How are protests handled by iRacing?

[Patrocles]

I was protested against in iRacing. This is only the second time in 1.5 years. The first time was a month after I joined I cannot recall any of the details.

It sounds like this protest was received by iRacing and then dismissed? I was not provided any details on the protest was even about. iRAcing did not tell me any information of my accuser or the event, time, date, anything. Is this normal?

I sent an email back to ask for details but no reply at this time.

 

[left888]

9 times out of 10 it is ruled to just racing incidents. I have been protested twice in one and a half years or more now. Same situation, anything can be protested, so I would not worry about it. These people that make frivolous complaints are also being watched. BTW they will never reveal who sent it, but they do provide the session number and time and date. If you race a lot your top ten races will refresh but if you race once or twice a week it should still be in your top ten races.

 

[Coxis]

I've never been protested. Has anyone been protested and actually have action taken against them?

What do they tell you? what do they do?

 

[Mac K]

I've never been protested. Has anyone been protested and actually have action taken against them?

What do they tell you? what do they do?

You get banned for a time period they feel is necessary.. I've never had it happen to me, but I know a few people who have.

 

[Maxitsu]

I sent one protest. and recieved today a answer,

"The replay you sent does not show the person you are protesting in the race. It does not show any other driver with an internet connection. Please read the instruction below on filing protests."

Wel thats becaus he is NOT visible almost the entire races. Can't they see the most obvious thing?

 

[Mac K]

First off why would you protest someone for that?

 

[Maxitsu]

Try to drive safely against someone who is not visible and randomly appear on your screen. While making car contact to other cars. Its not a happy thing when he is near.

 

[fatkrakr]

Seems a bit harsh to protest someone for a bad internet connection.

 

[left888]

Well I've seen the blinkers who need to quit the race because they disappear right in front of you for 2 or 3 seconds. I have never protested anyone before but there always seems to be one blinker that causes problems, most times they quit the race for safety sakes. Sometimes they don't, I see nothing wrong with protesting the habitual blinker.

 

[Patrocles]

9 times out of 10 it is ruled to just racing incidents. I have been protested twice in one and a half years or more now. Same situation, anything can be protested, so I would not worry about it. These people that make frivolous complaints are also being watched. BTW they will never reveal who sent it, but they do provide the session number and time and date. If you race a lot your top ten races will refresh but if you race once or twice a week it should still be in your top ten races.

OK, thanks for the information. I cannot think of any "unpleasant incidents" that I have been involved in the past months so I will delete the email and not lose any sleep over it.

 

[Maxitsu]

Seems a bit harsh to protest someone for a bad internet connection.

its not just for a bad internet connection. I have seen diffrent guys whit a bad connection, I also blank 1 or 2 times in a race for a second.

But this guy blinks constantly. He even has some sort of "gt5 lag". Even though i posted him a message about it to try improve his connection he do not respond or do something about it. a while later you meet him again and destroys my race and that of others.

 

[Coxis]

What did the e-mail you received said exactly, Patrocles?

 

[ErikAndre71]

its not just for a bad internet connection. I have seen diffrent guys whit a bad connection, I also blank 1 or 2 times in a race for a second.

But this guy blinks constantly. He even has some sort of "gt5 lag". Even though i posted him a message about it to try improve his connection he do not respond or do something about it. a while later you meet him again and destroys my race and that of others.

And it doesn't actually need to be bad connection, because bad connection either blink shortly or disconnect you from the server. Although iRacing server allow for way to long timeouts. My old router actually restarted itself during a race for me in season 3. Everyone on track disappeared for more than 40 seconds and came back. I should have been disconnected for sure. I knew at the time I was more than 20 second behind someone and 30 second in front of someone so I kept driving and hoped I didn't disconnect. And I didn't.

But what's actually worse is having a bad computer, because even if a computer can handle driving around any track alone they can get problems when you see 20-30 cars on the track. And of course those blinkers don't mind changing the number of visible cars to something their computer can handle. They even put the number up, because your computer need to render the cars on the other side of the track!!!

This is a known problem, and if you see a blinker you can after the race look for the word discontinuity in the laps of the blinker (found on the result list)(this word also appears if you "tow" your car to pit)
If so. It was internet causing it, if not his computer is actually not suited for iRacing and he shouldn't be allowed on track. I saw a minimum requirement for the computer I needed before I joined. My computer wasn't up for the task so I stayed away. Others should do the same.

When people blink like I seen someone blink, it's not about racing anymore. It's a guess where he pops up game!

They should do something about it in my honest opinion, because it ruins the enjoyment for those who actually spent the money to have a computer handling the sim to simrace and not to play the guessing game.


My ISP have been upgrading their international lines the last couple of days causing everything outside Norway to drop out. And sometimes causing packet loss. I've been renovating my race room/office those days, but if I know I will have packet loss I wouldn't dare to race to be a blinker for others. That would be pure lack of respect for others in my honest opinion.


So I definitely support your protest against him.

I put those guys on my Studied list, to try stay away from them in the future races. I see them worse than people wrecking on, what looks like, purpose, because those you at least can try to avoid!

 

[left888]

I just don't understand the attitude of some of the blinkers, one race at Daytona last week I think it was. There was a blinker in the second row, I was right behind him. Soon as we gridded he started blinking. Someone about four rows back complained, then another person complained. I mentioned to the blinker that he was blinking as well. Do you think he would quit? No, he continued and never said a word. About the second lap someone hit him and the guy has the nerve to be pissed off at the guy that hit him.

iRacing needs to improve this aspect of the race, for me he ruined my race. I stayed back of him until he was hit and knocked off the track. By that time the two guys that were first and second almost started to lap the field. It's tough to pass those blinkers when you don't know where they are.

 

[Wilbur]

I just don't understand the attitude of some of the blinkers, one race at Daytona last week I think it was. There was a blinker in the second row, I was right behind him. Soon as we gridded he started blinking. Someone about four rows back complained, then another person complained. I mentioned to the blinker that he was blinking as well. Do you think he would quit? No, he continued and never said a word. About the second lap someone hit him and the guy has the nerve to be pissed off at the guy that hit him.

iRacing needs to improve this aspect of the race, for me he ruined my race. I stayed back of him until he was hit and knocked off the track. By that time the two guys that were first and second almost started to lap the field. It's tough to pass those blinkers when you don't know where they are.

I have blinked a lot lately but only once while in pack of cars and as soon as it was more than one blink I stayed high to let everyone by then pulled to apron. I wish people would atleast understand how hard it is to race a blinker too. It does seem people blink on grid but that's it too.

 

[ErikAndre71]

I have blinked a lot lately but only once while in pack of cars and as soon as it was more than one blink I stayed high to let everyone by then pulled to apron. I wish people would atleast understand how hard it is to race a blinker too. It does seem people blink on grid but that's it too.

There is maybe a easy fix to this, it could be that your ISP had some problems lately, but it also could be the last build.

They introduced dirt build up witch is a layer of graphics all over the windshield. Could be that this made your computer not handling seeing so many cars. So could actually help to lower the number of visible cars.
This layer isn't visible to you, but the layer is there to be rendered even if the windshield is clean.

This is why most people blink on the grid as you can see all the cars when your on the grid.

But I have no idea on what kind of specs you have on your computer so I could be dead wrong. But if I was a blinker I would have used more time investigate that, than racing.



But I saw a guy doing Road America and on lap 8 in Grand Am he blinked 58 times in one lap.. I repeat.. ONE LAP. And I counted it as a spectator, The longest blink I saw was for 2-3 seconds and obviously shorter blinks as well (or else he wouldn't really be there)

Other tings that could cause blinking is other programs using your computer resources. Virus or Spyware could cause your computer to work when you need it to focus on racing.
This program is a powerful tool: http://www.malwarebytes.org/

As a virus program you should run a free program, and not a fancy program that cost money. Lot's of them daily check if your licence is valid. Resources you could need when racing.

If you have a lot of the word "discontinuity" when checking your laps on the result list you should start with hard boot your Modem/router or what ever gives you internet. Unplug the device, keep it unplugged for 15 seconds and reconnect it. If this does help, but the problem get back within a week, ask for a new one from your ISP.

If it doesn't help you could call your ISP and ask what's the problem keeping a steady connection to the iRacing servers.

IP: 69.25.205.241-69.25.205.249 US servers

And if your on a wireless connection between you and your router you should plug it in with a wire, wireless and gaming is really a no no, I know it works, but that fact actually hurts me when saying it. Because in lots of cases it works like a turn signal..

And take this as a helpful post, no need to prove me wrong. I'm not the guy blinking

 

[Wilbur]

I might change number of cars since last I checked it was 20, and it just recently starting having issues since new build.

I've started watching my FPS too and it hangs around 30 most races right now. I am plugged into my modem, I would never do wireless for any gaming period.

This weekend I will check into it more.

 

[Maxitsu]

And it doesn't actually need to be bad connection, because bad connection either blink shortly or disconnect you from the server. Although iRacing server allow for way to long timeouts. My old router actually restarted itself during a race for me in season 3. Everyone on track disappeared for more than 40 seconds and came back. I should have been disconnected for sure. I knew at the time I was more than 20 second behind someone and 30 second in front of someone so I kept driving and hoped I didn't disconnect. And I didn't.

But what's actually worse is having a bad computer, because even if a computer can handle driving around any track alone they can get problems when you see 20-30 cars on the track. And of course those blinkers don't mind changing the number of visible cars to something their computer can handle. They even put the number up, because your computer need to render the cars on the other side of the track!!!

This is a known problem, and if you see a blinker you can after the race look for the word discontinuity in the laps of the blinker (found on the result list)(this word also appears if you "tow" your car to pit)
If so. It was internet causing it, if not his computer is actually not suited for iRacing and he shouldn't be allowed on track. I saw a minimum requirement for the computer I needed before I joined. My computer wasn't up for the task so I stayed away. Others should do the same.

When people blink like I seen someone blink, it's not about racing anymore. It's a guess where he pops up game!

They should do something about it in my honest opinion, because it ruins the enjoyment for those who actually spent the money to have a computer handling the sim to simrace and not to play the guessing game.


My ISP have been upgrading their international lines the last couple of days causing everything outside Norway to drop out. And sometimes causing packet loss. I've been renovating my race room/office those days, but if I know I will have packet loss I wouldn't dare to race to be a blinker for others. That would be pure lack of respect for others in my honest opinion.


So I definitely support your protest against him.

I put those guys on my Studied list, to try stay away from them in the future races. I see them worse than people wrecking on, what looks like, purpose, because those you at least can try to avoid!

Indeed. I watched the guy, sometimes he runs fine, sometimes not. I take a wild guess he switches from one pc to another.

I wouldn't try to drive if i know i am a blinker, not only respect comes to mind. But i never saw a blinker whit a clean race.