR'05 262 HP premium
how can that happend when the 04 model GSR has 332HP standard

many reviews shows the IX is faster than the VIII


ok another example

the Subaru Impreza WRX STI '05 272 HP premium
older model 04 311HP standard

3rd example

skyline gtr (r34) nur'02 326HP premium
skyline gtr (r34) N1'00 341 hp standerd

4th example
skyline gtr v-spec II (R32) '94 297 HP premium
skyline gtr (r32)'91 313 HP standerd

5th example
mitsubishi lancer evolution VI GSR T.M.E SCP'99 303hp premium
mitsubishi lancer evolution VI GSR T.M.E '00 326hp standerd

6th example
NSX Type R'02 282HP premium
NSX Type R'91 296HP standerd


so far all mistakes are in JDM cars

feel free to post more PD have fix this in the next patch

 

[NOS Waster]

Thank you for doing oil changes on all of those standards and NOT doing them on the premiums. Supplying inaccurate data really helps.

If you would have looked at those standards without oil changes, they have accurate horsepower.

 

[TIGERSTORM]

all the premiums had clean oil 2

how can the oil increased the standards but didnt increased the premiums

its a mistake its not the oil its a mistake in the horse power

 

[NOS Waster]

I'll say it. If you change the oil in the premium cars even when buying them new, they get the same HP increase.

You're REALLY going to tell me that the 2005 Premium WRX with 272 DID get an oil change? Yeah, right. I already know that the oil wasn't changed in it.

 

[TIGERSTORM]

its dosen't need an oil change its totaly new

how can the oil boost the power of the evo 8 if it has 262 hp as u said to 332HP is that a super oil or something hhhhhhh


evo 8 has 332HP and without the oil change 315-320 hp still more than the ix so u can admit that there is a mistake in the horse power

plus the evo 8 is LVL 8 from the beginning evo 9 is lvl 5

2005 wrx is lvl 6 the 04 model is lvl 8 now thats the prove h

 

[Firehuntah]

If you want to compare it does need an oil change. It's no standard oil, even new cars get HP increase if you change the oil. Also used cars may have a bit more HP cause they have been driven already (engine break-in). If you drive new cars for a while they gain some HP as well.

 

[TIGERSTORM]

i know but even when i will drive it for a while the hp will increase a littel

it can't boost it from lvl 6 to 8

5to 8

 

[Greycap]

its dosen't need an oil change its totaly new

Yes it does. Try for yourself.

how can the oil boost the power of the evo 8 if it has 262 hp as u said to 332HP is that a super oil or something hhhhhhh

Better oil gives more power. It does in real life and it goes in the game, it's been that way since GT3.

evo 8 has 332HP and without the oil change 315-320 hp still more than the ix so u can admit that there is a mistake in the horse power

Is that Evo IX power the one shown at the showroom or the one shown in your garage? Advertised power and real power can vary - it happens in real life too.

plus the evo 8 is LVL 8 from the beginning evo 9 is lvl 5

And this matters because? The old Alfa Romeo racer is level 11 despite having 169 bhp.

Also, drop the txt spk, begin using capital letters, commas and full stops. You'll be better off taking the advice from me than a moderator.

 

[NOS Waster]

its dosen't need an oil change its totaly new

how can the oil boost the power of the evo 8 if it has 262 hp as u said to 332HP is that a super oil or something hhhhhhh


evo 8 has 332HP and without the oil change 315-320 hp still more than the ix so u can admit that there is a mistake in the horse power

plus the evo 8 is LVL 8 from the beginning evo 9 is lvl 5

2005 wrx is lvl 6 the 04 model is lvl 8 now thats the prove h

1: So much horrible grammar. I can barely make out the post.

2: When changing from dirty street car oil to racing oil, you can normally expect a fairly good-size chunk of a HP increase. My Skyline R34s when i bought them used jumped from 276 HP to 330 HP with an oil change. So, yes. The oil CAN give that big of a HP jump.

3: When getting new cars from the premium dealership, they have STREET CAR oil in them. They STILL need the oil change JUST like the standards. Changing from CLEAN street oil to Racing oil will give similar, but slightly lower HP gains.

 

[TIGERSTORM]

ok i bought an evo ix it has 269 before the oil change after the oil change it has 283 hp still no match for the evo 8 332hp

i made the test in a few moments ago so thats the prove cheak by yourself


so now all u have to admit there is a mistake

 

[NOS Waster]

ok i bought an evo ix it has 269 before the oil change after the oil change it has 283 hp still no match for the evo 8 332hp

i made the test in a few moments ago so thats the prove cheak by yourself


so now all u have to admit there is a mistake

Actually, no I don't.

Which Evo 8 are you testing with?

There are multiple Evo 8's

There's a GSR and an MR GSR.

And even with only 283 HP, the Evo 9 is more than a match for the Evo 8. It's still faster

I'll give you a slight hint: The MR GSR should have MORE HP that the GSR.

 

[TIGERSTORM]

the evo viii GSR '04

 

[Famine]

so now all u have to admit there is a mistake

Not with the game, no.

With your posts, yes. Greycap told you and I can't imagine he's happy that you've ignored him. Here's the Acceptable Use Policy again:

You will not use “textspeak” (“r”, “u”, “plz”, etc.) in your messages. Decent grammar is expected at all times, including proper usage of capital letters.

Don't ignore this again.

 

[Highlandor]

ok i bought an evo ix it has 269 before the oil change after the oil change it has 283 hp still no match for the evo 8 332hp

i made the test in a few moments ago so thats the prove cheak by yourself


so now all u have to admit there is a mistake

There's plenty of mistakes in this game, both in general with the game, specifc area's of the game and when comparing the game to real life situations.

There are literally hundreds of threads that talk about and detail the many issues that people have with GT5.

No, it is not us that has to admit to there being mistakes, it is the people who made the game who need to hold their hands up and admit that mistakes were made.

Yes, you are right, there are issues with power between cars in the game and cars in real life, there are also issues with power on cars that you buy new and used (and the power changes from the description of the car in the dealer to when you look at it through ''settings'' in your garage), and there are also issues with power for the same car owned and tuned by different people.

None of this is ''new'', this has all been highlighted and discussed before.

 

[DEATHSARTHE]

I'll just say that GT has never had consistant HP ratings for any car... In GT5, I once read a car description (can't remember which one it was) where it quoted me 3 different horsepower ratings for the same car/model/trim and neither of which matched the HP ratings given in the garage or tuning view.

GT's quirky like that..

 

[Lupo]

One simple question: are the HP from the Car database indicated in BHP or metric HP (CV) ?

 

[charliec]

Maybe there are mistakes, but the "mistakes" you mention are, as you pointed out, all in JDM car. Japan had a "gentleman's agreement" to limit power output to 276HP, but the reality is that they underrated the power output for their cars, some times substantially. This means the power output could vary between model years, and a car "rated" at 276HP could put out in excess of 300HP easily.

Also, the standard models you're pointing to, as pointed out by others, have had their engines broken-in which will increase power.

I wouldn't assume that everything that doesn't match up with your expectations to be a mistake on PD's part.

 

[freedomweasel]

I'm not sure where you're getting the "real" numbers, but what I'm looking at right now seems about right with what's in the game.

Also take into account advertised vs actual horsepower, especially with Japanese cars which are often under-rated.

Thirdly, more HP =/= faster around a track. Even if the IX is faster than the VIII that doesn't mean the IX has more power.

 

[Famine]

One simple question: are the HP from the Car database indicated in BHP or metric HP (CV) ?

The database on this site will be in horsepower, which is an Imperial unit (ftlb/s). To convert to CV/PS/Ch, divide by 0.986.

However, the thread for asking this question is the car database thread, not this one.

 

[Lupo]

Famine,
Sorry for the wrong thread. Feel free to move the post(s) (I dont't know how)

 

[charliec]

Famine,
Sorry for the wrong thread. Feel free to move the post(s) (I dont't know how)

But... if you are indeed using Imperial HP (=British HP), the conversion to CV/PS (=metric HP) should be made multiplying by 1,0138698.
Isn't it ?

Multiplying by 1.013698 is the same as dividing by 0.986. 👍

 

[Watto]

..............Also, the standard models you're pointing to, as pointed out by others, have had their engines broken-in which will increase power..........

Exactly. See this thread. Engine break-in, wear, overhaul, and oil change

 

[Heyhuub]

After buying new premium cars you first need to run them in for about 300km before they get their stated power.